DJGenius
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October 29th, 2019 at 7:41:54 AM permalink
I'm sure this is something that has been discussed many times, and I did do a search on the forums first.

It seems there is contradictory information out there. Many websites which contain lots of general gambling info seem to suggest that you will not get banned for winning, providing the casino is regulated and you are abiding within the terms and conditions of the site.

I'm sure there are anecdotal cases of people getting banned when they felt they shouldn't have.

My question is this: is it worth deliberately keeping your winning sessions within a certain margin, say 1 standard deviation?
Or deliberately losing once in a while?

How much "winning" would an online casino chalk up to "normal luck" and at what point would they be more likely to shut you down.

Any advice on this topic is appreciated.
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October 29th, 2019 at 7:53:01 AM permalink
Quote: DJGenius


My question is this: is it worth deliberately keeping your winning sessions within a certain margin, say 1 standard deviation?
Or deliberately losing once in a while?

I've found that just a few hundred of winnings can see me excluded from getting bonuses. Taking a few thousand a month from legitimately taking offers can then see my account shut down.
But just winning steadily and long term within a few SD of normal draws no heat for a long time.
Deliberately losing once in a while is a bad idea unless you have been coining it from bonus exploits.
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DJGenius
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October 29th, 2019 at 10:50:20 AM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

Deliberately losing once in a while is a bad idea unless you have been coining it from bonus exploits.



You mean in terms of the impact to your own bottom line? Or in terms of drawing too much attention from the casino?

So you think a few thousand a month is too much to get away with then? I wonder if it depends on how much you’re wagering...

Thanks BTW for the reply!
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October 29th, 2019 at 11:12:09 AM permalink
Quote: DJGenius

You mean in terms of the impact to your own bottom line? Or in terms of drawing too much attention from the casino?

So you think a few thousand a month is too much to get away with then? I wonder if it depends on how much you’re wagering...

Thanks BTW for the reply!




Lots depends on the casino. However if you always win no casino online or land will allow you to play forever.
50-50-90 Rule: Anytime you have a 50-50 chance of getting something right, there is a 90% probability you'll get it wrong
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October 29th, 2019 at 11:43:30 AM permalink
Quote: DJGenius

You mean in terms of the impact to your own bottom line? Or in terms of drawing too much attention from the casino?

So you think a few thousand a month is too much to get away with then? I wonder if it depends on how much you’re wagering...

Thanks BTW for the reply!

To reiterate: If what you are taking from them is basically derived from bonuses, then just $500 profit might see you excluded from future bonuses. You might get away with much more, but again, they'll close down your bonuses, not your account.
It takes A LOT more conspicuous winning to actually get banned.
Being lucky and winning without taking bonuses is pretty well tolerated by the places I've played.

I've heard of members of a mainstream online casino getting banned for winning a modest amount by Martingaling with a big bankroll at risk. That strikes me as pretty dumb by the casino.

Deliberately losing will hurt your bottom line and might not keep you off their radar.
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October 29th, 2019 at 12:12:38 PM permalink
Tell us how you are winning before anyone can remotely guess to answer your vague question. Taking advantage of bonuses? Taking advantage of a loss rebate opportunity? Taking advantage of a time limited special rule (BJ pays 3-1). Just lucky at a certain game? Or you found a glitch that is exploitable? What is your average bet? Etc....
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October 29th, 2019 at 1:49:46 PM permalink
I apologize if my vagueness rubbed you the wrong way. For obvious reasons I would rather not spell it out on a public forum.

It does not involve bonuses, promotions, or special rules.

I have no doubt I have been experiencing some good luck so far and that could be part of it. How much is due to luck time will tell.

I am not playing with anything I am not willing to lose.

I am betting 1% of my bankroll for now, I started small with $1 bets to see how things would work. I am now just past $13. So that is the reason for the question. If these results continue, I could be looking at something substantial. I want to avoid setting off their radar for as long as possible.

If more information than that will help you to answer the question, I could PM it to you.
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October 29th, 2019 at 2:23:37 PM permalink
Quote: DJGenius

I apologize if my vagueness rubbed you the wrong way. For obvious reasons I would rather not spell it out on a public forum.

It does not involve bonuses, promotions, or special rules.

I have no doubt I have been experiencing some good luck so far and that could be part of it. How much is due to luck time will tell.

I am not playing with anything I am not willing to lose.

I am betting 1% of my bankroll for now, I started small with $1 bets to see how things would work. I am now just past $13. So that is the reason for the question. If these results continue, I could be looking at something substantial. I want to avoid setting off their radar for as long as possible.

If more information than that will help you to answer the question, I could PM it to you.



So it seems you found a 'glitch', which to me signifies some exploitable aspect that the on line casino would not allow if it was aware of it. And if they found out that is how you won, they would just not pay you. If you are now up more than $1k I would try to withdraw and see what happens.
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October 29th, 2019 at 3:37:43 PM permalink
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So it seems you found a 'glitch', which to me signifies some exploitable aspect that the on line casino would not allow if it was aware of it. And if they found out that is how you won, they would just not pay you. If you are now up more than $1k I would try to withdraw and see what happens.

Definitely establish that your initial withdrawal gets honoured smoothly.
Take care out there. Spare a thought for the newly poor who were happy in their world just a few days ago, but whose whole way of life just collapsed..
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October 29th, 2019 at 5:57:14 PM permalink
Thanks for the advice.
"The Quest stands upon the edge of a knife. Stray but a little, and it will fail, to the ruin of all." - Elf Queen Galadriel, teaching Frodo about the importance of blackjack basic strategy.

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