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AxelWolf
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January 17th, 2015 at 5:05:16 AM permalink
Quote: sc15

Not sure why they bother w/ all that crap.

in the USA. If you do a chargeback (and you should if you lose) they have no recourse since they're a criminal enterprise.


Because it could be a +EV. People have made spectacular amounts of money online with positive EV situations. The risk can be well worth the reward.

I see no difference in charging back and welching on a bet.

Speeding is illegal to, and unless you're going to write yourself a ticket next time you speed or break a law then NVM if the are "They are operating ILLEGALLY in the USA" (if that's even true) Perhaps your participation on this site is hypothetical since the entire existence of this site is built on advertising what you claim is a criminal enterprise.

Some people think Card counting is unethical and technically cheating. Everybody has their own morals.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
pdazzle
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January 18th, 2015 at 6:22:27 AM permalink
Yeah, I was the impetus for ted making this post. I am trying Las Vegas USA. Currently up solidly. It took about 20 hours to put in the 200K playthrough on holdem bonus for the $2k initial deposit with 3K bonus . The documentation they require for verification for withdrawal isn't as intrusive as the site makes it seem (can black out much of the revealing info on the CC/ID scans etc.) My documents got "approved" quickly, so now we'll just see how good they are about their approximately 2 week turnaround. Is there any interest in updates on this? Also, if anyone here is on the BB forums, can you PM me? I'd love to trade info and earn access to their private forum.
AxelWolf
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January 18th, 2015 at 6:40:34 AM permalink
Quote: pdazzle

Yeah, I was the impetus for ted making this post. I am trying Las Vegas USA. Currently up solidly. It took about 20 hours to put in the 200K playthrough on holdem bonus for the $2k initial deposit with 3K bonus . The documentation they require for verification for withdrawal isn't as intrusive as the site makes it seem (can black out much of the revealing info on the CC/ID scans etc.) My documents got "approved" quickly, so now we'll just see how good they are about their approximately 2 week turnaround. Is there any interest in updates on this? Also, if anyone here is on the BB forums, can you PM me? I'd love to trade info and earn access to their private forum.

excuse my ignorance what's BB forums?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
pdazzle
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January 18th, 2015 at 4:19:19 PM permalink
beating bonuses, it's a community about online AP gambling. I didn't know if it was ok to mention other forums on here outright.
teddys
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April 11th, 2015 at 10:23:34 PM permalink
Okay. I can't believe I actually went through with this crap. I have a lot of time on my hands, I guess. I signed up for the casino using the WIZARDBONUS referral which is ELEVEN (!) $1,000 match bonuses for every $1,000 in cash you deposit. It takes a while to deposit. You can only deposit $500 at a time, and you have to wait an hour in between deposits. Credit cards are often rejected. I had to use multiple cards. It's something of a hassle. Then, we you have deposited $1,000, you chat with the customer service rep to get them to apply the BONUS coupon.

I played Texas Hold 'Em bonus for $100 a hand to play through the bonuses. You can't play blackjack or a bunch of other table games like roulette or craps. The wagering requirement is 40 times deposit+bonus. I busted out of every deposit I made. I think I ran one up to $6600 or so, but lost it all back. In retrospect I should have tried to recapture some of those gains. I finished my last bonus with a balance of $4800.

I haven't cashed out anything yet, so I can't speak to how efficient they are with that. They want me to send in scanned copies of my ID, cards, and a utility bill. The maximum check amount for payouts is $2500.

I would say just about everything about the process is about 35x times inferior to how Bovada runs things. The only thing that was comparable was the software, which ran fine. The game seemed fair although I didn't do any comprehensive analysis of that.
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Deserture
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April 27th, 2015 at 9:54:52 AM permalink
Nice casino. I played there and won 300 or 400$, just forget. Pretty service.
teddys
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April 29th, 2015 at 5:17:54 PM permalink
I just asked for my first withdrawal from Las Vegas USA. I'm in for $13,000 and I asked for $5,000 worth of withdrawals, which is my entire balance. It's a major hassle. I had to scan credit cards, send them my gas bill, copy my ID, etc. And now they have suddenly become incommunicado. I will keep you updated on the results. Supposedly they do ACH transfers to U.S. bank accounts.
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terapined
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April 29th, 2015 at 5:45:07 PM permalink
Quote: teddys

I just asked for my first withdrawal from Las Vegas USA. I'm in for $13,000 and I asked for $5,000 worth of withdrawals, which is my entire balance. It's a major hassle. I had to scan credit cards, send them my gas bill, copy my ID, etc. And now they have suddenly become incommunicado. I will keep you updated on the results. Supposedly they do ACH transfers to U.S. bank accounts.



Send Zuga an IM regarding this.
He may be able to help.
He helped resolve a Bovada issue with a member but that was peanuts compared to the amounts you are owed.
Please keep us updated.
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soxfan
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April 29th, 2015 at 6:22:56 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I think places like BV are actually better value for some gamblers than B&M.



Yer jokin, right, hey hey!
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AxelWolf
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April 30th, 2015 at 4:32:48 AM permalink
Quote: soxfan

Yer jokin, right, hey hey!

Absolutely not. There's actually an advantage to be had. They have better odds on many games than some casinos plus bonuses.

I have been to casinos with nothing better than 7/5 JOB and no promotions.

The BJ isn't 6 to 5 at BV like some casinos.

its hard to $1 BJ (and other table games) at a casino especially with bonuses and other promotions and cash back.

If you don't think people win at BV you're coconuts :-)

Then again you do play the game of baccarat.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪

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