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vert1276
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May 22nd, 2011 at 2:18:42 AM permalink
So im playin no limit tonight at my local casino. The blinds are 5,10 and the max buy in is 1k. The bad beat is just over 94k.

Ok so the hand is dealt. The player under the gun makes it $40(he as pocket A's) then everyone folds up to the cut off. I fold in 9,7 off. The cut off calls (she has pocket 10's). Then the big blind raise to 100 flat. The guy with pocket A's makes it 225 to go. Pocket 10's fold pocket 6's CALLS LOL. Flop comes A,10,10 Pocket 6's goes all in for last 100. Pocket A's calls of course. Cards a flipped up. Since there is no more action the girl who folded is super mad and says "WFT you re-raised it with pocket 6's I folded pocket 10"s, If you just would have called I would have felted pocket A's". She was really upset, but I was just thinking to myself "thats poker" lol.

Of course I was about to be really upset too LOL....because it ends up coming runner runner Jacks LMAO!!!! So it would have been Aces full of Jacks beat by Quad 10's LOL And like I said the Bad Beat was at 94K!!!!!!!!!!! The guy with pocket 6's cost me 4k. A guess it could have been worse it cost the guy with pocket A's 47k!!!!! LOL oh well I guess thats poker!!!
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May 22nd, 2011 at 4:53:20 AM permalink
If he had ... I would ... it could ... thats poker, darling.
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May 22nd, 2011 at 4:58:46 AM permalink
Yeah, that's sickkkk..
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May 22nd, 2011 at 5:07:50 AM permalink
As the self-appointed judge of all poker stories, I award you 2 sympathy points out of a possible 10. If no one ever bet, bad beats would happen a lot more often...
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May 22nd, 2011 at 7:39:17 AM permalink
And yet another example of why the Bad Beat is bad for poker.
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May 22nd, 2011 at 8:54:05 AM permalink
Ok, bear with me here, I'm a not so experienced hold'em player. I'm not seeing how this cost you any money, let alone $4k. If I'm reading this correctly, your cards would have been (9,7),A,10,10,J,J. That's two pair. You couldn't have gotten a flush because you said your hole cards were off-suit.

So I can see you the Quad 10's would have beat the A's full of J's, but that just costs the gal with the pocket Aces the bad beat jackpot. How would this have gotten you anything?

May I'm missing something about the bad beat jackpot here. Sorry if this is obvious, but i've only playing online or at a friend's hold'em house party. Never in a real casino game. Can you help me understand this?
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May 22nd, 2011 at 9:03:44 AM permalink
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May 22nd, 2011 at 9:20:54 AM permalink
Quote: gofaster87

Bad beat jackpots are shared among the whole table. Usually the winning hand gets 25%, the loser gets 50% and the rest is split among the rest of the players.



As far as I understand Bad beat, I thought the losing hand had to be the highest hand on the turn, and had to be beaten with the only out on the river.
This would not be the case here, Quads of 10 still beats Aces full of Tens (on the turn).
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May 22nd, 2011 at 9:24:59 AM permalink
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DJTeddyBear
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May 22nd, 2011 at 10:23:21 AM permalink
Quote: MangoJ

As far as I understand Bad beat, I thought the losing hand had to be the highest hand on the turn, and had to be beaten with the only out on the river.

Never heard that rule before. And I've read the rules at a couple casinos, never saw that kind of requirement. Although the name "Bad bead" implies otherwise, there is no need for the loser to have ever been in the lead.

In fact, I was at the next table one time where the bad beat was delivered on the flop: The flop was a three card straight flush. The winner had the top end, another player got a bad beat with the bottom end. Turn and river were insignificant.
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May 22nd, 2011 at 10:23:41 AM permalink
Quote: gofaster87

Bad beat jackpots are shared among the whole table. Usually the winning hand gets 25%, the loser gets 50% and the rest is split among the rest of the players.



Ok, I get it now. Thanks!
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May 22nd, 2011 at 11:37:35 AM permalink
Quote: MangoJ

As far as I understand Bad beat, I thought the losing hand had to be the highest hand on the turn, and had to be beaten with the only out on the river.
This would not be the case here, Quads of 10 still beats Aces full of Tens (on the turn).



Like DJ said in another post. I have never seen that rule before. Any place I have ever seen the bad beat it is always been Aces full of jacks(some places 10"s) or better beat by quads. And Every casinos bad beat rules I have seen always states that that if the loser is Aces full they must hold pocket aces. Although years ago there was a place by me that had Bad beat rules that stated that only both cards had to play so you could qualify for a bad beat with AK or AQ or AJ off suit.
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May 22nd, 2011 at 12:51:02 PM permalink
I see, thanks. I'm not playing poker so maybe I misunderstood the rules of bad beat jackpot.
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May 22nd, 2011 at 1:46:23 PM permalink
IF X = 8, WHAT IS Y ?

Of course you need more information. That being said the player who played that hand properly may have been the pocket 6's.
For sure the player who cost you $4k was the pocket 10's. A raise with pockets 6's in your scanerio may well have been a good move in hope AA would fold having to call with a small pair or AK AQ with a tight player behind him who had called his $40, 4 times big blind, bet from early position. AA might well have folded his hand leaving 10/10 to decide whether to call a raise from 66.
Since she did not raise you can assume she does not have AA or KK ? As for the reraise, what is AA opinion of 66 table image? Could he be trying a resteal from 66, fairly confident that 10/10 will fold?
While calling the $255 with 66 may be borderline, betting your last $100 on the flop is not. I mean even if you put AA on a pair larger than 66, there are two other 6's in the deck and why not put your last $100 in to a pot that will be $910 when AA calls.

If mad at anybody, focus on 10,10 ? She thinks 10/10 is only good for a call against AA betting 4 times big blind from early position ? DUH !!! Most players will agree that is a fold or raise position. She has no one but HERSELF to blame. If she had reraised it's possible 66 would have folded. Unless he was a maniac in which case she should not have folded after AA reraised 66.

Depending on how AA and 66 were viewed by her, she either made 1 mistake or 2. She only has to look in the mirror to see who she should have been rating at ???????

But then hindsight is always 20/20
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