Cheating Poker busted post

Somebody copied and pasted a gigantic log file of a poker game, alleging that one the player was correctly predicting the flop most of the time. I busted it because I think copying and pasting huge amounts of material is rude. If that person wishes to discuss the issue, fine, but please edit the evidence. Here is an example:

Quote:

H8ONLINEPOKER2: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO ACE IN FLOP...ALSO A PAIR IN FLOP
*** FLOP *** [9s Td 7s]

H8ONLINEPOKER2: ACE IN FLOP OR PAIR
*** FLOP *** [8h 3h 8d]

H8ONLINEPOKER2: L!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 NO CLUBS IN FLOP
*** FLOP *** [8s 6c Jd]

Note that he got the third one wrong.

Quote: Wizard

Somebody copied and pasted a gigantic log file of a poker game, alleging that one the player was correctly predicting the flop most of the time. I busted it because I think copying and pasting huge amounts of material is rude. If that person wishes to discuss the issue, fine, but please edit the evidence. Here is an example:

Quote:

H8ONLINEPOKER2: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO ACE IN FLOP...ALSO A PAIR IN FLOP
*** FLOP *** [9s Td 7s]

H8ONLINEPOKER2: ACE IN FLOP OR PAIR
*** FLOP *** [8h 3h 8d]

H8ONLINEPOKER2: L!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 NO CLUBS IN FLOP
*** FLOP *** [8s 6c Jd]

Note that he got the third one wrong.

I believe this is his second attempt to show that a particular site is unfair. With all of the sites out there, I find it curious that someone is convinced that a site is unfair, yet they continue to play there. Must be something in the subconscious that is telling them that it is fair. Or some kind of punishment-enjoying sicko, based on his login name. The previous evidence had a confidence level of about 0%, at least I was approximately 0% convinced the site was cheating.

Quote: Wizard

Somebody copied and pasted a gigantic log file of a poker game, alleging that one the player was correctly predicting the flop most of the time. I busted it because I think copying and pasting huge amounts of material is rude. If that person wishes to discuss the issue, fine, but please edit the evidence. Here is an example:

Quote:

H8ONLINEPOKER2: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO ACE IN FLOP...ALSO A PAIR IN FLOP
*** FLOP *** [9s Td 7s]

H8ONLINEPOKER2: ACE IN FLOP OR PAIR
*** FLOP *** [8h 3h 8d]

H8ONLINEPOKER2: L!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 NO CLUBS IN FLOP
*** FLOP *** [8s 6c Jd]

Note that he got the third one wrong.

i'm sorry if that was rude. didn't mean to . And please excuse my ingorance on editing my point. But pease don't bust what is correct wiz. It's more t
hen predicting flops. Please look again at. h8online pocket cards. Then look at the board cards.
Notice this . when player has a pocket card higher then the cards in flop. either a higher card is dealt or a pair is dealt. And happening over 10 hands in a row. And it's hard to write notes as game goes on, and hard to type what i need to say, before a all in bet is made, or the flop is dealt out. And i'm sorry that player was h8online/me. that did the predicting of flops. And I think it was in the 70% correct . on the prediction.. And more then happy , to do it in your presents....

Quote: 40487

i'm sorry if that was rude. didn't mean to . And please excuse my ingorance on editing my point. But pease don't bust what is correct wiz. It's more t
hen predicting flops. Please look again at. h8online pocket cards. Then look at the board cards.
Notice this . when player has a pocket card higher then the cards in flop. either a higher card is dealt or a pair is dealt. And happening over 10 hands in a row. And it's hard to write notes as game goes on, and hard to type what i need to say, before a all in bet is made, or the flop is dealt out. And i'm sorry that player was h8online/me. that did the predicting of flops. And I think it was in the 70% correct . on the prediction.. And more then happy , to do it in your presents....

