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July 19th, 2011 at 8:40:22 AM permalink
I invite you to be among the first to learn about Mini-Tex, a new game game with a couple of placements. As always when I preview a new page, I welcome all comments, corrections, and questions.
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July 19th, 2011 at 8:57:59 AM permalink
Hiya Wiz,

I would clarify under Rule 9....The player must use at least one of his two hole cards to make his hand<word it however you like>..

at least that's the way I understand it...I had to read it a couple times, but I'm not a poker player, so...
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July 19th, 2011 at 9:24:01 AM permalink
Also found at the Trump Marina (now Golden Nugget) in Atlantic City. I think I asked about it in one of the first threads here:

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/tables/1204-mini-tex-3-card-hold-em/

Thanks for the analysis!
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July 19th, 2011 at 9:33:08 AM permalink
I don't quite understand this:

"Under optimal strategy, the player will make the Flop bet, given that he gets that far, 93.5% of the time. In addition, the optimal strategy player will make the River bet 86.8% of the time, given that he gets that far."

My understanding is that making the Flop bet means placing the flop bet. If this is true, the player always makes it that far, and the player will make the Flop bet 98.64% of the time.

The probabilities listed above are for making the River bet (93.5%, given that you made it that far) and for making the play bet (86.8% given that you made it that far).
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July 19th, 2011 at 11:26:56 AM permalink
Does the bonus bet pay if the player folds? I'm assuming it doesn't, just like the pair+ bet.

BTw, for a sucker bet, it has a very low edge. Better than placing numbers in 00 roulette.
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July 19th, 2011 at 11:28:33 AM permalink
If I understand this correctly, if the table minimum is $5 the you have to bet $25 to have any chance at all to win.
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July 19th, 2011 at 11:35:31 AM permalink
Quote: Nareed

Does the bonus bet pay if the player folds? I'm assuming it doesn't, just like the pair+ bet.

BTw, for a sucker bet, it has a very low edge. Better than placing numbers in 00 roulette.


From http://www.wsgc.wa.gov/docs/game_rules/mini_tex.pdf

Quote:

Pocket Poker game is always in play, even if player folds his Mini-Tex hand.

So in Washington you get paid. Probably the same in other states.
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July 19th, 2011 at 11:52:19 AM permalink
Quote: miplet

So in Washington you get paid. Probably the same in other states.



That's not bad at all.

of course, if you get a good hand you'll also likely play it. But it's a lot better than pair+, and the game seems better than teh suual 3CP, with more skill or at least decisions required.
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July 19th, 2011 at 1:43:13 PM permalink
Quote: teddys

Also found at the Trump Marina (now Golden Nugget) in Atlantic City. I think I asked about it in one of the first threads here:

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/tables/1204-mini-tex-3-card-hold-em/

Thanks for the analysis!



I played it at the Marina in February for a little while (mainly because it was a $3 table) and I was interested in the game. I found it to be kind of confusing at first, but once you get the hang of it, you kind of feel how it works. I didn't really enjoy it all that much... but I'm a sucker for a new game.
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July 19th, 2011 at 3:14:21 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I invite you to be among the first to learn about Mini-Tex, a new game game with a couple of placements. As always when I preview a new page, I welcome all comments, corrections, and questions.



What is the criteria to get a placement on your site? Your interest in the game. Number of tables placed in U.S. Being trailed in Las Vegas. Just curious in case I get that far !
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July 19th, 2011 at 6:26:14 PM permalink
Thanks for the comments thus far.

Quote: s2dbaker

If I understand this correctly, if the table minimum is $5 the you have to bet $25 to have any chance at all to win.



Yup. That is the trend in poker-based games, to get a lot of additional bets out of the player over the course of the hand.

Quote: buzzpaff

What is the criteria to get a placement on your site? Your interest in the game. Number of tables placed in U.S. Being trailed in Las Vegas. Just curious in case I get that far !



If you hire me to do the math I guarantee a write up if you get the game placed in any casino. Otherwise it depends on the number and location of placements, complexity of the analysis, if we've done any past business, and how much I like you.
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July 19th, 2011 at 6:38:34 PM permalink
Quote: CrystalMath

I don't quite understand this:

"Under optimal strategy, the player will make the Flop bet, given that he gets that far, 93.5% of the time. In addition, the optimal strategy player will make the River bet 86.8% of the time, given that he gets that far."

My understanding is that making the Flop bet means placing the flop bet. If this is true, the player always makes it that far, and the player will make the Flop bet 98.64% of the time.

The probabilities listed above are for making the River bet (93.5%, given that you made it that far) and for making the play bet (86.8% given that you made it that far).



Agreed. Please clarify the strategy. If the player is going to raise with anything but a pair of deuces or 5-2 off in the hole, why would the "given that he gets that far" come into play? (The player's hole cards don't change).
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July 19th, 2011 at 7:26:15 PM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

Agreed. Please clarify the strategy. If the player is going to raise with anything but a pair of deuces or 5-2 off in the hole, why would the "given that he gets that far" come into play? (The player's hole cards don't change).



Thanks. You're absolutely right. Here is how it should have read:

"Under optimal strategy, the player will make the River bet, given that he gets that far, 93.5% of the time. In addition, the optimal strategy player will make the Play bet 86.8% of the time, given that he gets that far. "
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July 19th, 2011 at 8:11:47 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Thanks for the comments thus far.



Yup. That is the trend in poker-based games, to get a lot of additional bets out of the player over the course of the hand.



If you hire me to do the math I guarantee a write up if you get the game placed in any casino. Otherwise it depends on the number and
location of placements, complexity of the analysis, if we've done any past business, and how much I like you.

Wiz, if I could afford it, you would have been hires. Only business in the past is about the info
on Let It Ride side bet at Isle of Capri. So hope to have this conversation in the near future, if I get lucky.
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