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January 22nd, 2021 at 2:25:17 PM permalink
Quote: MichaelBluejay

If you’ve held any appreciable amount of BTC since 2016 or earlier, you could sell and retire in comfort. Why wouldn’t you?



So full of fallacy, so void of logic and epistemology.
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January 22nd, 2021 at 2:48:37 PM permalink
Everyone I know who claimed that he would retire when he had X dollars, is well past that breakwater point, and is working harder than ever. I like what I do, and I don't do just one thing, why would I ever retire? I probably "work" less than most but that's because I'm very efficient. I can find time for important things and for unimportant things, and devote the same level of effort to each, and won't let go until each task is completed.
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January 22nd, 2021 at 3:04:22 PM permalink
So if you win a million dollars on less than 200 trades in the year, Coinbase won't send you a 1099-K. Does that mean the IRS will never hear about you as long as you never do more than 199 trades a year? You could get by on 16 trades or less a month, right?
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January 22nd, 2021 at 3:11:24 PM permalink
I looked it up: I received 81 BTC between 12/16 and 5/17. Would have been worth $2.7M today, had I held it.

That actually wasn't my biggest financial mistake. In late 1997 I sold Apple stock for $60k, that I'd paid $40k for. Would be worth $7.4M today.
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January 22nd, 2021 at 3:20:23 PM permalink
Wasn't Apple losing to Microsoft after Windows 98 came out? Didn't Windows make up about 80%-90% of PC's out there?
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January 22nd, 2021 at 3:38:55 PM permalink
I looked at the Bluejay website once. I recall thinking that there were any number of things on there that could be monetized heavily. For example that How to Buy a House thing - there are guys who write up guides not much more detailed than that, and have teams of telemarketers pushing it for a grand a pop, and then get the buyers (suckers) to buy more expensive packages, come to seminars, etc. Relatively small entities like that are raking in a half million gross a month. It just comes down to how hungry you are and how far you're willing to push things.

If anything, I'm generally not hungry, and pretty complacent. I work all day, but I also find time to goof off, such as on these forums. I go through cycles though when I'll push some new project to the max, and then other times when I'll just stick with what I'm doing and nothing new.

As far as stocks, most of us traded a given goldmine stock until we finally "got it" and hodled.
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January 22nd, 2021 at 4:25:07 PM permalink
Quote: MichaelBluejay

If you’ve held any appreciable amount of BTC since 2016 or earlier, you could sell and retire in comfort. Why wouldn’t you?

You can't retire on fiction, unless you get paid to write fiction.

IIRC he said he got into BTC in 2010 or close to that.
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January 22nd, 2021 at 5:18:02 PM permalink
If I had bitcoin for every time this guy feels compelled to talk sh*t about me, I'd have...even more bitcoin than I already do!
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January 22nd, 2021 at 5:51:44 PM permalink
Quote: MDawg

If I had bitcoin for every time this guy feels compelled to talk sh*t about me, I'd have...even more bitcoin than I already do!

LOL.

Said the guy who has repeatedly posted up screen shots of the exact same lame post I made. So much so that.... many other members got sick of it and called you out.


You started multiple threads about me on more than one forum. Apparently, you even discuss me on your own defunct forum(did you start a thread about me there too?) You even made me the Co-star of your own adventures.
You attempted to Dox me by quoting a mysterious new member that suddenly showed up on a forum just to do that( Many suspect it was your own sock puppet) You quoted it more than once and the timing was suspiciously odd. luckily for you, it was bogus info, but you didn't know that. You have been suspended here for attempted Doxing.

One of your latest gems: Just the other day, you took the time and effort to take screenshots and and quotes of about 40 to 50 different things you could find where someone said anything negative about me, mostly the same
few people. Guys like Freddy, one of the biggest trolls ever, a guy who has said absolutely horrible things about many of the people on this forum, including Mike(Freddy, your buddy). You then compiled them and posted them up. WHO DOES THAT????For that matter, Who does any of that?
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January 22nd, 2021 at 6:26:19 PM permalink
Scroll back. I posted about my experience with bitcoin, posing a serious question to Bluejay and you and your buddy PokerGrinder came in and started talking sh*t. OnceDear's sarcastic playacting was along the same lines. The three of you. That's all there is to it. Here in this thread, you three were incapable of just letting someone ask a serious question and had to come in and stir sh*t with your sh*t talking agendas, to varying degrees.
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January 22nd, 2021 at 7:02:10 PM permalink
Quote: MDawg

Scroll back. I posted about my experience with bitcoin, posing a serious question to Bluejay and you and your buddy PokerGrinder came in and started talking sh*t. OnceDear's sarcastic playacting was along the same lines. The three of you. That's all there is to it. Here in this thread, you three were incapable of just letting someone ask a serious question and had to come in and stir sh*t with your sh*t talking agendas, to varying degrees.