Please read the last item in my FAQ about Internet Gambling. If you're not going to take the time to edit your log file, why should I?

this isa response to club###...It's not attempt is a fact. Can you deal 30 or more pocket cards, without having one combo of AkQj10 CARDS? ..try it ...Can u also deal flops that have 90% of 2 matching suit cards? And not adding in the 2 cards that support a str8 with the 2 matching suit cards in the flops?
Have you ever took the time and counted all the dealt out A k q j 10?
And if you did maybe you would notice that 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9.with 8 cards total. Is dealt less then the A k q j 10 cards with only five cards total.
And have counted how many times the ACE, or King cards are dealt at river? And why are they the most dealt cards for river?
Here's something simple watch espn poker. Its on for hours some nights. COUNT 30, or even 60 hands played. then in those 30, or 60 add up all the str8s, flushes, fullhouse, bad beats, river winners.
Then go online , and do the same. Then compare the two.

the problem it seems to me that a parade of million dip-sh*t amatures have claimed idiotic conclusions before me on this forum. So I ask. What do you need. To raise a red flag?

response to club## yes. and i remember playing at sportsbook, and doylesroom. And being the first poker player Out of thousands of other players that had played on their for years. Recognized bots playing on those sites and even had a sportsbook personal verify, and I received 1000 gold chips....and to think for years players never knew. They hadn't played nowwhere but online. Just didn't know no better...

Quote: 40487

the problem it seems to me that a parade of million dip-sh*t amatures have claimed idiotic conclusions before me on this forum. So I ask. What do you need. To raise a red flag?

You need tens of thousands of hands to prove anything. For me, this goes back to the "Gamblers see patterns where they don't really exist." Imagine if each card was numbered 1 to 52 rather than four suits/13 ranks. Then it's a lot harder to see a pattern. Or people look at a roulette wheel with 10 reds in a row. How rare is that? Well it's the same rarity as any other 10 number combination that will appear every 10 spins. This time, it just happened to be ten of the same color. We give value to things that SEEM to stand out, when mathematically, RRRRRRRRRR has the same chance of happening as RRBRBBGBRB. But the second one don't look as sexy, so we don't notice it. But if you were given odds, both are as equally likely to occur. As for your low cards: Again, you are using previous results to color how you expect future results. The cards don't know that last time you were given 8-2 offsuit, so they are just as likely to give you garbage again. That's the MATH side of the argument.

The other side says the risk/reward of an online poker site cheating is astronomically against the casino cheating. If there were a whistleblower from inside the company (It would only take ONE) that could prove that ONE hand ONCE was fixed, it would explode across the internet and they would lose all credibility with the serious players. They already have a website that prints money by running software. Online poker has even less reason to cheat than other online casinos...they aren't even playing against the player! They just take their rake on all the hundreds of hands that are going on at the same time. For similar reasons, I don't believe that brick-and-mortar casinos cheat, even though some on this board think they do.

Could I be wrong and every online poker site is cheating? Maybe. But as someone who has absolutely no dog in the fight, I can only take all of the evidence and logic and make an educated guess.

Quote: 40487

the problem it seems to me that a parade of million dip-sh*t amatures have claimed idiotic conclusions before me on this forum.

I think I speak on behalf of all the dip-shits on this forum:

Bad beats happen.
Unusual things happen.

Deal with it and stop being such a cry-baby.

Quote: DJTeddyBear

Bad beats happen.
Unusual things happen.

Deal with it and stop being such a cry-baby.

In all fairness, he copied and pasted a 1030-line transcript from a poker game into a post. I busted it because it was too long and the formatting was screwed up. It is the first post I have busted, BTW.

However, I copied and saved it into my own file, which I uploaded here. So, he did submit some evidence, although in a very annoying way. I suggested he save me some time and eliminate chatter in the log file not pertinent to his case, but he refused. For that reason, I don't feel obligated to spend any further effort on the matter.

Quote: DJTeddyBear

I think I speak on behalf of all the dip-shits on this forum:

I have to say insulting the people you are asking help from is a good way to get, well, a bunch of s**t instead.

A previous poster said there are plenty of other ways they can mess with you, and that's got to be right. However, there was the case of the Insider a year or two ago that indeed could see everyone's cards and was cleaning up before he got caught. Rogue employee I guess. So what the poster is claiming can't be dismissed as totally improbable. It's just the other stuff.

edit: search Kahnawake for stories on the cheating

I read through his transcript briefly - the guy constantly shouts out predictions to the table to "prove" that nothing goes his way. He'll call out something like below with Ts Js:

NO SPADES IN FLOP, BUT A PAIR,OR QUEEN HIGHER

Get told to shut up:

kingson32: could u shut the hell up

Then be proven mostly wrong:

*** FLOP *** [3s 4s Ad]

The guy calls out predictions that are almost impossible to not come at least partially true, and then clams divine premonition - no spades, OR there will be any pair, OR a Q, OR a K, OR an A. Odds of no matching suit when you've got a suited hand: 46.6%. Odds of a pair on the flop: 11.5%. Odds of a Q, K, or A when you hold none of them: 57.0%. Since the probabilities are not independent I'm not going to figure out the odds of at least one of those coming true, but c'mon guy - odds of winning a hand w/ JT suited in a 10-handed game is a paltry 18.07% anyway (per the Wizard's power ratings). It's online poker, and people play EVERYTHING, so "bad beats" (which I hesitate to call anything in the posted history) happen, just like a run of crappy starting hands.

