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ssho88
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November 14th, 2017 at 10:56:04 PM permalink
Hi,

Anyone here know where can I get the LUNAR POKER STRATEGY CALCULATOR that can calculate perfect strategy after input all seen cards including dealer and other players' cards(bet 3 hands at same online casino lunar poker table).

I am willing to pay for it.

James
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November 15th, 2017 at 2:23:45 PM permalink
Is this game anywhere life?
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November 15th, 2017 at 11:24:59 PM permalink
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November 15th, 2017 at 11:26:03 PM permalink
Quote: UCivan

Is this game anywhere life?



No. Only available at online casino, one player can bet up to 3 hands max per round, say you bet 1 unit in box 1, 5 units in box 2 and 10 units in box 3. When play hand 1, you only can see cards in hand 1( and dealer's upcard), when play hand 2, you can see hand 1 and hand 2 cards(>= 11 cards), when play hand 3, you can see hand 1,hand 2 and hand 3 cards(>= 16 cards).

I think player can have +ve edge( in favor of player) for hand 2 and hand 3.

Any comments ?

I am willing to pay a LUNAR POKER STRATEGY CALCULATOR with reasonable price. Please help.[/bd]
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November 16th, 2017 at 7:31:48 AM permalink
IF you could use said information on 3 hands only (instead of full table knowledge) I don't know that it would yet yield an advantage, ESPECIALLY because even if you got an advantage it would be on your last hand, but you'd also have the negative EV from the first 2 forced bets/hands to account for as well. To me, I doubt you're getting an advantage. In the same token, IF you were, you'd want to bet as SMALL AS POSSIBLE on the first two hands, and as large as your bankroll could handle on the 3rd hand. More like $1, $1, $100.
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November 16th, 2017 at 7:42:08 AM permalink
I believe there's very similar variants called Russian Poker or something overseas that players can play with a small + EV.
ssho88
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November 16th, 2017 at 4:00:51 PM permalink
Hand 2 have edge = +0.4%+-( in favor of player) and hand 3's edge should more than +1% !
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November 16th, 2017 at 5:22:07 PM permalink
I certainly don't have one. There are several members here who could make one.
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November 16th, 2017 at 6:20:49 PM permalink
Quote: UCivan

Is this game anywhere life?



I saw this game in a casino in the south Eastern United States in September 2017.
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November 16th, 2017 at 10:11:16 PM permalink
Quote: Romes

IF you could use said information on 3 hands only (instead of full table knowledge) I don't know that it would yet yield an advantage, ESPECIALLY because even if you got an advantage it would be on your last hand, but you'd also have the negative EV from the first 2 forced bets/hands to account for as well. To me, I doubt you're getting an advantage. In the same token, IF you were, you'd want to bet as SMALL AS POSSIBLE on the first two hands, and as large as your bankroll could handle on the 3rd hand. More like $1, $1, $100.



Romes, please do not make me laugh! : )

Or You do not understand what You are saying, or You write this specifically ...
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November 17th, 2017 at 6:08:37 PM permalink
This is a complex game to analyze. The payoffs on 5 same colored cards and on 5 picture cards are unusual, and the requirement that the player's hand must beat the dealer in order to get a payout will have an effect on going after "5 same colored cards." The "Bet 1 additional unit" in order to draw a 6th card without discarding anything is also a complicated rule to analyze.

OP may very well be right about the advantages of playing the 2nd and third hand. You will see anywhere from 5-9 cards per hand. In the extremum, you could see up to 18 cards before playing the 3rd hand - that is over 1/3 of the deck. That's pretty good penetration.
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November 17th, 2017 at 6:27:17 PM permalink
What's wrong with the analysis on dicountgabmbling.net:

https://discountgambling.net/?s=lunar
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November 17th, 2017 at 7:49:57 PM permalink
Quote: UCivan

What's wrong with the analysis on dicountgabmbling.net:

https://discountgambling.net/?s=lunar



Not clear that is the same game.

ssho8, can you post a url address foro the set of rules for the game you are interested in?
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November 17th, 2017 at 8:12:50 PM permalink
Are people missing the fact that this is online?

I'm not sure what what kind of percentage someone could achieve using a computer perfect strategy seeing all them cards, but it sounds interesting.

Is this a live version of the game?

I have no doubt he has though about the risks vs rewards when dealing with an online casino.
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December 1st, 2017 at 11:20:08 PM permalink
Yes there was a live version, Iíll save the rest for a non forum convo
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December 2nd, 2017 at 6:36:38 AM permalink
They have Lunar Poker at the SkyCity Auckland casino.
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December 2nd, 2017 at 8:00:33 AM permalink
Game was found Several/plenty of places in us up until a couple years ago. Places that I saw it last it was modified in a fashion to make it uninteresting if you want to win. Haven't personally played it.
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December 2nd, 2017 at 9:03:18 AM permalink
They had lunar poker at Hollywood Casino St. Louis. Nobody ever played it, and it wound up getting replaced by HCF a several months ago.
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December 2nd, 2017 at 6:33:32 PM permalink
As far as I know all of the Lunar games in the US were replaced with the version that has a mandatory side bet.

That side bet basically eliminates the edge from player collusion. I blame Stephen for posting so much about it! :P
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December 2nd, 2017 at 6:49:25 PM permalink
To my knowledge, the biggest problem with Lunar Poker in the US is that it didn't really see a lot of play. In other countries the max bets are much bigger, the scrutiny for a long time was close to zero, and certain conditions were very favorable for Russian teams to smash away. In many of those countries now a Russian passport is worse than wearing a MIT blackjack team hat.
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December 2nd, 2017 at 8:38:47 PM permalink
Quote: tongni

To my knowledge, the biggest problem with Lunar Poker in the US is that it didn't really see a lot of play. In other countries the max bets are much bigger, the scrutiny for a long time was close to zero, and certain conditions were very favorable for Russian teams to smash away. In many of those countries now a Russian passport is worse than wearing a MIT blackjack team hat.



This is pretty much my understanding too. I heard rumors that it was a good advantage play for a while but wasn't the kind of thing I felt comfortable pursuing. And contrary to popular belief, I don't ruin every advantage play I hear about by writing about it.
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December 2nd, 2017 at 10:52:45 PM permalink
Lunar in the US was played quite a bit by at least 1 AP team. Unfortunately there was too much info posted online about it, so the casinos were pretty paranoid. They often pulled the game after 1 night of play.

The casinos pulled the game and they added the mandatory side bet, killing the advantage play.

It was never all that popular with casual gamblers, though it did seem to get some locals that were pretty loyal.
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December 3rd, 2017 at 1:44:34 AM permalink
American traditions are different : )

In the countries of the former USSR and eastern Europe, Lunar poker (in the original Russian) is the most popular game among card games. And the rules are not cut, but full rules that theoretically give the player a +EV on two boxes and more. If the rules cut the guests stop playing

You ask and do casinos win or lose!? WIN, and very much! : ) The player must believe that there is a chance of victory, to be adv.gambler You need a heavy bankroll and discipline, which many do not have : )

I always openly said that the casino to increase profits should be allowed full rules and learn to identify the advancers, and an army of idiots who read a "free strategy" of internet will bring all of their money : ) The casino that the first thing it understands will pass competitors...

You ask if I'm not dreaming!? No : ) Welcome visit us to gamble it : )
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March 1st, 2020 at 4:34:29 AM permalink
I too want to buy one, did you get that?

Amy
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March 1st, 2024 at 3:38:33 PM permalink
I would also buy one
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