But many of those things I'm mentioned happened BEFORE THIS.

And that supposed experience was so far out in left that it should be considered misinformation and flat out wrong. It could potentially be financially dangerous to someone who knows nothing about BTC. It needed to be called out, questioned and corrected.


I'm still wondering, WHO/WHAT TYPE OF PERSON DOES ALL THAT I MENTIONED ABOVE? And then has the balls to call that person out, someone who's guilty of 100 times worst. One might equate some of that to stalker behavior. It's certainly above and beyond some simple forum banter.
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January 22nd, 2021 at 7:08:55 PM permalink
I hadn't posted on here in a month. I didn't even start posting after that month elapsed, I was busy and might've come in some days after. I posted in this thread, and you felt compelled to come in and inject your usual sh*t stirring.

If you want to take all the time to post all this that you're posting today, scroll back and find my first post in this thread which posed a legitimate question. The question wasn't even posed to you, it was posed to Bluejay. Who knows, maybe you didn't even READ my post to GET to the part where I was asking Bluejay a question. Of course you had to waste everyone's time by playing games and stirring sh*t as usual. Just because you're sore over something that you think happened over a MONTH ago is no reason to come in here half cocked.

That's all there is to it.
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January 22nd, 2021 at 8:07:37 PM permalink
Quote: MichaelBluejay

Why are so many of your clients interested in paying in Bitcoin?


Because that fits the narrative he’s trying to portray (badly)
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January 22nd, 2021 at 8:10:15 PM permalink
Welcome to your party, sh*t stirrer. It's not my party. Must be lonely where you are, but welcome nonetheless.
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January 22nd, 2021 at 8:15:38 PM permalink
Quote: MDawg

Welcome to your party, sh*t stirrer. It's not my party. Must be lonely where you are, but welcome nonetheless.


I’m a very happy person despite being effed up mentally and having no resolve as you say. I’m not lonely at all, I’m currently sitting in my Bellagio suite with two of my closest friends and we are about to head down for our reservation at Spago in a hour but yes must be lonely.

Must be tough knowing I’m a successful young man and my stories are proven and backed up by countless people and you’re a sorry lonely old man who writes fiction nonstop and attacks when his fairytales have loose strings that he gets called out for.
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January 22nd, 2021 at 8:23:52 PM permalink
Quote: PokerGrinder

I’m currently sitting in my Bellagio suite with two of my closest friends and we are about to head down for our reservation at Spago



Thank you for your trip report.
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January 22nd, 2021 at 8:32:52 PM permalink
Quote: coachbelly

Thank you for your trip report.


You’re welcome coach, it’s all I have effort for after driving here from San Diego on no sleep.
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January 22nd, 2021 at 8:36:13 PM permalink
Quote: PokerGrinder

You’re welcome coach, it’s all I have effort for after driving here from San Diego on no sleep.



Try not wasting so much energy busting MDawg's balls.
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January 22nd, 2021 at 8:41:28 PM permalink
Do people get barred from Coinbase or banks because of certain actions, like insurrection?
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January 22nd, 2021 at 8:44:05 PM permalink
Quote: PokerGrinder

I’m a very happy person despite being effed up mentally and having no resolve as you say. I’m not lonely at all, I’m currently sitting in my Bellagio suite with two of my closest friends and we are about to head down for our reservation at Spago in a hour but yes must be lonely.

Must be tough knowing I’m a successful young man and my stories are proven and backed up by countless people and you’re a sorry lonely old man who writes fiction nonstop and attacks when his fairytales have loose strings that he gets called out for.



Whatever you're up to more power to you. And that's the difference between you and me.
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January 23rd, 2021 at 12:31:02 AM permalink
Quote: MDawg

Everyone I know who claimed that he would retire when he had X dollars, is well past that breakwater point, and is working harder than ever.



