Martingale is Cheating. As is card counting
"Martingale betting stategies" is defined as a "fraudulent or unlawful activity" by this casino. So is "card counting!"
So are other "low risk strategies !!!"
I just had reason to revisit the rules of what used to be my preferred online casino ( until they chucked me out )
They have a rule that basically says that if they deem your wagering to be "fraudulent or unlawful", they will close your account and you will forfeit any balance of deposits and winnings still in the account. They cite a few examples of such "fraudulent or unlawful" activities.
Chargebacks (fair enough)
Collusion (fair enough)
Card Counting ( Whoa )
Martingale betting strategies ( WTF )
in roulette such as betting on red/black in equal amounts. ( I kid you not )
Here is a link to the entire rules.
https://www.888.com/security-and-privacy/user-agreement-uk.htm#par1
And here's the bit about fraudulent activities (bolding is mine)
Quote: 888 casino rules
The following are some examples of "fraudulent or unlawful activity":
Illegal Funds: Where the source of funds used by you for gambling on the Sites are illegal or where you use the Services in any way as a money transfer system or where we reasonably suspect that you may be engaging in money laundering activities, including use of the proceeds of crime.
Unfair Betting Techniques: Utilising any recognised betting techniques to circumvent the standard house edge in our games, which includes but is not limited to martingale betting strategies, card counting as well as low risk betting in roulette such as betting on red/black in equal amounts.
Idiots!
Does anyone know if the casinos they are affiliated with in NJ have the same rules?Quote: OnceDearLOL. It's official.
"Martingale betting stategies" is defined as a "fraudulent or unlawful activity" by this casino. So is "card counting!"
So are other "low risk strategies !!!"
I just had reason to revisit the rules of what used to be my preferred online casino ( until they chucked me out )
They have a rule that basically says that if they deem your wagering to be "fraudulent or unlawful", they will close your account and you will forfeit any balance of deposits and winnings still in the account. They cite a few examples of such "fraudulent or unlawful" activities.
Chargebacks (fair enough)
Collusion (fair enough)
Card Counting ( Whoa )
Martingale betting strategies ( WTF )
in roulette such as betting on red/black in equal amounts. ( I kid you not )
Here is a link to the entire rules.
https://www.888.com/security-and-privacy/user-agreement-uk.htm#par1
And here's the bit about fraudulent activities (bolding is mine)Quote: 888 casino rules
The following are some examples of "fraudulent or unlawful activity":
Illegal Funds: Where the source of funds used by you for gambling on the Sites are illegal or where you use the Services in any way as a money transfer system or where we reasonably suspect that you may be engaging in money laundering activities, including use of the proceeds of crime.
Unfair Betting Techniques: Utilising any recognised betting techniques to circumvent the standard house edge in our games, which includes but is not limited to martingale betting strategies, card counting as well as low risk betting in roulette such as betting on red/black in equal amounts.
Idiots!
Payouts http://www.ecogra.org/certificates/certificate.aspx?cid=311
notice craps: is that a clerical error?
Quote: odiousgambitif it is true that even in the UK, where online gambling is not prohibited at all [right?], that this kind of BS passes for being OK with regulatory authority, .......... I'm going to disappoint Mission here............ my resolution to never gamble online feels very much re-affirmed!
Brick and mortar casinos consider betting both sides in roulette cheating as well. Organic is touting that their e-roulette machines refuse low-volatility bets and i can confírm this. Even betting every straight up number or a preponderance (still gambling but with only a few numbers uncovered) or both sides with an offset (betting $50 on red and $100 on black) is refused
Of course its because the casinos are scared of comps hustling
And of course any comps hustler needs only think 2 seconds to figure out how to overcome this.
So stupid is as stupid does
Hint: to overcome it use 2 people. Duh!
Quote: darkozQuote: odiousgambitif it is true that even in the UK, where online gambling is not prohibited at all [right?], that this kind of BS passes for being OK with regulatory authority, .......... I'm going to disappoint Mission here............ my resolution to never gamble online feels very much re-affirmed!
Brick and mortar casinos consider betting both sides in roulette cheating as well.
Please somehow show an example of this. If I am a casino this eliminates variance, thus GUARANTEEING a win for the casino. Since I know my house edge is around 5%, unless someone puts a blocker in the 0 and 00 slots, the casino can only win, and NEVER be down.
While that's true, it's also easy for a floorman to adjust the comp rate if you're on both sides of a bet. Ditto for electronic platforms.