Quote: Wizard

In all fairness, he copied and pasted a 1030-line transcript from a poker game into a post. I busted it because it was too long and the formatting was screwed up. It is the first post I have busted, BTW.

I saw it, along with the odd page formatting, last night.

Truth is, I was starting to think he might actually have a legitimate gripe. I take that opinion for no reason other than this is not the first time he has dumped long logs here. He dumped three or four of them here about a week or so ago.

Of course, it begs the question, was he getting quality hands in-between?

But then he went and insulted us. So I'm kinda done.

Quote: Wizard

I suggested he save me some time and eliminate chatter in the log file not pertinent to his case, but he refused. For that reason, I don't feel obligated to spend any further effort on the matter.

I'm kinda surprised you even went to the effort that you did. But that's cool too.

Quote: DJTeddyBear

I'm kinda surprised you even went to the effort that you did. But that's cool too.

I consider exposing online casino cheating to be part of my job description. I would be remiss in my duties to not take evidence seriously, as long as the evidence is well summarized and mathematical in nature, not a huge log file, or an adjective-laden complaint by a sore loser.

To toot my own horn, I believe mine was the first web site to publicly accuse Absolute Poker in the hole card scandal. I've also accused various online casinos of rigging blackjack, roulette, and video poker games. More information here.

To me, this guy is trying to ruin this forum. I don't believe any of his logs.
If I was the admin, I would ban his ID, or even block his IP.

I hate to have to take the other side, or play devil's advocate, but I think the guy has a point.

It's clear to me from his excessively spell-checked and grammatically correct posts, as well as the log post from his online time, that there is clearly a conspiracy against him, perpetuated not only by the online casino site, but ALL online casino sites, and even Al Gore, inventory of the internet, himself.

My only suggestion would be to stop playing at online casino sites, as they are clearly designed to take your money away from you. They are giving everybody else in the world a completely honest game, and are only fixing your game, so clearly, they have something against you.

I would recommend you continue to play cards with yourself on your living room floor. You will find yourself losing a lot less money.

Quote: pokerface

I don't believe any of his logs.

One of his earlier logs showed that he folded pocket 9's before the flop when he was UTG. Is it any wonder he has such "bad luck"?

Quote: 40487

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to H8ONLINEPOKER2 [9s 9h]
H8ONLINEPOKER2 folds

Link here ... use your browser's search function to find this: [9s 9h]

Actually, to be fair, I just re-read it and noticed that he was sitting out that particular hand, so the software auto-folded the hand for him.

I was in a tournament a couple of weeks ago where I clicked the "Sit out" checkbox so that I could go refill my drink or something, and when I came back, saw to my horror that the hand which had been auto-folded for me was pocket aces.

Well thanks for the class b low shots. But noticed no poker knowledge kickbacks.
yeah . spelling sucks, grammer needs work. But this is a poker related subject. which
is obvious a left field subject for you. So you still needed your ego feed.
and was easier to write something about my spelling abillities. Then your poker skills.
Here do a simple test. do this challenge..get a deck of poker cards. count them to be sure theirs 52. Deal them out by 2s as pocket cards
see if you cant deal not one top 5 card combo. Any 2 cards between 10 - ace.
If you can't do this. Online poker is fake, anything thats fake can be rigged.
I have done the pocket challenge over , and over and avg. 3 any of top 5 combo.
And this should be a poker principal. Remember a online site dealt me 52 pocket cards in a row WITHOUT one top combo. And more than once......
And remember who ever reads this can do the test also, and see if you full of it.
So step up to the plate..........put your ego, and your honesty to the world

Yes, I'm going to berate your spelling and grammar. If you really want people to read what you are saying and take you seriously, it helps to write in a legible, clear manner. You are not on a forum full of people bitching and moaning about whatever losses they have taken in a casino. You obviously have not read through the forum, or you would realize this. You are reading a forum with intelligent people, who understand the mathematics of gambling, and understand the concepts of how casinos make money. If you presented your information in a well-written manner, there would be more chance of the people here listening to what you have to say. In addition, if you presented your information in an intelligent manner, there's more of a chance of the people here responding to you. Further, if you actually presented any indication that you are looking for advice, help, or information, you might get intelligence responses in return. Instead, you only seem to be looking to "prove" that online casinos are all rigged and cheating you. And apparently only cheating you.

