krava
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January 16th, 2017 at 9:33:40 PM permalink
not sure how to send a post on someone elses thread. I went to horseshoe today. I played $150 worth of 50c 2 credit slots. The best line hit I had was 5x the bet. Most of the time out of $20 I put in I got maybe 3 hits out of that 20 total. I took the last $50 tried to make the money back. Went to a $1 triple double star machine. I put the tito in and didn't get $1 hit the entire time. $0 for the whole tito,. Not even a 5x different 7's. Never going back to Horseshoe again. I consider that damn tight when the best line hit on atleast 6 different machines is only a 5x bet. $5.00 for $1 bet is the best I got
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January 17th, 2017 at 12:09:00 AM permalink
Quote: krava

not sure how to send a post on someone elses thread. I went to horseshoe today. I played $150 worth of 50c 2 credit slots. The best line hit I had was 5x the bet. Most of the time out of $20 I put in I got maybe 3 hits out of that 20 total. I took the last $50 tried to make the money back. Went to a $1 triple double star machine. I put the tito in and didn't get $1 hit the entire time. $0 for the whole tito,. Not even a 5x different 7's. Never going back to Horseshoe again. I consider that damn tight when the best line hit on atleast 6 different machines is only a 5x bet. $5.00 for $1 bet is the best I got



Bad runs happen like that from time to time. I got a 32 spin bonus on Lotus Flower, got only about 25 times my bet. Now, that's an extremely bad bonus considering the fact that I had 32 spins! So, I empathize with you.
Guy "won" less than his bet and the slot machine had the audacity to tell him he got a big win! SMH! Also, the Nintendo cartridge is so much more important than the Nintendo console. Without the cartridge, the Nintendo console is just a useless box.
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January 17th, 2017 at 4:25:06 AM permalink
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I don't think slots are much tighter today compare to 2013.

Tighter machines boosted profits in 2013-2016 compared to 2009-2012, but people didn't play as much as 2006-2008. (UNLV reports)

December slot hold, slot revenue (millions) - Las Vegas Strip.
2016 8.06% 258
2015 7.09% 255
2014 6.51% 237
2013 7.06% 255
2012 5.99% 219
2011 5.82% 211
2010 5.66% 198
2009 6.48% 221
2008 5.91% 228
2007 5.93% 266
2006 5.63% 252

December slot hold, slot revenue (millions) - State
2016 6.94% 604
2015 6.19% 565
2014 6.15% 559
2013 6.20% 558
2012 5.31% 492
2011 5.19% 481
2010 5.27% 474
2009 5.72% 509
2008 5.81% 574
2007 5.57% 646
2006 5.17% 610

http://gaming.unlv.edu/reports/6_month_NV.pdf
http://gaming.unlv.edu/reports/NV_dec.pdf

http://gaming.unlv.edu/reports.html
OnceDear
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January 17th, 2017 at 4:49:35 AM permalink
Quote: Mobcasinos

I don't think slots are much tighter today compare to 2013. What I think is bet is increasing year after years.


Not that I do slots, but surely the slots are getting FASTER per game and expecting more coin input per game. Thus more profit to the casino per unit of time without needing to alter the house edge
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January 17th, 2017 at 7:58:29 AM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

Not that I do slots, but surely the slots are getting FASTER per game and expecting more coin input per game. Thus more profit to the casino per unit of time without needing to alter the house edge



Oddly enough, it's my impression that slots are much faster due to multiline, commonly 30 lines or more required on penny slots, but much slower overall due to very extended bonus rounds (in time). The bonus rounds are worth a lot less than they used to be, but they give you quite a show. Some go 5-7 minutes or more on a good bonus.
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fastXXXeddie
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January 17th, 2017 at 9:02:58 AM permalink
I hate that most penny slots now require a minimum bet to get a bonus. Loved in past to pay 9 lines at 1 cent each and play a long bonus. Great way to kill time waiting for poker table to open. Once hit for $100 on a straight 9 cent bet. People kept saying I should have been betting more. YEAH, and I would have been broke 2 hours ago.
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January 17th, 2017 at 11:31:55 AM permalink
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Tighter machines boosted profits in 2013-2016 compared to 2009-2012, but people didn't play as much as 2006-2008. (UNLV reports)



Yup. It's amazing how one tiny little Great Recession will decrease gaming revenue. But, the data sure seem to suggest NV has tighter slot machines now than previously.
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January 17th, 2017 at 2:21:50 PM permalink
Someone or a few people pointed out something like "The guy who said that got a lot of money playing slots in 2013 and that same $20 was gone in just minutes in 2016 in same slots probably was playing them at .09 in 2013 and the casino had changed them to the .50 minimum, meaning he would have over at least 200 spins at minimum at .09 a bet vs only 40 spins at minimum on a .50 bet." They did have an excellent point.
Guy "won" less than his bet and the slot machine had the audacity to tell him he got a big win! SMH! Also, the Nintendo cartridge is so much more important than the Nintendo console. Without the cartridge, the Nintendo console is just a useless box.
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January 19th, 2017 at 11:37:49 AM permalink
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I hate that most penny slots now require a minimum bet to get a bonus. Loved in past to pay 9 lines at 1 cent each and play a long bonus. Great way to kill time waiting for poker table to open. Once hit for $100 on a straight 9 cent bet. People kept saying I should have been betting more. YEAH, and I would have been broke 2 hours ago.

Saw a guy hit an $1,800+ jackpot on a $0.05 bet (in 2016). He was down to his last dollar, and betting $0.05 at a time.

On the game he played, the bonuses have 30 lines, even if you bet 1 line.
IF he had bet $0.50 (1 line x 10 units, $0.05 machine), he might have gotten $18,000+.
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January 19th, 2017 at 11:56:12 AM permalink
Quote: mamat

Saw a guy hit an $1,800+ jackpot on a $0.05 bet (in 2016). He was down to his last dollar, and betting $0.05 at a time.

On the game he played, the bonuses have 30 lines, even if you bet 1 line.
IF he had bet $0.50 (1 line x 10 units, $0.05 machine), he might have gotten $18,000+.



Now that is a "one nickel miracle "!

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