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Zuga
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July 4th, 2016 at 4:34:34 AM permalink
Hi WoV'ers, be warned!

our sister site CasinoListings.com has issued a warning related to Betsoft software progressives. Read why: https://www.casinolistings.com/news/2016/06/warning-avoid-all-betsoft-slots-and-casino-games
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July 4th, 2016 at 7:13:23 AM permalink
"Lastly, we wish to make it clear that we do not believe that Bovada, Slots.lv, or any other casinos running these games, are responsible for these discrepancies."

Can you explain more why the casino and the betsoft would not both be reliable?

Isn't the casino profiting from this? Shouldn't the players who played at BV and Slots LV on betsofts games get a refund from BV and SlotsLV, and then BV can go after Betsoft?

Can someone explain how it is that Bovada and Slots LV didn't notice the games were holding a higher percentage than they should have been?

I think its the casinos responsibility to make sure the software they are using is fair to it's players.

They should pay the players all their losses on them games and then sue betsoft.
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July 4th, 2016 at 8:31:20 AM permalink
So are ALL games on Bovada run by BetSoft? If so, does that mean Bovada is no longer recommended? If it's a mix, how do we tell what games are, and what games aren't BetSoft games?
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July 4th, 2016 at 8:42:21 AM permalink
Bovada/Slots.lv did the right thing immediately and removed all progressive jackpot games from their sites.
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July 4th, 2016 at 8:44:47 AM permalink
That is some great reporting! BetSoft is a big player in this business so it took a lot of courage to go after them. My compliments on a very well-documented case.
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July 4th, 2016 at 9:57:55 AM permalink
Quote: Zuga

Bovada/Slots.lv did the right thing immediately and removed all progressive jackpot games from their sites.



Does Bovada/Slots.lv offer other Betsoft games? If so, wouldn't it be prudent for you to suggest people don't play at either of their sites until all Betsoft games are removed? Once they prove that that all the games are fair Bovada/Slots.lv could put them back on the site. it is reasonable to assume other games have similar issues until a complete audit is done on all games.
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July 4th, 2016 at 10:05:04 AM permalink
What advantages does Betsoft have by selling rigged software - besides the obvious of increasedsales to scrupulous casinos? The casino running the software seems to get all the benefits. Ultimately didn't Bovada steal players money by not awarding jackpots?
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July 4th, 2016 at 10:09:42 AM permalink
Quote: DRich

Does Bovada/Slots.lv offer other Betsoft games? If so, wouldn't it be prudent for you to suggest people don't play at either of their sites until all Betsoft games are removed? Once they prove that that all the games are fair Bovada/Slots.lv could put them back on the site. it is reasonable to assume other games have similar issues until a complete audit is done on all games.

No less than 50 of their most popular slot games are made by betsoft and many of them also have progressives on them. I would say a majority of their slots are bet soft, not to mention keno and scratch cards.
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July 5th, 2016 at 1:36:59 PM permalink
So we hear about slow and no payouts and now there is rigged software on the site. How do 2 recent events not make this site not recommended.
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July 5th, 2016 at 3:51:48 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

So we hear about slow and no payouts and now there is rigged software on the site. How do 2 recent events not make this site not recommended.

They haven't stolen any software yet.
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