My poker skills, at this point in my life, are non-existent, because I stopped playing poker long ago. However, in the olden days of brick-and-mortar poker rooms, I played poker extensively, and won two big-dollar tournaments. (As an interesting note, in the first tournament I ever won, I was dealt no pocket pairs until the last hand of the tournament. It was good playing ability, NOT THE CARDS, which got me to the last hand of the tournament. I only remember this because I thought of how odd it was to not have been dealt a single pocket pair throughout the tournament, and then receive one on the last hand. I received pocket 6's on the last hand, and my opponent received an AQ of spades. I pushed all in, and of course he called. My pair held up, and I won the tournament.)

In addition, I have played in several online poker casinos, and won a few tournaments and some ring games. I do not enjoy online poker because of the inability to see my opponent, gauge his reactions to the cards hitting the board, and, most importantly for my style of play and the way I win, my inability to needle the opponent (with condescending remarks about manhood, generally) into making bad plays.

However, I decided to replicate your little "test". I took a deck of poker cards. I counted them to make sure there are 52. Despite not being in your instructions, I even sorted them out, and made sure there was 1 card of every kind needed in a deck of 52 poker cards. My deck was whole, sound, complete, and without any markings of any kind. I then shuffled approximating what a brick-and-mortar casino would do, and then dealt myself 2 hole cards, again, in a brick-and-mortar style. Here are the results of your "test":

(8d 9c), (8s 4d), (9c 5h), (Kc 4s), (Ac 2d), (7d 5h), (9d 4h), (6h 4s), (Kc 8s), (As 8c),
(Qc 9d), (8c 3d), (8c 7s), (8s 6s), (Kd 6d), (8d 5s), (Jd 4d), (Kh 4s), (Ah 7s), (5h 2d),
(Td 7d), (Qd 5d), (Ac 3h), (Kh 5c), (Ad 4h), (Ah 6s), (2d 4d), (8s 3d), (Qc 5h), (Ks 5c),
(As 5h), (8d 3c), (Kc 7h), (Ks 4s), (Kc 7h), (2d 2c), (7c 5c), (7d 6s), (9h Td), (Ah 7d),
(8h 4s), (6s 3d), (9d 7c), (7d 6c), (8c 3s), (8d 9c), (Qd 3d), (6s 2c), (Kc 7d), (Qc 5d),
(9s 7c), (8h 4d), (Qh 6d), (2h 2d), (Ac 7c), (Ts 7s), (8c Th), (Ah 8h), (9s 2h), (Jd Th),
(Ac 9s), (Td 3d), (Kh 6s), (5s 3d), (Kh Qs)

There should be 10 hands per line to make for easier counting. Note that it took until hand 60 to get a "top 5 card combo" as you want to see. I kept dealing the cards until hand 65 [Kh Qs] simply because even though hand 60 was the first "top 5 card combo" it's an unplayable hand and should be folded. Hand 65 is VERY marginal, and I would probably fold on any heavy raise, and definitely on any re-raise. I would also note that the first hand I would even consider playing in an online room is hand 55 [Ac 7c]. In a brick-and-mortar casino, the first hand I would even consider playing is hand 36 [2d 2c], and then only in late position and with full knowledge of who my opponents are and what they play, how they play it, and whether or not they can be bluffed.

But, here's an interesting note in this sequence of hands, and one you should take stock of: there are 3 playable hands within the last 11 hands (hand 55: [Ac 7c], hand 58 [Ah 8h], and marginal hand 65 [Kh Qs]), yet it took 55 hands to get to the first playable hand. This just goes to show, and what you need to remember, that due to the vagaries of randomness, sometimes you can get a lot of playable hands within a short number of hands, and SOMETIMES YOU WILL NOT GET ANY GOOD HANDS WITHIN A LONG STRETCH OF HANDS.

