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Boz
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Ibeatyouraces
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July 9th, 2015 at 11:01:55 AM permalink
I'm still waiting for a casino to advertise the real truth about what they think their business is supposed to be:

"We're in the 'entertainment' business. We hate winners and kick out consistent winners or AP's. Only losers are welcome!"
rxwine
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July 9th, 2015 at 12:24:35 PM permalink
Slots are the games where you can hide the true cost from the customer. That would be good in any business if you could still count on customers buying your product. Who wouldn't want that advantage if you could get away with it?
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July 9th, 2015 at 12:53:28 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

My question would be, have they actually loosened their slots? How many slots must one loosen before someone can make a claim like this?

In reno, I don't know. In vegas, recall those two "s" casinos I always get mixed up.... silverton? theone with the nice large rooms and ultra watchful floor persons at blackjack...

He called in a friendly and photogenic journalist and announced his loosened slots. ten percent of his slots had been loosened but no way to tell which ten percent. Made headlines about loosened slot. did not make headlines about deception.
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July 9th, 2015 at 2:14:35 PM permalink
I don't personally have a problem with the advertisement as long as the, "We've loosened out slots," part is true. Even then, that doesn't say anything meaningful. If you loosen the return on one slot machine, but leave everything else on the floor the same, then technically, you have loosened the slots an infinitesimal percentage, but loosened them nonetheless.

The average monthly payout not stating the amount of coin-in that resulted in that payout is largely irrelevant, provided the actual statement as to the average monthly payout is true. Many casinos in my area advertise how much they have paid out in jackpots over x period of time, while one states the payout daily, monthly and yearly on their signage within the casino.

In any event, anyone with reading comprehension should be able to note that the signage does not make a meaningful statement as to actual quantifiable odds or return based on coin-in.

Ultimately, I do not personally believe that there is anything misleading about the advertisements.
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AxelWolf
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July 9th, 2015 at 3:58:47 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

I don't personally have a problem with the advertisement as long as the, "We've loosened out slots," part is true. Even then, that doesn't say anything meaningful. If you loosen the return on one slot machine, but leave everything else on the floor the same, then technically, you have loosened the slots an infinitesimal percentage, but loosened them nonetheless.

The average monthly payout not stating the amount of coin-in that resulted in that payout is largely irrelevant, provided the actual statement as to the average monthly payout is true. Many casinos in my area advertise how much they have paid out in jackpots over x period of time, while one states the payout daily, monthly and yearly on their signage within the casino.

In any event, anyone with reading comprehension should be able to note that the signage does not make a meaningful statement as to actual quantifiable odds or return based on coin-in.

Ultimately, I do not personally believe that there is anything misleading about the advertisements.

in that case its just telling you facts. Mabey, it depends on what they claim is a jackpot($1 JP). I thought it said we payed out x amount thia month period are you sure it says in jackpots.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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July 9th, 2015 at 4:19:55 PM permalink
Quote: Romes

I agree with those that previously stated... I hate these signs because they're 100% misleading. As someone else pointed out, if I put $1 in, bet it, and "win" 50 cents back, they count that as "paying out" 50 cents, which is NOT the case. I LOST money, but they're claiming they're paying out. It's a misrepresentation of the data, and I hate scummy people whom try to use good data the wrong way. i.e. Every casino in existence.



Golden Nugget AC has (or use to have) scrolling text at the bottom of their video info boards that includes an update of how much $$ their machines paid out that day... Obviously one would assume it works the same way.
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July 10th, 2015 at 12:52:53 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

in that case its just telling you facts. Mabey, it depends on what they claim is a jackpot($1 JP). I thought it said we payed out x amount thia month period are you sure it says in jackpots.



I'll take a harder look at it next time...
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July 10th, 2015 at 12:43:17 PM permalink
Quote: AcesAndEights

Glad to see you back on the boards, IBYA.

Well, where have YOU been?!
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Ibeatyouraces
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July 10th, 2015 at 1:09:34 PM permalink
Quote: teddys

Well, where have YOU been?!


Yeah, he's a little late to the party.

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