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TomG
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September 1st, 2017 at 10:22:15 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

Depending on the number of entries, the promotion, in effect, IS only for the higher tier players, they just don't say that.



Sounds perfectly fair.
onenickelmiracle
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September 1st, 2017 at 10:59:13 PM permalink
From the casino, I think there are about 150-200 executive producers and icons. Anyone could show up for this that want, but people showing up just for this, I doubt it.

They are no longer listing rules for the promotions on the website, just summaries. Maybe they're changing them, but for now, they're all gone, no PDFs to open. Just checked the link and it still works, but when I go directly to the website, nothing is there.
Last edited by: onenickelmiracle on Sep 2, 2017
Looks like sh!t just got imaginary!
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September 2nd, 2017 at 4:57:02 AM permalink
The thing I don't like about this is you will have people mad on the following Tuesday I guarantee there will be someone with 4 entries, get all 4 correct and nail the tie breaker. They will show up expecting to win and be told no someone had 5. They won't understand how that is possible.
DrawingDead
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September 2nd, 2017 at 7:40:14 AM permalink
And I guarantee that someone childish enough to be greatly troubled by this is already mad, in a lather about imagining they are unfairly screwed out of whatever they imagine should be theirs by pretty much everybody and everything everywhere, always, every day of their lives, always have been, and always will be. Here is the complete list of ALL possible potential cures for that problem: Grow up.
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September 2nd, 2017 at 7:59:17 AM permalink
Quote: MaxPen

Anyone who cries about the unfairness of this promotion probably supports a universal basic income.



I don't.
sabre
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September 2nd, 2017 at 8:12:28 AM permalink
Some people think it's fine for a business to bend/break/trample the truth in their advertising with impunity, as long as the truth is buried somewhere in some terms and conditions that 99.99% of the general public won't read.

In this case, the casino is telling people they can win something when the reality is, unless they have a top tier card, they can't win.
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September 2nd, 2017 at 11:11:11 AM permalink
Quote: GWAE

The thing I don't like about this is you will have people mad on the following Tuesday I guarantee there will be someone with 4 entries, get all 4 correct and nail the tie breaker. They will show up expecting to win and be told no someone had 5. They won't understand how that is possible.



Thank you, that is my entire point!
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TomG
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September 2nd, 2017 at 1:51:29 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

The thing I don't like about this is you will have people mad on the following Tuesday I guarantee there will be someone with 4 entries, get all 4 correct and nail the tie breaker. They will show up expecting to win and be told no someone had 5. They won't understand how that is possible.



That's a failure in marketing and customer service, not a lack of fairness. They were given the same opportunity to earn a fifth entry as everyone.
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September 2nd, 2017 at 3:52:30 PM permalink
Quote: TomG

That's a failure in marketing and customer service, not a lack of fairness. They were given the same opportunity to earn a fifth entry as everyone.



By attaining a higher tier status?

A few extremes:

A.) You recently moved to the area and did not previously live near a Hollywood, but are a regular gambler.

B.) You recently turned 21.

Granted, anyone who went to the casino between January 1st-June 30th (and could have went during every date during that time) did have the theoretical ability to earn the same status as the others for this promotion that they did not know was going to happen.

And, yes, marketing! Thank you!

The higher tiers get ALL entries free, the lower tiers can earn up to five entries (with one free) for every $500 or $1,000 coin-in per entry earned, not the current coin-in of $100/entry.

See that? More fair contest. More money for the casino. Good marketing.
Vultures can't be choosers.
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September 2nd, 2017 at 6:22:11 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

Most Promotions of this nature at least provide for some mechanism (other than tier status) by which...

Nope, not really, I sure don't think so. And I still can't fathom why anyone would think they must. I've done many similar things, some of which have been annual and semi-annual tournament promos that have been going on for more than a decade, and no, most have not done what you insist they should. Most of them I've seen and participated in are particularly structured to reward the volume of tracked play, generally reflected in some kind of tier status, along with every other damn thing in most casinos most of the time, from freeroll tourneys to room rates to buffet lines and parking spots to the price of a teacup in the gift shop. That's kinda the whole point of them. Duh.

Quote: Mission146

It's patently ridiculous.

The only thing I'm finding ridiculous is the silly search for a way to feel somehow aggrieved.