The last tournament I played in was back in December. The only reason I played in the tournament was due to the fact that the tournament entry was free, and Harrah's was giving me a room for 3 night for free as well. I really didn't want to play in the tournament as all, as my poker playing is rusty, and as I had given up poker long ago, mainly because of my inherent mean streak against other players. Anyway, I was the 2nd person busted out of the tournament, and I was not dealt one single playable hand. I lost by being blinded out. However, I did not get up and start accusing Harrah's poker room of cheating. I simply accepted the fact that long runs of bad cards happen, and there's nothing that can be done about it.

When I first started playing online poker, I did VERY poorly. Which irked me to no end simply because I had done so well in live poker games. It took me a long time (longer than I'd rather admit) and a lot of money (more than I'd like to admit) to realize that the reason was because of the absence of a physical player that I could look at, stare down, and read their tells. There's nothing like realizing a certain nervous tic means the player missed their hand, and being able to bluff them out with a crap hand. This is something that is just not replicateable on an online poker room. All the fancy tracking software in the world just won't tell you when that player several computers away is twitching because he missed his hand. Further, you can't use the information that the man just had his wife leave him, as a needling factor to force him into making bad plays. There's nothing like telling a guy he's half a man because his wife is cheating on him with someone else to make him call you when he shouldn't.

My advice to you remains the same: quit playing online poker. Think of it this way. There are only 3 possible explanations: 1) You have really bad luck. (It happens). 2. You are not any good at online poker. (Was true about me, because of my style of play.) or 3. The casino is rigged against you. No matter which one of the 3 are true, and you know I'm not going to think it's #3, but if you think it is, that's fine, then you should just quit playing online poker. If nothing else, you will save yourself the aggravation and the angst that it is obviously causing you.

Now, if you can form a coherent and intelligible response, I'd be more than happy to read it and give my opinions. But if you're going to continue to just throw up on your keyboard and hope that something meaningful gets through, then I can no longer allow myself the aggravation and angst of dealing with you, when I could obviously just go online and win all your money at the "corrupt" online poker rooms.

Quote: JB

I was in a tournament a couple of weeks ago where I clicked the "Sit out" checkbox so that I could go refill my drink or something, and when I came back, saw to my horror that the hand which had been auto-folded for me was pocket aces.

Get a laptop.

More times than I can count, my laptop is on the kitchen counter as I make dinner and check my hands at the same time....

Quote: 40487

Well thanks for the class b low shots.

Low shots?

You mean like your "dip-sh*t" reference???

Quote: 40487

the problem it seems to me that a parade of million dip-sh*t amatures have claimed idiotic conclusions before me on this forum.

Quote: DJTeddyBear

Get a laptop.

More times than I can count, my laptop is on the kitchen counter as I make dinner and check my hands at the same time....

It actually was on my laptop. It's not worth the trouble to unplug it and bring to the kitchen with me just to get a drink.

LOL!

That'll teach ya!

(Of course, I feel your pain, but I gotta chuckle...)

Quote: JB

It actually was on my laptop. It's not worth the trouble to unplug it and bring to the kitchen with me just to get a drink.

All you did was save yourself losing a pot. Those Aces would have been cracked by someone calling preflop with 2-4.

Like Doyle Brunson says, with Aces or Kings, you are most likely going to win a small pot or lose a big pot.

Quote: cclub79

All you did was save yourself losing a pot. Those Aces would have been cracked by someone calling preflop with 2-4.

Nah.

Who would be dippy enough to call a big raise with 2-4 ?

Quote: DJTeddyBear

Nah.

Who would be dippy enough to call a big raise with 2-4 ?

You'd be surprised what you see online. I joined a knockout SNG a couple weeks ago. The starting stack was 1500. The very first hand, I was dealt pocket Kings. Everyone before me folds; I raise to 400. The guy after me pushes all in. I'm worried he might have Aces, but I call anyway.

He has suited Q-5.

The flop comes A-Q-8, with the 8 being the same suit as his Q-5. A blank comes on the turn, ruining any chances he had of making a flush. The river card was a third Queen, and I was the first one eliminated.

Quote: JB

You'd be surprised what you see online.

A buzz phrase today is "poker can be cruel" .... but it is so true

Quote: JB

Quote: DJTeddyBear

Nah.

Who would be dippy enough to call a big raise with 2-4 ?

You'd be surprised what you see online.

JB -

You missed my 'dippy' reference to a certain post/thread regarding a 2-4 getting counterfeited in what was, ahem, obviously a bad beat.

