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DJTeddyBear
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November 3rd, 2016 at 10:33:42 AM permalink
I doubt that it matters much, but the machine was a VLT - video lottery terminal. Looks like an ordinary slot machine, but it ain't.
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rxwine
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November 3rd, 2016 at 1:15:30 PM permalink
Concerning malfunctions, suppose somehow the machine underpaid you a legal win.

Since a malfunction voids a win even a win below what you should have gotten, couldn't they just take back the whole win because it's a malfunction?

My point is, in such a case, the casino would probably give the player the legal amount even with such a malfunction. But the casino being able to decide which malfunction they are going to act on seems bogus.

In other words, if you won $500 but only got a $100, they probably would make up the difference. But of course, they don't want to honor every malfunction. But that makes it arbitrary to me, not law.
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November 3rd, 2016 at 1:45:13 PM permalink
If there were a glitch at your bank and you deposited $10 and the bank accidently printed out that you made a $10,000 deposit, would you be entitled to the extra $9,990? Of course not.

The story of this woman's experience is poorly written. What symbols were on the pay line and what would the correct payoff be? That is the salient question. Everything else is just trying to get something for nothing. And the fact that the lady was unemployed is also irrelevant. But to be unemployed and playing slots machines in a casino?
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November 3rd, 2016 at 1:55:46 PM permalink
It was just featured on Inside Edition.
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November 3rd, 2016 at 2:37:03 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

What will likely happen, if she is smart, is she will get an attorney to argue the machine didn't "malfunction" but did exactly what the programmers told it to do. It will get settled out of court for something more than a steak dinner. Around a million would be my guess.


If that were the case, the liability would be on the manufacturer of the machine or the regulator that approved it, both of which represented the max payout as $6500 to the casino when the machine was sold.
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November 3rd, 2016 at 2:58:17 PM permalink
The machine had a disclaimer posted on it that says "Malfunction Voids All Pays and Plays." And so they think that protects them fully against an incident such as this. But I don't think so. Before going into surgery your Doctor will insist that you sign a long document that he basically hopes will protect him against legal action if something goes wrong in surgery. But will it protect him if he makes a mistake that causes a patient's death, suffering or infection or illness? No way Jose.
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November 3rd, 2016 at 6:03:58 PM permalink
Quote: Greasyjohn

If there were a glitch at your bank and you deposited $10 and the bank accidently printed out that you made a $10,000 deposit, would you be entitled to the extra $9,990? Of course not.



If someone make a deposit at a bank and walk away with a receipt from the bank that says they deposited $10,000, it really should take extraordinary evidence for the bank to be able to drop the deposited amount down to $10.

Whilst most people here look at the figure of $42M and acknowledge it was almost certainly a glitch/bug, the burden really should be on the casino to prove it was a malfunction.

The burden of trying to prove anything technical to an audience of disinterested laymen is always difficult so I am guessing the casino will end up trying to settle.

That said IANAL so who knows what will happen.
MrV
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November 3rd, 2016 at 6:40:56 PM permalink
IAAL.

No way in hell will the aggrieved slot player get a fourty-two million dollar award via trial or abitration.

As for your bank example: aren't all of the moves of tellers recorded on video and preserved for awhile by the bank?

If so, that would provide clear and convincing proof: either it shows a customer depositing that amount, or it doesn't.
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November 3rd, 2016 at 7:44:14 PM permalink
I'd lay 10-1 its not anywhere even remotely close too e million-if bet max is100k and that's a stretch
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November 3rd, 2016 at 8:38:24 PM permalink
I would think the casino just has to show the given value of all the symbol wins for that spin at that bet amount (id lay money she wasnt betting max) and then show that the winning amount doesnt add up to 42 million. And bang u have an obvious argument for a jury why its a malfunction

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