Online maximum bet limits

I often get offers to play loss rebates that are only good for playing one specific online game. Other times I am allowed to select from a handful of games from one vendor (probably a vendor that is sponsoring the promotion). I generally have a low opinion of the intelligence of online slot directors. However, one casino picked a slot game for their periodic loss rebate promo that had a max bet of $6. This is really low. The max bet for most slots is usually $50 to $500. I interpret this as a sign that the slot director was actually thinking about controlling their exposure to the loss rebate in an intelligent way.

This was further confirmed to me last month when this same casino offered a separate loss rebate every day for week. By Tuesday, the max bet on the slot was lowered from $50 to $4 per spin! The same casino also lowered the max bet from $50 to $10 on a different slot that was very good for meeting wagering requirements. This was a smart, but terrible for me. I have no idea whether my play was specifically responsible for these actions, but it is a possibility.

One of my favorite games is a slot where the rating of the game is not aligned with the RTP. That is, the casino gives many more tier points for this particular game than for other games in the same range of RTP. This discrepancy would be exploitable for promos with tier point targets. Sadly, the site that has the best such promos has a $5 max bet for this game. The game was available at other sites with a $25 max bet. Even $25 is too low for my purposes, and I don't play the game much.

At some point last month, I opened this slot and started playing. Then I realized that the bet was set to 20 cents. This is odd because the sites usually remember the bet level of the last session and most slots will reopen set to that same bet level. When I tried to increase my bet, I realized that the new max bet level was configured to be $100. I checked the software version. Apparently the game manufacturer had pushed a new software version to this site. I was beside myself with joy. I started playing at a max bet and happened to hit the maximum possible jackpot payout within 10 minutes. I also won $5000 from a leaderboard at that site. This would have been physically impossible at prior betting limits. I simply could not have earned enough points to get on the leaderboard, much less win a major prize. The game in question plays ten times slower than some of the fastest slots in my online world.

I started checking out the same game at other sites, and the new software update has been pushed to about half of them. Today I was playing the game at max bet at another site and I hit the second highest jackpot within 10 minutes. It might have been better for me to hit several smaller jackpots, but that is out of my control. I half expect some slot directors to look at the game at some point and drop the max bet, especially at sites where I smacked them pretty good. After all, they probably never explicitly made the decision to raise the betting limits on the game. It was just the side effect of the software update.

The bottom line is that I netted over $50K in a few weeks on this one game simply by having a run of good luck. I am hoping that the new software load is pushed out to all of my online casinos because it will be my new game of choice for certain promotions.

Are these sites ‘US based’ or ‘overseas’?

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Are these sites ‘US based’ or ‘overseas’?
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It is hard to say. There is so much cross licensing of games and with all the recent M&A, the ownership structure of online casinos is really complicated. Most online casinos are effectively owned by global corporations. I play at a Virgin Group casino. Is it US or UK based? I have no clue.

Fanduel is based in New York with offices in California, New Jersey, Florida, Oregon, Georgia, Portugal, Romania and Scotland. I would have no way of knowing where the slot director is located. That is the person who is calling the shots on game inventory and betting limits.

Most of the games that I play were probably developed in the US. I trust most big-name vendors, but I am suspicious of AGS and Everi games. Everi operates globally but is headquartered in Las Vegas. I believe AGS has Aussie roots.

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Most of the games that I play were probably developed in the US. I trust most big-name vendors, but I am suspicious of AGS and Everi games. Everi operates globally but is headquartered in Las Vegas. I believe AGS has Aussie roots.

I read yesterday that IGT and Everi are merging

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Most of the games that I play were probably developed in the US. I trust most big-name vendors, but I am suspicious of AGS and Everi games. Everi operates globally but is headquartered in Las Vegas. I believe AGS has Aussie roots.

I read yesterday that IGT and Everi are merging
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Under the terms of the agreements, at closing, IGT shareholders are expected to own approximately 54% and Everi stockholders are expected to own approximately 46% of the shares in the combined company.

