Delaing with a card cheat when you're unarmed

Oh, wait, you will need arms. Or talent with your feet.



"Dealing" that is

Interesting. I’m a card mechanic. I want to do these experiments myself.

BTW, it is “dealing” not “delaing.”

Quote: aceside

Interesting. I’m a card mechanic. I want to do these experiments myself.

BTW, it is “dealing” not “delaing.”
link to original post

Caught a Hanger Sarge!

we need to get this Smith guy going with controlling dice!

or maybe he beat us to it and that's just something he doesn't talk about!

Quote: odiousgambit

we need to get this Smith guy going with controlling dice!

or maybe he beat us to it and that's just something he doesn't talk about!
link to original post

If he can cut a cucumber in half by throwing dice...

Quote: Dieter

Quote: odiousgambit

we need to get this Smith guy going with controlling dice!

or maybe he beat us to it and that's just something he doesn't talk about!
link to original post

If he can cut a cucumber in half by throwing dice...
link to original post

Dieter,

Not a cucumber, but I can cut a bankroll in half by throwing dice ;-)

Dog Hand

There are books published on both topics.

1. Cards As Weapons, Ricky Jay, Published by Warner, 1977.
2. Wong on Dice, Stanford Wong, ‎Pi Yee Pr, 2005.

I’d like to have an electronic copy of these. If you have one, please email me a copy.

The description from Wong on Dice: Stanford Wong applies math and logic to tossing the dice to get an advantage over casinos at craps. Included are all the details of setting the dice, tossing them, using your practice time efficiently, determining when you are good enough to take on the casinos, optimal betting strategy, and the math of craps.

https://archive.org/details/Cards_as_Weapons_-_Ricky_Jay_1977/page/n9/mode/1up

https://archive.org/details/wongondice0000stan/mode/1up

I think Wong on Dice may be too new to download.

Quote: aceside

There are books published on both topics.

1. Cards As Weapons, Ricky Jay, Published by Warner, 1977.
2. Wong on Dice, Stanford Wong, ‎Pi Yee Pr, 2005.

I’d like to have an electronic copy of these. If you have one, please email me a copy.

The description from Wong on Dice: Stanford Wong applies math and logic to tossing the dice to get an advantage over casinos at craps. Included are all the details of setting the dice, tossing them, using your practice time efficiently, determining when you are good enough to take on the casinos, optimal betting strategy, and the math of craps.
link to original post

You didn’t say anything about the dice cutting vegetables or using them to prepare vegetables to be eaten so this book sounds useless to this convo ;)

Quote: Dieter

https://archive.org/details/Cards_as_Weapons_-_Ricky_Jay_1977/page/n9/mode/1up

https://archive.org/details/wongondice0000stan/mode/1up

I think Wong on Dice may be too new to download.
link to original post

I was a bit surprised to get to the pictures of how to hold the card to throw it, and found it was a naked woman holding the card!

English is so complicated. A dice can be used in a casino, in a kitchen, and in car racing too.

I saw these nude boobs too, but they are black and white, like x-ray images.

Quote: aceside

The description from Wong on Dice: Stanford Wong applies math and logic to tossing the dice to get an advantage over casinos at craps. Included are all the details of setting the dice, tossing them, using your practice time efficiently, determining when you are good enough to take on the casinos, optimal betting strategy, and the math of craps.

years after the book was written Wong changed his opinion re the feasibility of dice control to gain an advantage

from the linked article which discusses dice control and comes to a negative conclusion about it

"in 2011 Wong removed craps from the list of beatable games from his bj21.com com website and also removed the craps discussion page from his site. In an interview on "Gambling with an Edge" Wong admitted that for players "who want to get serious about making money in casinos, craps is not the game to play."

there is also an academic study (linked) where a machine was built - the idea being that the machine would have greater control than a human - the machine which they named "Lucky Lil" was not able to succeed due to to "our machine shows the chaotic behavior of the dice being thrown off axis after a very few bounces"


https://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/gambling-with-an-edge/dice-control-no/?srsltid=AfmBOooQyNX5R5MJALg0ZeYJZLRB_Lj40Bppo4j7Pn3WMo6fJh-84NPk


https://digitalscholarship.unlv.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1415&context=grrj


.

Similar experiments were also performed on cards as a weapon. It turned out that a high speed card could only scratch your stomach a little. As a weapon? That’s probably a joke. Sometimes misrepresenting the truth is eye catching too.

.
I'm thinking how much casinos must love players believing they can control the dice to their advantage

they prolly made tons of $$$$ because of Wong's book and other fantastical claims -

.