No, I got it. :)

oh i'm sorry.. and i didn't refused. just suck at this right now. 15 years working on construction sites, and being on call every other week
hasn't allowed me to improve much on my posting, and writting skills.

from a konceptum's post about t5s.showing his shuffled deck.
8d 9c), (8s 4d), (9c 5h), (Kc 4s), (Ac 2d), (7d 5h), (9d 4h), (6h 4s), (Kc 8s), (As 8c),
(Qc 9d), (8c 3d), (8c 7s), (8s 6s), (Kd 6d), (8d 5s), (Jd 4d), (Kh 4s), (Ah 7s), (5h 2d),
(Td 7d), (Qd 5d), (Ac 3h), (Kh 5c), (Ad 4h), (Ah 6s), (2d 4d), (8s 3d), (Qc 5h), (Ks 5c),
(As 5h), (8d 3c), (Kc 7h), (Ks 4s), (Kc 7h), (2d 2c), (7c 5c), (7d 6s), (9h Td), (Ah 7d),
(8h 4s), (6s 3d), (9d 7c), (7d 6c), (8c 3s), (8d 9c), (Qd 3d), (6s 2c), (Kc 7d), (Qc 5d),
(9s 7c), (8h 4d), (Qh 6d), (2h 2d), (Ac 7c), (Ts 7s), (8c Th), (Ah 8h), (9s 2h), (Jd Th),
(Ac 9s), (Td 3d), (Kh 6s), (5s 3d), (Kh Qs)





Your either the worst shuffler, or a really lazy one. I see 8c beside each other. Next time you try show some effort
if you break a fingernail is worth a well shuffled deck. (10s 3d( 7d Js( 2c 9d ( As Kd ). 4 times.
let try again. (4d 3h) 2h As) Ks Jd). 3 times .How about that...well maybe you need to go to a gym work on your forearms .
If you going to play with the big boys, you need to take your skirt off. I've notice the stupid ones always write more then they
should, and you needed to stop at.- yes.

You know, the last time konceptum posted was over two months ago - unfortunately I don't think he's going to see your post, 40487.

But, I guess that's what you get for resurrecting an old thread...

Quote: Wizard

Somebody copied and pasted a gigantic log file of a poker game, If that person wishes to discuss the issue, fine, but please edit the evidence.

Its been my experience that those who wish to throw huge amounts of data around generally know they don't have much of a case.

1. State your point succinctly.
2. Summarize the evidence succinctly. Citing only the most major evidence.
3. Provide the backup material in an appendix.

If you can't make your point succinctly you are probably making overreaching claims and trying to hide that by throwing massive amounts of data around. If you have the needles, produce them. Don't try to tell people that the needles are in the haystack.

Amen to Fleastiff's post above.

to flea..thanks for your tips. Alot time when your give data. People ask about who called, or folded ? Was you in the hand ?
When was the bet ? How many players at the table ?
Who had what ? What was their betting style ?
How many players were betting ? When did they fold ?
Need to have more hands ?
Show more proof ?


And with my editing skills, I'm always concern about making people think I'm adding false info

thanks..

The odds of getting a "combo" hand, where you have a 10-A, 10A is only 14.3288 percent (there are 1,326 possible starting hands, and 190 of them are the combos). Therefore the odds of getting 50 hands in a row of non-combo hands is (1-.143288)exp 50
= .000322 or about 3.2 in 10,000. Not great, but it can happen.

success comes before work only in the dictionary.

Does anyone else have a problem with the formatting of that post by 40487? It looks quite messed up to me. It's the first time I have had such a problem. I don't use IE, which caused some problems before with over-sized photos.


Edit: Well, as of the morning of 11/16, the previous post looks nothing at all like it did when I posted the above -- neither the formatting nor the comment by 40487.

Quote: boymimbo

The odds of getting a "combo" hand, where you have a 10-A, 10A is only 14.3288 percent (there are 1,326 possible starting hands, and 190 of them are the combos). Therefore the odds of getting 50 hands in a row of non-combo hands is (1-.143288)exp 50
= .000322 or about 3.2 in 10,000. Not great, but it can happen.

good to hear that 3.2 out of 10,000.....thanks
Last night after reading a post. I hit one twice under 10 deals, and at 14.
I never went higher then 30 tries at it. And probable done it at least over 500 times. all together last few months.
I think konceptum went to 64 times before, his t5...he's first go...