cclub79
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August 31st, 2010 at 6:38:24 PM permalink
Does anyone still enjoy watching the WSOP on ESPN? Tonight (Tues 8/31) is another new episode. I must admit, as a poker fan, I really enjoyed the broadcasts when they first hit the scene bigtime in 2003. But does anyone still get into the broadcasts? I feel like I've seen every bad beat and every suck out and every double up and every bust already. Sometimes I'll put it on if nothing else is on while I'm doing work, but for me it's lost its charm. Am I alone? Did anyone here play in the main event or go watch any of it? If you just went to watch, what was the experience like? What could you actually see? I've been to and played in plenty of tournaments on the East Coast, but never been there for the Main Event. Maybe next year.
mkl654321
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August 31st, 2010 at 6:44:13 PM permalink
Quote: cclub79

Does anyone still enjoy watching the WSOP on ESPN? Tonight (Tues 8/31) is another new episode. I must admit, as a poker fan, I really enjoyed the broadcasts when they first hit the scene bigtime in 2003. But does anyone still get into the broadcasts? I feel like I've seen every bad beat and every suck out and every double up and every bust already. Sometimes I'll put it on if nothing else is on while I'm doing work, but for me it's lost its charm. Am I alone? Did anyone here play in the main event or go watch any of it? If you just went to watch, what was the experience like? What could you actually see? I've been to and played in plenty of tournaments on the East Coast, but never been there for the Main Event. Maybe next year.



It's like watching the ESPN highlight recap of a baseball game. On the WSOP TV broadcasts, every hand is interesting. In real life, it's deadly dull to watch. If you want a better approximation, watch "Poker After Dark" with the snoozy action and that godawful theme music. One guy picks up AJ, raises, and everybody folds. Zzzzzzzz.

I do enjoy Norman Chad's commentary, and I think he makes the show. Contrast that with the World Poker Tour broadcasts with Mike Sexton and that babbling idiot, whose name I cannot recall ("Stupid" will do). That show is almost painful to watch.

I played in the 2005, 2006, and 2007 WSOP, but not the Main Event. Ten grand was way over my personal willing-to-throw-away threshold. I made enough in the side games to enter a few events, but the closest I ever got to cashing was going all in close to the bubble with AA and getting called and beaten by A4 offsuit.
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avargov
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August 31st, 2010 at 6:46:53 PM permalink
I used to REALLY enjoy it! However, since Harrahs became involved, and that now are I think 18,552,452,222,155 entrants every year, I have lost interest. Perhaps I am an elitist, but the WSOP (and big tourney poker in general), was much better when the top pros were pitted against each other. Of course I am against pro sports (big 4) expansion as well.
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August 31st, 2010 at 6:48:40 PM permalink
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Does anyone still enjoy watching the WSOP on ESPN? Tonight (Tues 8/31) is another new episode. I must admit, as a poker fan, I really enjoyed the broadcasts when they first hit the scene bigtime in 2003. But does anyone still get into the broadcasts? I feel like I've seen every bad beat and every suck out and every double up and every bust already. Sometimes I'll put it on if nothing else is on while I'm doing work, but for me it's lost its charm. Am I alone? Did anyone here play in the main event or go watch any of it? If you just went to watch, what was the experience like? What could you actually see? I've been to and played in plenty of tournaments on the East Coast, but never been there for the Main Event. Maybe next year.



I think I have to agree it has lost much of its charm. I don't watch much sports and mostly sports to me is about handicapping and picking a bet. I do consider poker a "sport" in many regards. But in 2003 we seemed to have more players who wanted to play and there just happened to be a camera around. Today they seem more concerned about mugging for the camera. And most viewers have figured out you see at most 10% of the actual hands, making it seem almost staged.
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cclub79
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August 31st, 2010 at 6:58:33 PM permalink
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Perhaps I am an elitist, but the WSOP (and big tourney poker in general), was much better when the top pros were pitted against each other.



I think that's why they tried the $50,000 World Championship Event (or whatever it was called) with the hope that only the top pros would enter.

I do kind of enjoy the Heads Up Championship NBC puts on. The Field of 64 bracket is compelling. Just watching chip stacks go up and down over the course of Tuesday nights in the WSOP doesn't cut it for me.
cclub79
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August 31st, 2010 at 7:00:24 PM permalink
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But in 2003 we seemed to have more players who wanted to play and there just happened to be a camera around. Today they seem more concerned about mugging for the camera.



Great point as usual. It's like NASCAR...don't let the race get in the way of the sponsors and those shiny logos!
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September 1st, 2010 at 12:06:12 AM permalink
Ive only been a die hard poker fan for 3 years so I still love watching the main event. I also love the bad jokes that Norman rambles off. deamon deacon, ragin cajons or whatever hes been saying this year.

Of course id much rather watch highstakes poker or PAD cash game. I dont see how there isnt a new episode every week (cash game that is). why not just recruit people from Bobby's room or maybe just make a show from there. I'd watch that. PAD tourneys are god awful i hope they stop with those.
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September 1st, 2010 at 1:17:00 AM permalink
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Of course id much rather watch highstakes poker or PAD cash game. I dont see how there isnt a new episode every week (cash game that is). why not just recruit people from Bobby's room or maybe just make a show from there. I'd watch that. PAD tourneys are god awful i hope they stop with those.



High Stakes Poker used to air a cash game on GSN. They filmed for a few hours then chopped it up into weekly episodes to make a season. It wasn't half bad, but it was something only a poker player would watch. There were similar issues with Live at the Bike, which was a webcast that ended up cancelled when the producers realised there was no money to be found.

There was also an unedited broadcast of an invitational single-table tournament from Monte Carlo televised a while ago. It was a) boring as hell with four hours of play and b) interesting as hell because it's virtually the only publically available tournament where you can watch professionals and their hole cards from wire to wire.

I suspect the only viable way to broadcast poker is on a premium channel in small doses, something like Hard Knocks. I was going to watch the WSOP HORSE event on ESPN until I turned it on and discovered they were showing just the final table, and it was NLHE. Crikey.
odiousgambit
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September 1st, 2010 at 4:09:51 AM permalink
WSOP is the only TV poker I will watch. Last night I forgot all about it, which should tell you my level of interest anymore. I do try to catch some of it sometimes.

It sort of is a victim of its own success: so many in "the field" now means the "stars" are unlikely to make it to the final table, and may not make it far at all. This clearly frustrates the producers.
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September 1st, 2010 at 10:22:21 AM permalink
I still watch all the WSOP ep's and the NBC Heads Up. I tried the "Doubles Poker' but just couldn't get into it. I played in '05 ME and when 1 of my tables broke 1 person was going to the TV table, but alas it wasn't me.

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