Here's the brief descriptive advertisement for it:

Quote: http://www.hollywoodmahoningvalley.com/promotions/choose-the-champs

CHOOSE THE CHAMPS

SEPTEMBER 5, 2017 - JANUARY 2, 2018

Swipe your Marquee Rewards card at a kiosk from Tuesday-Thursday afternoon at 5:00PM each week and select the pro football teams you think will win in the upcoming Thursday-Monday games.

From 10:00AM-9:00PM each Tuesday, beginning September 12, 2017, the 5 guests with the most correct picks will win their share of Free VLT Play! At the end of the promotional period, the top 10 overall promotion winners will win a Free VLT Play prize.The guest with the most correct picks will win a trip for two to the Tropicana Las Vegas for a Super Bowl Watch Party!

Click here for rules.

I suppose some degenerate attention span challenged folk are indeed chronically unable to bear the effort of ever looking at any sort of rules of any game they might feel an impulse to play, or probably for anything else they ever do in life. Oh well, boo hoo. Here they are, per the LINK right in the ad (which seems to be working fine for me):


Quote:

Choose the Champs - Official Rules
Promotion Period
1. Hollywood Gaming at Mahoning Valley Race Course will conduct a “Choose the Champs”
promotion beginning at 12:00pm on Tuesday, September 5, 2017 and ending at 9:00pm
Tuesday, January 2, 2018.
2. All times referred to throughout these rules are Eastern Standard Time (EST).
Eligibility
1. Must be a member of the Marquee Rewards ® club.
2. Must be 21 years of age or older to obtain a Marquee Rewards card.
3. No purchase necessary to receive a Marquee Rewards card.
4. A valid government issued photo ID is required to verify age and identity.
Entries & Prizes
1. All Marquee Rewards members will receive one (1) free entry per week of the promotional
period. Executive Producers and Icons will receive two (2) free entries per week of the
promotional period.
2. Additional entries can be earned each week during the promotional period for every one
hundred (100) tier points ($100 coin-in) earned through play, for up to three (3) additional
entries, giving guests a total of four (4) entries per week, or five (5) for Executive Producers
and Icons.
3. Guests swipe their Marquee Rewards card at a marketing kiosk to participate.
4. Guests can select the pro football teams they think will win in the upcoming week’s
Thursday through Monday games as well as the final score for the Monday game of the
upcoming week.
5. Guests make their winning picks using the touchscreen on the kiosk and collect a receipt
listing their weekly picks.
6. Picks can only be made Tuesday – Thursday afternoon at 5:00pm for the upcoming football
games.
7. Once submitted, all weekly picks are final and cannot be modified.
8. If a guest does not want to make specific picks they can use a ‘quick pick’ feature.
9. The Tuesday following the games (the week after guests make their picks and beginning
Tuesday, September 12, 2017), the 5 guests with the most correct picks will win Free VLT
Play. Guests with winning picks must return to the marketing kiosk each Tuesday between
10:00am and 9:00pm to claim their Free VLT Play prize. Guests who do not claim within this
time frame each Tuesday will forfeit their Free VLT Play prize, and the prize will not be
reissued.
10. Weekly winners can only be claimed the Tuesday following the games from 10:00am –
9:00pm. Winners older than one week will not be honored.
Page 1Choose the Champs - Official Rules
Weekly Winners
Most Weekly Wins
2 nd
3 rd
4 th
5 th
$750 Free VLT Play
$500 Free VLT Play
$350 Free VLT Play
$250 Free VLT Play
$100 Free VLT Play
11. If there is a tie, the score of the Monday game will act as the tie-breaker. The guest who is
closest to guessing the score correctly will be the winner. In the event that there is a tie with
the score of the Monday game, the guest who made their picks first will be the winner.
12. At the end of the promotional period, Tuesday, January 2, 2018, weekly winners as well as
overall promotion winners will be available at the kiosks from 10:00am – 9:00pm.
Promotion-Long Winner Standings
Most Weekly Wins Overall
2 nd
3 rd
4 th
5 th
th
6 – 10 th
Super Bowl Vegas Watch
Party at Trop Las Vegas (or
$1,000 cash)
$1,000 Free VLT Play
$750 Free VLT Play
$500 Free VLT Play
$300 Free VLT Play
$250 Free VLT Play
13. The guest with the mostly weekly wins over the 17-week promotional period will receive a
trip to the Tropicana in Las Vegas for a Super Bowl watch party. The trip will include airfare
for two and three nights at the Tropicana Las Vegas. Trip is to be taken February 2 – 5, 2018.