I would have guessed that Everi was no more than a third of the value of IGT, but this is close to a merger of equals.

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Most of the games that I play were probably developed in the US. I trust most big-name vendors, but I am suspicious of AGS and Everi games. Everi operates globally but is headquartered in Las Vegas. I believe AGS has Aussie roots.

I read yesterday that IGT and Everi are merging
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Under the terms of the agreements, at closing, IGT shareholders are expected to own approximately 54% and Everi stockholders are expected to own approximately 46% of the shares in the combined company.

I would have guessed that Everi was no more than a third of the value of IGT, but this is close to a merger of equals. Neither company will let you set their games to auto-play more than 50 games, which pisses me off. Everi's game controls are much more uniform than IGT's, but uniformly bad in my opinion.

The vast majority of changes that I notice online casinos making are unfavorable to the player. My main casino just nuked two of the games that I had been using to meet wagering requirements. Play on these games used to count 100%, and today they only count for 20%. This makes a 10x WR equivalent to a 50x wagering requirement. This change was not disclosed in the terms of the promotion. That is sort of like changing a BJ payout to 6:5 and not changing the numbers on the felt. I expect that the terms will eventually be updated for future promotions.

The decisions or mistakes of some anonymous manager can ruin my day or make me quite happy.

Hang on and just roll with it, baby.

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Most of the games that I play were probably developed in the US. I trust most big-name vendors, but I am suspicious of AGS and Everi games. Everi operates globally but is headquartered in Las Vegas. I believe AGS has Aussie roots.

I read yesterday that IGT and Everi are merging
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Under the terms of the agreements, at closing, IGT shareholders are expected to own approximately 54% and Everi stockholders are expected to own approximately 46% of the shares in the combined company.

I would have guessed that Everi was no more than a third of the value of IGT, but this is close to a merger of equals.
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I haven't followed Everi in the last few years but they used to make most of their money from financial products not just gaming equipment.

Mike Rumbolz who runs Everi is a great guy that I used to get along with greatly when he was CEO of Anchor Gaming.

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Most of the games that I play were probably developed in the US. I trust most big-name vendors, but I am suspicious of AGS and Everi games. Everi operates globally but is headquartered in Las Vegas. I believe AGS has Aussie roots.

I read yesterday that IGT and Everi are merging
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damn everi and their kiosk ducks... yes i meant ducks not any other word

yeah damn ducks ... i also assume their ducks are in the slot machines as well because its what is said on their website

dont mind me im ranting in a secret way that no one can ever understand... now IGT owns the ducks

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Most of the games that I play were probably developed in the US. I trust most big-name vendors, but I am suspicious of AGS and Everi games. Everi operates globally but is headquartered in Las Vegas. I believe AGS has Aussie roots.

I read yesterday that IGT and Everi are merging
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damn everi and their kiosk ducks... yes i meant ducks not any other word

yeah damn ducks ... i also assume their ducks are in the slot machines as well because its what is said on their website

dont mind me im ranting in a secret way that no one can ever understand... now IGT owns the ducks
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This what the original cool ducks of casino gaming.



That was the first Wide Area Progressive to compete with Megabucks. I worked on it back in the 1990's.

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Most of the games that I play were probably developed in the US. I trust most big-name vendors, but I am suspicious of AGS and Everi games. Everi operates globally but is headquartered in Las Vegas. I believe AGS has Aussie roots.

I read yesterday that IGT and Everi are merging
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damn everi and their kiosk ducks... yes i meant ducks not any other word

yeah damn ducks ... i also assume their ducks are in the slot machines as well because its what is said on their website

dont mind me im ranting in a secret way that no one can ever understand... now IGT owns the ducks
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This what the original cool ducks of casino gaming.



That was the first Wide Area Progressive to compete with Megabucks. I worked on it back in the 1990's.
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i wish my life was combined with your life. it seems so interesting that you've done this stuff. i hate to call it stuff but i have a small brain. i know its much more than stuff. i never regret the things ive done in my life except that i could do more. this is the more stuff i want to do its just cool as hell.