Riva
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February 23rd, 2014 at 11:26:17 AM permalink
I have only been in Detroit's casinos a few times since they opened several years ago. Last winter, a pal and I stopped in the Greektown Casino after attending a Red Wing's game. That was my first time in that casino and I have to tell ya, the place is the pits compared to the MGM Grand.

Not a real big thing but, I saw something that I thought was somewhat out of character for any casino. At the Big Six wheel, the players were actually spinning the wheel. The dealer (a woman) kept her eyes on the table and, had the little table mirrors so she would not have to turn around to call the number. Plus, the table was packed. Everybody was getting off on hoot'n and hollering for the person spinning the wheel.

Obviously, this injected a element of excitement in to the game. I can see where the house would allow it because it keeps players at a game with a big HE for a longer period of time. However, it seems so contradictory to casino protocol and security where they don't even let players touch their cards in blackjack, etc. Do you think the house is putting itself at risk for allowing this practice? Again, the table was jammed with players and they were having as much fun cheering on the spinner as they were the actual game.
sodawater
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February 23rd, 2014 at 12:13:54 PM permalink
They let the players shoot the dice in craps....deal from the shoe in baccarat...i don't see any problem with this as long as it spins around a certain number of times. they could call "no spin" like a no roll in craps that didn't hit the back wall.
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February 23rd, 2014 at 12:36:24 PM permalink
I would agree. Just like on Price is Right, where the wheel has to go around 1 full time, why not let the players try a skill shot (though I would say 2x around to be safe)? If you get killed on it, don't do it again. Or have a special where, the first hour of each day, the players get to spin, in order to limit your exposure.
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February 23rd, 2014 at 12:39:53 PM permalink
from the casinos stand point I would think it would slow down the game a little.

I wonder how they determine who spins next. I have seen tables where there are literally 2 rows of people playing.
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Riva
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February 23rd, 2014 at 2:38:37 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

from the casinos stand point I would think it would slow down the game a little.

I wonder how they determine who spins next. I have seen tables where there are literally 2 rows of people playing.



I would think that a casino would be concerned for 2 reasons..(1) people standing behind the dealer with a tray/money and (2) the spinner somehow doing something on the wheel that could influence the outcome. Just seems strange but it did bring in a crowd.
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February 23rd, 2014 at 2:48:15 PM permalink
Most of these wheels are dead so it may be a good business decision to increase play. If you show me where someone can influence the wheel and bet enough to beat the HA, I would be concerned but at this point I see it as a way to increase business.
Riva
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February 23rd, 2014 at 3:14:56 PM permalink
Quote: Boz

Most of these wheels are dead so it may be a good business decision to increase play. If you show me where someone can influence the wheel and bet enough to beat the HA, I would be concerned but at this point I see it as a way to increase business.



I am looking at it from that perspective as well for our charitable gaming events. Last year, the best thing we ever did for this game was to rent stools. Previously, they had to stand and would on on after a few spins. Stools keeps players at the wheel for much, much longer--some, for hours. If we let the players spin, perhaps it will increase play AND keep players there longer yet.

Here's a pic of our brand new wheel in our gambling tent
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February 23rd, 2014 at 5:31:27 PM permalink
I have heard (heresay as I don't know any of these people personally) that APs were killing this game a few years ago by clocking the wheel. I.e., some dealers had a predictable spin. I have heard most of these opportunities are gone now.

Anyway, letting the players spin seems incredibly dumb, without some strict requirements on how many times it has to go around.
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Riva
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February 23rd, 2014 at 7:31:30 PM permalink
Quote: AcesAndEights

I have heard (heresay as I don't know any of these people personally) that APs were killing this game a few years ago by clocking the wheel. I.e., some dealers had a predictable spin. I have heard most of these opportunities are gone now.

Anyway, letting the players spin seems incredibly dumb, without some strict requirements on how many times it has to go around.



Forgive me, but what does "APs" mean? sorry
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February 23rd, 2014 at 7:35:06 PM permalink
Advantage Players, in other words, they have the edge rather than the house.
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