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2 votes (20%)
2 votes (20%)
4 votes (40%)
1 vote (10%)
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4 votes (40%)
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3 votes (30%)
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Wizard
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September 13th, 2019 at 7:43:39 PM permalink
Frenzy Disks (16 Balls) is a roulette variant by Red Rake Gaming. There are two concentric wheels, each with 25 numbers. The player picks 8 numbers per wheel and the game releases 8 balls per wheel. The player is paid according to the number of matches per wheel and a multiplier, which depends on the least number of matches between the two wheels.



Bottom line is a return of 96.07%.

As always, I welcome all questions, comments, and especially corrections.

The question for the poll is would you play Frenzy Disks (16 Balls)?
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September 14th, 2019 at 5:21:25 AM permalink
Any matheletes on the forum agree or disagree with my math?
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September 14th, 2019 at 7:51:23 AM permalink
I did reproduce all your math, I agree with every number.

Typo: above the 2nd-to last table, you use the word "catches" when you meant to say "matches."

Grammar: You use the word "least" when you should use "lesser" or "lower," because there are only two wheels.

Clarity: Many times, you use the expression "number of matches between the two wheels." It is confusing -these are not matches "between" the wheels, i.e., these are not numbers on one wheel matching numbers on the other wheel.
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September 14th, 2019 at 9:41:43 AM permalink
Thanks Gordon for the grammatical corrections.
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September 14th, 2019 at 2:07:56 PM permalink
1) Are there two wheels turning independently or is it just two concentric parts of one wheel?
2) Are the eight balls thrown at once? Isnít there some correlation ensuing? Does your calculation assume independence of the balls?
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September 14th, 2019 at 2:45:28 PM permalink
Quote: kubikulann

1) Are there two wheels turning independently or is it just two concentric parts of one wheel?



Independent.

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2) Are the eight balls thrown at once? Isnít there some correlation ensuing? Does your calculation assume independence of the balls?



Independent. It's an electronic game.
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September 19th, 2019 at 9:26:34 AM permalink
This seems to be getting into the neighborhood of Keno in design. Much better odds than regular Keno and better odds than 0/00 roulette. Still, not for me.
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