There are two other more important reasons casinos object to betting both sides:
1 - In B&M casinos, you're taking up space. And beeping dealers busy on a low profit betting system.
2 - You can change the minimums. For example, if you bet $30 on pass, $25 on don't and $1 on boxcars, you've effectively turned a $25 table into a $6 table.
Since online casinos should be able to program the comp system better, and doesn't care about keeping seats open for big bettors, and should have micro limits, I can't see why they would object to betting both sides.
Until you realize that they also don't allow Martingaling.
Since anyone with at least half a brain knows that Martingale is a casino's best friend, it doesn't surprise me that if they're not allowing that, then they also don't allow betting both sides.
Bottom line, this casino need to have a talk with someone who understands the math.
I played on an online casino "888" a long time ago, but I also know that's where a lot of teliots articles went/etc. Is 888 the online casino that does this? You should absolutely NAME them so no one ever plays with them. Pure morons... To boot it sounds like they're just setting up the T's and C's so they can steal your money.Quote: OnceDearLOL. It's official.
"Martingale betting stategies" is defined as a "fraudulent or unlawful activity" by this casino. So is "card counting!"
So are other "low risk strategies !!!"
I just had reason to revisit the rules of what used to be my preferred online casino ( until they chucked me out )
They have a rule that basically says that if they deem your wagering to be "fraudulent or unlawful", they will close your account and you will forfeit any balance of deposits and winnings still in the account. They cite a few examples of such "fraudulent or unlawful" activities.
Chargebacks (fair enough)
Collusion (fair enough)
Card Counting ( Whoa )
Martingale betting strategies ( WTF )
in roulette such as betting on red/black in equal amounts. ( I kid you not )
Here is a link to the entire rules.
https://www.888.com/security-and-privacy/user-agreement-uk.htm#par1
And here's the bit about fraudulent activities (bolding is mine)Quote: 888 casino rules
The following are some examples of "fraudulent or unlawful activity":
Illegal Funds: Where the source of funds used by you for gambling on the Sites are illegal or where you use the Services in any way as a money transfer system or where we reasonably suspect that you may be engaging in money laundering activities, including use of the proceeds of crime.
Unfair Betting Techniques: Utilising any recognised betting techniques to circumvent the standard house edge in our games, which includes but is not limited to martingale betting strategies, card counting as well as low risk betting in roulette such as betting on red/black in equal amounts.
Idiots!
Quote: DJTeddyBearUntil you realize that they also don't allow Martingaling.
Since anyone with at least half a brain knows that Martingale is a casino's best friend, it doesn't surprise me that if they're not allowing that, then they also don't allow betting both sides.
Bottom line, this casino need to have a talk with someone who understands the math.
It's all the more amusing that this very same casino hosts a blog where they encourage card counting...
https://www.888casino.com/blog/card-counting-trainer
I could understand if they objected to the low variance betting in conjunction with bonuses. But it sure is never "fraudulent or unlawful" activities, as per there rules.
Quote: SOOPOOQuote: darkozQuote: odiousgambitif it is true that even in the UK, where online gambling is not prohibited at all [right?], that this kind of BS passes for being OK with regulatory authority, .......... I'm going to disappoint Mission here............ my resolution to never gamble online feels very much re-affirmed!
Brick and mortar casinos consider betting both sides in roulette cheating as well.
Please somehow show an example of this. If I am a casino this eliminates variance, thus GUARANTEEING a win for the casino. Since I know my house edge is around 5%, unless someone puts a blocker in the 0 and 00 slots, the casino can only win, and NEVER be down.
I already did
Go to your b&m casino that has organic machines e-roulette and bet both red and black. Your bet is returned to you no action
If thats not evidence enough i dont know what is
Quote: darkozQuote: SOOPOOQuote: darkozQuote: odiousgambitif it is true that even in the UK, where online gambling is not prohibited at all [right?], that this kind of BS passes for being OK with regulatory authority, .......... I'm going to disappoint Mission here............ my resolution to never gamble online feels very much re-affirmed!
Brick and mortar casinos consider betting both sides in roulette cheating as well.
Please somehow show an example of this. If I am a casino this eliminates variance, thus GUARANTEEING a win for the casino. Since I know my house edge is around 5%, unless someone puts a blocker in the 0 and 00 slots, the casino can only win, and NEVER be down.
I already did
Go to your b&m casino that has organic machines e-roulette and bet both red and black. Your bet is returned to you no action
If thats not evidence enough i dont know what is
To me that is evidence of a STUPID casino.
