I always do $100 - $200 - $400 - $800 - $1600 - $3200 - $6400 Done. If I win any of those I stop. If i go to $$6400 and don't win thats a bummer and it happens :( no steak tonite
I always play red, this was todays $ maker!!!
I played 241 games this week.
Last 10 games so you get the point.
game 232: $100 on red (Loose) - $200 on red (Win) profit for game $100
game 233: $100 on red (win) profit for day $100
game 234 $100 on red (loose) - $200 on red (loose) $400 on red (win) profit for gave $100
game 235 $100 on red (win) profit for game $100
game 236 $100 on red (loose) $200 on red ( loose ) $400 on red (loose) getting scared... don't sweet it! $800 on red (win) profit for game $100
game 237 $100 on red (loose) $200 on red (win) $100 for game
game 238 $100 on red (win) $100 for game
game 239 $100 on red (loose) $200 on red (hit a 0 ) $400 on red (win) profit for game
game 240 $100 on red (win) profit for game $100
game 241 $100 on red (loose) $200 on red (win) $100 profit for game
as you can see the faster you hit red the better it is. don't stay at roulette table took long it will get you! these 5 games profit was good with a extra $500
you can see how game 236 could have been a awful $1500 hit, well believe it or not it does happen and it will once in a while but you must look at it in a large. It happens about 1 in 16 times out of my 241 games i have profited 14300. the chances of my getting black / green 7 times in a row is 128 to 1. (keep that in mind it has happened, just don't let it get to you) Must play strong and beet the system. It happened once to me putting me lower down in the slums it can happen to me 3 times before I loose any money. Make sure your playing hear in europe because we play only 0 not 00 and make sure you can double $ 7 times or your risk of loosing is to high.
the Marty every day and it's new and exciting all
over again.
Quote: EvenBobSomewhere in the world somebody discovers
the Marty every day and it's new and exciting all
over again.
Yes, it's exciting......umm...until it isn't anymore. Lol.
And that is what is so strange about THIS martingale episode. The OP clearly states that he has a 1 in 128 chance of losing all 7 bets, $12,700 (and by the way that 1 in 128 is assuming a true 50-50 game with no green). So he doesn't see a problem that he has had 240+ trials without experiencing this so called 1 in 128 'wipe out' trail.
It's amazing how one roulette bozo thinks his is better. Any legitimate roulette AP can be proven with math. If you can't show the math it's BS. Even roulette cheats can show their math.
Quote: GaryAiken24... once in a while but you must look at it in a large.
No. YOU must look at it in the large. It will happen more than 'once in a while' Wait for the week when you crash and burn 3, 4, 5 days in a row. Then report back. You are currently on the lucky side of the probability that you yourself calculated.
Leaving the table won't save you, because the ball will remember just as well where it landed last time, whether it's a minute ago or a week ago in a different casino. ( It won't remember at all, of course )
I watch guys like you crash and burn for real quite often. The casinos love you.
wouldn't you rather press when you are winning, than when you are losing?
Saw another guy martingaling the field for a good 6 hours, but he was fun to talk to and easy to deal to. But as soon as someone mentioned, "You know, eventually you're gonna get f***ed", not a few minutes later there were 10 non-fields in a row and he quit (table maxed), dropped a quarter and some change for a tip, and watched to see what would'a happened had he kept playing. Another 2 or 3 non-fields in a row. He took it in good stride, and said he had fun for the night. He ended up not losing too much, though, since he had hit 2 or 12 a couple times with chunky bets out there (like 7'th or 8'th level of the martingale in the field).
Saw someone playing roulette and hit 7 reds in a row, he was martingaling on black.
Seen it plenty of more times, but those were the most memorable.
And just because it's a 1 in 500 chance or whatever it is, doesn't mean it's going to happen on the 500'th time. It could happen on the first time.
It's like driving while drunk. You might only have a 0.5% chance of getting a DUI, but if you keep driving when you're drunk, eventually, you're gonna get that DUI. Mathematically, you'd expect a DUI 1 in 200 times. If a taxi costs $20, that's $4,000 in taxi prices. Compare that to the fines and payments and AA classes [well those are free] plus everything else....paying $20 for a taxi is obviously the +EV move (or lesser -EV move).
But, do what you want. Just be prepared to get slaughtered every now and then.
