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August 12th, 2016 at 3:53:31 PM
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Here is my second entry on the August barrage of field trial games in Vegas -- Chase the Flush. It is on field trial at the Luxor as well as the Fantasy Springs near Palm Springs.
The game follows an Ultimate Texas Hold 'Em like structure but based on High Card Flush scoring. The good news -- a low element of risk of 0.67% only! The bad news -- nobody has quantified a strategy for it yet. The analysis, which I quote, is by Stephen How, who did it by brute force.
I played it for about an hour yesterday. There were three players at the table when I arrived and same three were there when I left. All seemed to enjoy it and one was very helpful in explaining it to me. Most of the time I wasn't sure what the odds favored doing. This makes it an engaging game but I'm sure at the cost of losing a lot to mistakes. It has a nice slow pace of play, which results in losing less.
So please click the link above and let me know what you think. As always, I welcome all questions, comments, and especially corrections.
The question for the poll is would you play Chase the Flush?
The game follows an Ultimate Texas Hold 'Em like structure but based on High Card Flush scoring. The good news -- a low element of risk of 0.67% only! The bad news -- nobody has quantified a strategy for it yet. The analysis, which I quote, is by Stephen How, who did it by brute force.
I played it for about an hour yesterday. There were three players at the table when I arrived and same three were there when I left. All seemed to enjoy it and one was very helpful in explaining it to me. Most of the time I wasn't sure what the odds favored doing. This makes it an engaging game but I'm sure at the cost of losing a lot to mistakes. It has a nice slow pace of play, which results in losing less.
So please click the link above and let me know what you think. As always, I welcome all questions, comments, and especially corrections.
The question for the poll is would you play Chase the Flush?
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August 12th, 2016 at 4:09:25 PM
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August 12th, 2016 at 6:06:09 PM
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So just to clarify the player does not have to make the all in bet, he can check it all the way.Unlike in Ultimate where if you don't make a 1x bet you are folding?
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August 12th, 2016 at 6:40:37 PM
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Quote: HunterhillSo just to clarify the player does not have to make the all in bet, he can check it all the way.Unlike in Ultimate where if you don't make a 1x bet you are folding?
Good catch, thank you. My explanation of the rules was wrong. Much like in Ultimate Texas Hold 'Em, at the last decision point the player must bet 1x or fold.
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August 12th, 2016 at 6:53:37 PM
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Never heard or saw that kind of game. Is there any casino the offer that kind of game. it will be good addition to their card games.
August 12th, 2016 at 6:58:03 PM
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Interesting how they tried to steal High Card Flush from Galaxy Gaming and got their butt handed to them in court.
Then tried to copy High Card Flush with Flush Rush, which seems to have died an early death.
Now copying UTH and High Card Flush in the same game.
I think this version has a better shot at making it then Flush Rush, but it's an uphill battle when you're not bringing fresh concepts to the table. I'm sure it will get a few dozen installs. I don't see it being a 100 install game though.
ZCore13
Then tried to copy High Card Flush with Flush Rush, which seems to have died an early death.
Now copying UTH and High Card Flush in the same game.
I think this version has a better shot at making it then Flush Rush, but it's an uphill battle when you're not bringing fresh concepts to the table. I'm sure it will get a few dozen installs. I don't see it being a 100 install game though.
ZCore13
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August 12th, 2016 at 7:01:15 PM
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I voted "Yes."
This is HCF with an Ultimate Texas Hold 'em betting structure, quite a combo. Looks real interesting to play.
I don't like going in without a strategy, so I propose, as a strategy, a really loose ballpark method here:
1. Raise 3x with holding two suited to a Queen+, or three suited
2. Raise 2x after two card flop, if holding Ace-high two to a flush (Ace in hand) or a three-card or better flush.
3. Call 1x with 10-x-x or better of a suit.
This is HCF with an Ultimate Texas Hold 'em betting structure, quite a combo. Looks real interesting to play.
I don't like going in without a strategy, so I propose, as a strategy, a really loose ballpark method here:
1. Raise 3x with holding two suited to a Queen+, or three suited
2. Raise 2x after two card flop, if holding Ace-high two to a flush (Ace in hand) or a three-card or better flush.
3. Call 1x with 10-x-x or better of a suit.
Last edited by: Paigowdan on Aug 12, 2016
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August 12th, 2016 at 7:19:20 PM
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What a coincidence, I was just developing my own strategy. Here it is:
1. At the first decision point raise with any three suited or Q-9 suited or better with two suited. If close to Q-9, consider the singleton, the higher in rank the better.
2. At the second decision point, raise with any three suited cards.
3. The third decision point is tough. 68.6% of the time you will raise at this point. If forced, I would raise with any three suited or two strong suited pairs.
Pretty similar to your strategy. Great minds think alike. I think we differ the most on the last decision point, where I would raise more than you.
If anybody is looking to break new ground in the area of casino game analysis, here is your chance. Create a better strategy and prove its value via a simulation.
1. At the first decision point raise with any three suited or Q-9 suited or better with two suited. If close to Q-9, consider the singleton, the higher in rank the better.
2. At the second decision point, raise with any three suited cards.
3. The third decision point is tough. 68.6% of the time you will raise at this point. If forced, I would raise with any three suited or two strong suited pairs.
Pretty similar to your strategy. Great minds think alike. I think we differ the most on the last decision point, where I would raise more than you.
If anybody is looking to break new ground in the area of casino game analysis, here is your chance. Create a better strategy and prove its value via a simulation.
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August 12th, 2016 at 7:55:36 PM
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Quote: WizardIf anybody is looking to break new ground in the area of casino game analysis, here is your chance. Create a better strategy and prove its value via a simulation.
Charles "Charlie Ray" Mousseau better chime in on this......
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August 12th, 2016 at 9:01:37 PM
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Quote: PaigowdanCharles "Charlie Ray" Mousseau better chime in on this......
I would welcome his contribution but wouldn't begrudge him if he said he has nothing to do with it. Maybe zccore13 or ThatDonGuy will rise to the challenge.
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