UTH trips bet yay or nay?
On a $10 table, you'll risk about $40/hand on average (not counting the trips bet). I'd probably bring about $1,000 to that table to make sure I could last through a 4 hour session.
Quote: mycranThanks for info .So are the Blind paytables pretty much all the same?
Yes, they are all the same. This is a major house edge driver for the game. Any significant change to the blind paytable in the player's favor could make the game +EV for the player.
Quote: mycranGoing to give UTH a go for the first time on my upcoming trip and wanted to get the opinion of regulars if you avoid this bet or place it and if you do how much? When practicing on the wizards fine game I do much better when I avoid it. Also does the Wizards game warnings use Grosjeans stratgy? How large of a bankroll will i need at lower bets to not get blown outa the water to fast?
If you're going to play it in Reno (which is what I assume).
1.) Do NOT play the "trips" bet, it's bad payback everywhere.
2.) Do NOT listen to other players or dealers; if you play CORRECTLY you'll be berated and told "You're a fool."
3.) Play it at Eldorado, as it's hand-shuffled and dealt like a real Hold-Em' game, rather than in "card packs" like a shuffle machine does...
4.) Do NOT listen to other players or dealers; if you play CORRECTLY you'll be berated and told "You're a fool."
Quote: tringlomaneYeah, correct strategy makes you look like a maniac. Roger was such a genius with this game.
True...considering how rare it is to see people bet 4x...99% of the time, they check all the way though...SOOOOOMETIMES they bet 3x (with like AA/KK/QQ/JJ)
I watched a guy with KK put 3x (he had $125 blinds; so he put $375 on the raise) and the dealer turns over 2-5 to make the wheel....further strengthening ever raising 4x (he lost $625 in one shot right there)
Quote: TIMSPEEDTrue...considering how rare it is to see people bet 4x...99% of the time, they check all the way though...SOOOOOMETIMES they bet 3x (with like AA/KK/QQ/JJ)
And simultaneously betting at $5, $10 or even higher on Trips.
Quote: mycranYes TIMSPEED I will be playing in Reno,do they allow using a strategy card at the table? I have the preflop down pretty good but after that only about 80-90%.Thats using the wizards practice game.I have no problem lookin the fool,happens when I use BS in BJ all the time.
Generally any strategy card is allowed. They may not let you physically lay it on the table, but you should be able to have it in your lap for reference.
"Otherwise, bet only if you have a 4-Flush AND: pocket 22 or a suited Ten or higher in hand"
My question is in relation to the suited Ten or higher in hand. Does that mean both my hole cards need to be suited to match two of the same suit on the board - such as T3s - or should I also bet if I only have the Ten in my hand of a suit that matches a monochrome flop?
It means if you have one ten in your hand that is included in the 4 card flush.It does not have to be suited with the other card in your hand.Quote: FunkyDoctorSpeaking of strategy cards, I use the Grosjean strategy for UTH and am seeking a clarification on one of the rules for betting after the flop. The rule states:
"Otherwise, bet only if you have a 4-Flush AND: pocket 22 or a suited Ten or higher in hand"
My question is in relation to the suited Ten or higher in hand. Does that mean both my hole cards need to be suited to match two of the same suit on the board - such as T3s - or should I also bet if I only have the Ten in my hand of a suit that matches a monochrome flop?
Blind Bet of 1-2-3-12-35-100 is fairly close if I did the math right.
The 500:1 Blind-Bet payoff on the Royal is too high IMHO to provide a comparable Side-Bet... why bother?
I would prefer a "Flop Bet" as a Side-Bet using the Flop + Pocket for the award. Dollah for a Hollah.
Ace-Ace 2:1
Two-Pair 5:1
Trips 10:1
Straight 25:1
Flush 40:1
Full House 60:1
Quads 200:1
Str-Fl 800:1
Royal Str-Fl 4000:1