There is a cash option of one thousand dollars ($1,000).
14. Only one (1) Super Bowl Las Vegas Watch Party prize will be awarded during the
promotional period. In the event that there is more than one (1) guest in first place, the
Monday scores for each week will be reviewed and used as the tie breaker. The guest with
the most Monday score tie breaker wins will be awarded the Super Bowl Las Vegas Watch
Party prize. The guest who does not win will receive one thousand dollars ($1,000) in Free
VLT Play.
15. In order to be awarded the first place prize, the guest must have participated in all
seventeen (17) weeks of the promotional period.
16. Should a technical difficulty occur, the free play will be awarded to the winner’s account
within twenty-four (24) hours.
17. Free VLT Play credits will be valid for thirty (30) days and expire at 11:59:59 pm on the final
valid date.
18. Free VLT Play credits may be downloaded in partial increments as playable credits on any
VLT machine. Once downloaded, unused credits will expire within seventy-two (72) hours.
19. Free VLT Play prizes are not subject to any federal, state, and local taxes.
20. In the event of a kiosk or technical malfunction/outage, Hollywood Gaming at Mahoning
Valley Race Course reserves the right to temporarily discontinue the promotion until a
reasonable solution has been determined and implemented. Any games or prizes being
played or awarded at the time of the malfunction will be honored and resolved within
twenty-four (24) hours. Hollywood Gaming at Mahoning Valley Race Course is not
responsible for games not played due to the malfunction/outage and during the
malfunction/outage period, as well as any subsequent prizes from those games. Prizes not
redeemed during the malfunction period will be reviewed and awarded on a case-by-
case basis at management’s discretion.
General Rules
1. Participants agree to the use of his or her first name, city & state and photograph for
advertising and promotional purposes without charge or additional compensation.
2. Persons on the Hollywood Mahoning Exclusion List are not eligible to participate in any
promotional programs.
3. Employees of Hollywood Gaming at Mahoning Valley Race Course, its subsidiaries, affiliates,
or parent companies, and those family members who reside in the same household are not
eligible to participate in this promotion.
4. Hollywood Gaming at Mahoning Valley Race Course is not responsible for lost or stolen
cards, cash, coupons, or lost/misdirected mail.
5. Program benefits are not transferable between patrons. Determination will be made at the
sole discretion of Hollywood Gaming at Mahoning Valley Race Course.
6. Hollywood Gaming at Mahoning Valley Race Course may disqualify any person based
upon fraud, dishonesty, and violation of program rules or other misconduct.
7. Hollywood Gaming at Mahoning Valley Race Course reserves the right to refuse
complimentary redemptions if it is determined that the true cardholder is not present or that
coupons or a complimentary reward has been changed, altered or tampered with in any
way.
8. Use of the Marquee Rewards ® card indicates acceptance of these Official Rules.
9. Any dispute or situation not covered by the above rules will be resolved by Management in
a manner deemed by them to be the fairest outcome for all concerned. That decision shall
be final and binding. In addition, Hollywood Gaming at Mahoning Valley Race Course
reserves the right to change, modify or cancel this program at any time.
10. Any change or cancellation of the program must be approved by the Ohio Lottery
Commission prior to the change or cancellation.
11. Winners are responsible for all applicable federal, state, and local taxes, title and licensing
fees.

Other than the formatting after my copy & paste job, I'm not seeing anything particularly bent or broken about them. But if you really do somehow find a way to see that, or find looking at contest rules just too unsufferably burdensome, then don't go there for your free entries. Or do, for 17 weeks, and continue going out of your way to find opportunities to be outraged. Outraged! Unfair! Something must be done, at once, to keep me from being so oppressed and exploited! I might have 20% fewer free picks in a silly football contest than someone who has played there a lot more, oh my! Oh, the humanity! Somebody somewhere must save us from this horror, this awful crown of thorns foisted upon me after not reading about who gets less or more of the promo freeplay!
Nevermind.

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