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7craps
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November 23rd, 2018 at 12:49:31 PM permalink
Quote: CrystalMath

You can clearly see on his picture of the machine that the symbols below his are Bar, Bar, 5 Bar. For the first two symbols, you can also see the bottom of the 5s above them.

ok.
nice observation and investigative work.

does this mean that ALL slot machine reels are exactly the same because this one is also exactly the same, by reels you found.
Did you find from the manufacture exactly how they should be?
Quote: CrystalMath

As for the second picture, you can tell from the reel strip layout that these are actually the Blue 7 Doubles

so ONE simple solution is to make all the symbols on the reels the same color (RED) and the machine will tell you what you won.
See how well that goes over with slot players.

simple computer reading of the colors in the photo for the 7
from the video

I got (1st try)
{Red, Green, Blue}
reel 1: 255,0,35
reel 2: 255,0,34
reel 3: 255,0,39

it is also well known that digital images can play tricks
as the image is created

no jury trial on Indian land
this is pure ripoff and a great way to set up all reel type slot machines, that are slowly dying.
that casino WILL lose money and customers over this.
slot players are NOT totally complete fools.
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November 23rd, 2018 at 12:52:18 PM permalink
Quote: CrystalMath

I found reel strips for this game, and it looks like the casino is right. I actually think he hit Orange 7 double, Orange 7 double, Red 7 double, based on the symbols that surround them. The correct pay for this is the 3 mixed 7s for $500 times 8 for the multipliers.

You can buy opaque reels or backlit reels for this game, and they can be fluorescent or led. The backlit strips fade over time also.

The strip layout, which is the same for all 3 reels, is:
Blue 7
5 Bar Double
Red 7
1 Bar Double
Orange 7
Blue 7 Double
1 Bar
Red 7 Double
5 Bar
Orange 7 Double
1 Bar

You can clearly see on his picture of the machine that the symbols below his are Bar, Bar, 5 Bar. For the first two symbols, you can also see the bottom of the 5s above them.

As for the second picture, you can tell from the reel strip layout that these are actually the Blue 7 Doubles because you can see the Orange 7s above and the 1 Bars below.

I feel sorry (slightly) for the guy, but he got the correct payout.





I don't know what you're looking at. I clearly see the bottom of 3 orange sevens and only plain single bars without the 5 below his 3 red sevens with double.
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November 23rd, 2018 at 1:05:41 PM permalink
Quote: MaxPen

I don't know what you're looking at. I clearly see the bottom of 3 orange sevens and only plain single bars without the 5 below his 3 red sevens with double.



This is for the second image, which is in this thread. I agree, they look red. But, when I look at the original reel strips, it is the Blue 7 Double which appears below the Orange 7 and above the 1 Bar.
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November 23rd, 2018 at 1:06:30 PM permalink
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I feel sorry (slightly) for the guy, but he got the correct payout.


Was his expectation reasonable based on what he actually saw displayed?
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November 23rd, 2018 at 1:15:59 PM permalink
Quote: 7craps

ok.
nice observation and investigative work.

does this mean that ALL slot machine reels are exactly the same because this one is also exactly the same, by reels you found.
Did you find from the manufacture exactly how they should be?



I canít guarantee they are all the same, but based on my experience testing IGT games at GLI, I would expect them to be the same. I also found several examples which were all identical. The ones I found were original strips that were for sale.

I think the casino should buy new reel strips so this doesnít happen again.

I think this man has a good argument, but we didnít see the reels in person and for all we know, he realized the potential problem and tried to take advantage of it.
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November 23rd, 2018 at 1:17:27 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Was his expectation reasonable based on what he actually saw displayed?



If the picture accurately displays what he saw, then it is reasonable to expect $50,000.
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November 23rd, 2018 at 1:21:58 PM permalink
Why only 50K if he was betting 2 credits. I swear I must be looking at a different picture. Can you post the pic of the 5 bar symbols at the bottom or link it? I'm only seeing one pic in this whole thread.
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November 23rd, 2018 at 1:25:16 PM permalink
You know, I do see a bit of blue in the triple 7's in the second image. I'm not so sure anymore....
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November 23rd, 2018 at 1:31:13 PM permalink
Quote: MaxPen

Why only 50K if he was betting 2 credits. I swear I must be looking at a different picture. Can you post the pic of the 5 bar symbols at the bottom or link it? I'm only seeing one pic in this whole thread.



This game only allows a 1 credit bet.

The other pic in this thread is not even the same machine, just another Double Gold with faded reel strips.
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November 23rd, 2018 at 3:44:17 PM permalink
That second image was confusing, but has nothing to do with the dispute. And that's also why all the speculation about what each payoff is can't be taken from the 2nd one either. This one says it's a single coin, not 2.

Here is another image taken from the video:


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