Canyonero
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February 11th, 2015 at 12:06:41 PM permalink
Found a Zuma machine with green jackpot at 46.80 last night (must hit by 50). I decided to go for it. The increase was extremely slow. It took $500 coin in for it to reach 48.22 at which point it hit. In the meantime I had filled the blue jackpot from $9 to $16.50 and also collected.
If assumed representative, at 85% return on the base game, this was still a losing proposition even with the blue jackpot included. Got lucky on the spins though and left $70 up.

So beware, the jackpot meters may look juicier than they are...
AxelWolf
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February 11th, 2015 at 12:54:08 PM permalink
Quote: Canyonero

Found a Zuma machine with green jackpot at 46.80 last night (must hit by 50). I decided to go for it. The increase was extremely slow. It took $500 coin in for it to reach 48.22 at which point it hit. In the meantime I had filled the blue jackpot from $9 to $16.50 and also collected.
If assumed representative, at 85% return on the base game, this was still a losing proposition even with the blue jackpot included. Got lucky on the spins though and left $70 up.

So beware, the jackpot meters may look juicier than they are...

That's why whoever came up with the new must hits were smart. The look juicy but people just didn't do the math. The see high numbers and get trapped. They think how bad could it possibly be, ill get back my money soon.

Zuma slot was a good concept they should have made it more interactive and actually let you shoot the balls yourself.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
Boz
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February 11th, 2015 at 2:09:39 PM permalink
It's almost funny watching people play them, pulling more and more money out thinking they have to hit without even having the slightest idea how slow the meter is moving.

And then they get more money and feel like the won the Super Bowl, getting $50 after losing $1500. They showed that machine who was boss!!
BTLWI
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February 16th, 2015 at 11:16:19 AM permalink
If you bet max the little bubbles increase those prizes at a higher proportion. For example a min-bet $.50 might increase the green by $.06 and a max bet of $2.50 might increase it by $.45.

I'd never get excited about a $46 green and would check back in 45 minutes to see if someone abandoned it close to $48.
sabre
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February 16th, 2015 at 11:23:29 AM permalink
Do these progressives advance by coin in, win, or some other metric?
AxelWolf
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February 22nd, 2015 at 1:26:38 PM permalink
Quote: sabre

Do these progressives advance by coin in, win, or some other metric?

It's usually coin in or coin out. Occasionally they have various other ways money is added.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
JohnnyComet
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February 24th, 2015 at 3:03:47 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf



Zuma slot was a good concept they should have made it more interactive and actually let you shoot the balls yourself.



You can in one of the bonuses if you want but it's optional. Most slot players aren't that interested in skill anyway and the amount of RTP allowed for skill features is quite low.
AxelWolf
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February 24th, 2015 at 3:27:08 PM permalink
Quote: JohnnyComet

Most slot players aren't that interested in skill anyway.

We don't know that, it has not been tested enough, obviously it depends on the skill level needed. I wasn't necessarily talking about skill anyways but something more interactive. If they could design a slot that's mostly non skill but added a skill aspect on top of that I believe it would do well.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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