All in Derby

Here is my latest video from the 2016 Cutting Edge show.



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One word: noisy
Two words: no strategy

It makes me wonder, why not a new, state-of-the-art Sigma Derby-type thing? Surely there can't be any patents preventing it from new development. Incorporate real little horses that run around the track, in slots or something, and maybe have an information board available before each race, like the Form, that shows the running style of each horse, or actually provide past performances, like a roulette wheel has. Give some meaning to the running styles and post positions of the little horses and have it truly relate to each horse's real probability. Don't ask me how I'd do all this stuff, I'm not a tech guy, but of all the fancy stuff they have nowadays, and considering how popular Sigma Derby was, there ought to be a demand.

As for the All-Out Racing setup, initially I don't see anything to attract my attention. Like Miplet said, no strategy. But good luck to them anyway.

Quote: bobbartop

It makes me wonder, why not a new, state-of-the-art Sigma Derby-type thing? Surely there can't be any patents preventing it from new development. Incorporate real little horses that run around the track, in slots or something, and maybe have an information board available before each race, like the Form, that shows the running style of each horse, or actually provide past performances, like a roulette wheel has. Give some meaning to the running styles and post positions of the little horses and have it truly relate to each horse's real probability. Don't ask me how I'd do all this stuff, I'm not a tech guy, but of all the fancy stuff they have nowadays, and considering how popular Sigma Derby was, there ought to be a demand.

The Tropicana in AC has a game almost identical to what you describe. I honestly forgot the name and developer but the game is as follows:

6 little horses are involved in each race in their respective lanes. Before each race odds are expressed for each horse. They show three stats for each horse which I believe are speed, stamina and acceleratio (i probably screwed those up). You can bet the usual win, exacta etc... with preset x to 1 payouts. When the race starts, you literally watch them race around the track with the standard commentary.

I was there for meetings at 11am and there were people playing it.... the dealers told me I wouldn't believe how popular it was.

Quote: mrsuit31

The Tropicana in AC has a game almost identical to what you describe. I honestly forgot the name and developer but the game is as follows:

6 little horses are involved in each race in their respective lanes. Before each race odds are expressed for each horse. They show three stats for each horse which I believe are speed, stamina and acceleratio (i probably screwed those up). You can bet the usual win, exacta etc... with preset x to 1 payouts. When the race starts, you literally watch them race around the track with the standard commentary.

I was there for meetings at 11am and there were people playing it.... the dealers told me I wouldn't believe how popular it was.

I just looked it up, sounds like the Royal Derby by AlfaStreet Gaming. And it looks pretty darn cool. There's a video on youtube.

Thank you!

IGT has all the Sigma IP if any might still apply. No idea about that stuff. Viagra still has patents, who understands patents anymore.

Quote: bobbartop

It makes me wonder, why not a new, state-of-the-art Sigma Derby-type thing?

I've seen such a game in Monte Carlo and many times at the gaming shows. I tend to think they don't perform well in the US, but they are out there.

I played this, and it took over five minutes to complete one race.

There's literally no chance it could be successful unless the time is minimized.

Quote: SM777

I played this, and it took over five minutes to complete one race.

There's literally no chance it could be successful unless the time is minimized.

But I must say this, his hat was nicer than the Masque/down under guys...

Quote: SM777

I played this, and it took over five minutes to complete one race. There's literally no chance it could be successful unless the time is minimized.

I asked what the average number of "Horse #/Spaces Moved" blower ball decisions it takes to finish a race...the answer was 9.8! It was way too long and while Mark Jones said he thought longer player "time on device" was a net positive for the game, I didn't find the time on device waiting for the blower balls to emerge to be very exciting.

Quote: Paradigm

I asked what the average number of "Horse #/Spaces Moved" blower ball decisions it takes to finish a race...the answer was 9.8! It was way too long and while Mark Jones said he thought longer player "time on device" was a net positive for the game, I didn't find the time on device waiting for the blower balls to emerge to be very exciting.

They attempted to use the "time on device" as a selling point to me too, when I mentioned four minutes in we still have no decision, and no ability to place more bets.

Falls on deaf ears really, "time on device" isn't what people are looking for to maximize revenue in a pit. Some people just don't get it.