Quote: GaryAiken24you can see how game 236 could have been a awful $1500 hit, well believe it or not it does happen and it will once in a while but you must look at it in a large. It happens about 1 in 16 times out of my 241 games i have profited 14300. the chances of my getting black / green 7 times in a row is 128 to 1.
Actually, it's (19/37)7 = slightly less than 1/107, but that's significant, as what is happening is, the house is betting $100 at 127-1 odds (since you win $100 with each win and lose $12,700 with seven consecutive losses) on an event that happens about once every 107 times, which means the house has the advantage.
If you don't win 127 games before you lose, then you lose money in the end - and the probability of winning 127 games in a row is (1 - (19/37)7)127, which is about 30%.
(Oh, and sorry about slamming the other version of this thread, but you should not post the same thread twice - otherwise, you get two different chains of responses.)
as well as the juice to the loansharks so I can keep playing my system
Quote: SandybestdogI don't play roulette much but was walking by a table the other day when I saw 4 blacks in a row and then a green. I stood by there and watched as 6 more blacks came in a row (11 with no red). That will keep me away from any martingale for awhile. Surprisingly I didn't hear anybody mention the lack of red and start betting on it. I think baccarat tends to be less streaky and there is a winner on every hand. In roulette, just when your up to your 6th bet, a green always comes up.
So throw a few bucks on green, problem solved.
What's the juice on a hard money loan these days in Vegas? Say $10,000 for two months. Just curious. -SharkyQuote: djatcas well as the juice to the loansharks so I can keep playing my system
Quote: SandybestdogSurprisingly I didn't hear anybody mention the lack of red and start betting on it. .
11 in a row is very common, you see it
all the time. And bet with the streak,
not against it. That way you can only
lose once.
When I "discovered" the marty I felt like a genius. To be fair, I got extremely lucky, and had great runs and no losses for a few months, and I was milking all of the comps, and it was a huge rush. Then my statistics professor, showed me how foolish I was.
Humans are programmed to look for patterns. And the short term wins of the marty provide misleading positive reinforcement, and make you even more sure of yourself.
In the short term you may get lucky, and even be several thousand up, you may even keep winning for quite some time and become even further up, but if you keep doing it, you will eventually lose it all. All it takes is one extreme run of loses and all of your winnings are wiped out, you can only double so many times.
Quote: teddysWhat's the juice on a hard money loan these days in Vegas? Say $10,000 for two months. Just curious. -Sharky
If I win - about tree point fiddy percent.
If I lose - 0% I never pay them back.
Just curious: what do "Vegas" and "$" do in a subforum called "Europe / Africa" in "Gambling outside Vegas" ?Quote: teddysWhat's the juice on a hard money loan these days in Vegas? Say $10,000 for two months. Just curious. -Sharky
(Note: the OP also should know better. But he is new here.)
Quote: kubikulannJust curious: what do "Vegas" and "$" do in a subforum called "Europe / Africa" in "Gambling outside Vegas" ?
(Note: the OP also should know better. But he is new here.)
The trouble is, all of the new posts are lumped together on the "Recent Posts" list, so it's not necessarily clear in which forum the original post was made.
Occasionally, I will reply to a post in a "new" thread, only to discover that I was replying to a post made five years ago in a thread made current by somebody who did a search and replied to a long-outdated thread.
The key I've found in single zero games is to bet on a streak, one unit, pressed to two units, pressed to three units and then ride it out at three units. Keeping up with the three wagers isn't as difficult as it may seem to the naked reader. You have the Christmas tree in most casino's in Asia anyhow and all single zero games. When zero does come up, all wagers are down and you start again after the following spin.
I find you win two out of three sessions. The secret is being willing to walk away a winner or loser once your win goal(or loss limit) is achieved.
As he is about to make his last bet, just bet opposite.
I'm glad you were lucky enough to make money, however as has been eldued it's a very dangerous system to adopt. I once saw someone using the same method win the equivalent of a new car this way, only to lose it and more within a few weeks.Quote: GaryAiken24...I always do $100 - $200 - $400 - $800 - $1600 - $3200 - $6400 Done...
As you know this site tries to give mathematical analysis to games and systems, which is why the word "Martingale" is being mentioned and its downfalls explained. No honest system, expect spotting a biassed wheel or measuring the ball's speed, will beat roulette.
On Pai Gow.
I have come to the conclusion that the Martingale sucks.