Thanks for this overwhelmingly convincing story about how effective confirmation bias can be.

Everyone I know believes things that are not true.

You are certainly not an exception.
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January 23rd, 2021 at 4:42:42 AM permalink
Quote: coachbelly

Try not wasting so much energy busting MDawg's balls.


Dawgs Mom is back lol
The stories that are made up must be protected
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January 23rd, 2021 at 8:41:36 AM permalink
Dawg is officially the coolest, he PM’d me a childish insult on another gambling forum that I don’t use lol. If it weren’t for receiving an email I would never have known.
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January 23rd, 2021 at 9:41:24 AM permalink
Quote: PokerGrinder

... on another gambling forum...

Hi PG... and others in this thread.
I've seen some of the hostile invective that's thrown about on 'another gambling forum' between contributors to this thread. It seems to go way beyond forum banter.

Here's a reminder that replicating or bringing it to this forum is not appropriate. Though it's not explicitly forbidden in the rules, Wizard has often made that clear. Rule 19 and 12 covers this to my satisfaction.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/info/rules/2-forum-rules/#post37215

Some members make claims that others find 'incredible'. Some are personally hostile.

Feel free to take and keep that invective elsewhere.

Thanks in anticipation.
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January 23rd, 2021 at 9:45:20 AM permalink
It’s all good, apparently dawg is a childish 7 year old who sends pm’s that say nothing but “fat boy”.

Omg I’m so hurt, I have to say I don’t know how I’m going to recover from this. I mean this is the first time in my life that I’ve been called fat and this is going to scar me for years to come...
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January 23rd, 2021 at 10:04:55 AM permalink
Quote: ChumpChange

Do people get barred from Coinbase or banks because of certain actions, like insurrection?

Yes, though they don't necessarily state explicit reason. We could inadvertently get political with a topical example. Let's not.
Financial institutions can cease to do business with individuals with whatever reason they see fit. 'Certain actions' is a broad category.

Here's an example from the UK
Quote: Jackie Uhi, head of branch network for HSBC UK, said:


“Our branch colleagues are key workers are continuing go to work in our branches every day so that customers who need them can access essential financial services.
...
“If you do visit us, please wear a face covering and maintain a safe distance from others. If individuals put themselves or our colleagues at risk, without a medical exemption, we reserve the right to withdraw their account.

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January 23rd, 2021 at 10:25:17 AM permalink
Quote: MichaelBluejay

<snip>The first time you sell a lot of Bitcoin they'll ask you where you got the Bitcoin, because they have to follow KYC (Know-Your-Customer) laws. If you tell them you got paid from an online casino, they'll tell you to withdraw your balance so they can close your account, because they don't want to touch online gambling money for legal reasons. If you lie about where you got the Bitcoin, then you've committed felony bank fraud.<snip>



MichaelBluejay,

If as you say they ask only for the first such transaction, why not simply have a large, "legitimate" (in the sense that the bank won't decline it out of hand), transaction first, to get that question out of the way?

I ask because I'm interested in getting into Bitcoin myself.

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January 23rd, 2021 at 10:46:42 AM permalink
Quote: DogHand

If as you say they ask only for the first such transaction...

That is not what I said.
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January 23rd, 2021 at 12:52:32 PM permalink
Quote: MichaelBluejay

That is not what I said.



MichaelBluejay,

So should your post #58 have said "Every time you sell...", rather than "The first time you sell..."?

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January 23rd, 2021 at 1:05:40 PM permalink
Quote: DogHand

So should your post #58 have said "Every time you sell...", rather than "The first time you sell..."?

No, and stop trying to be a pedant. I'm sure my meaning is clear to everyone else. The first large sale is certain to invite scrutiny, and I have experience with that, and that's what's relevant to most people in most situations, so that's what I wrote about. I never said that future large sales wouldn't invite scrutiny. They might, but I can't comment on them either way, because I don't know for sure, because I NEVER MADE IT PAST THE FIRST SALE. If you want to try your supposed loophole, be my guest.
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January 23rd, 2021 at 4:45:56 PM permalink
Quote: MichaelBluejay

The first time you sell a lot of Bitcoin



How much is 'a lot'.
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January 23rd, 2021 at 4:51:36 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

How much is 'a lot'.

That's the 64(dozen, hundred, thousand) dollar question $:o)
Coinbase have already caved to tell the tax authorities of an customer transacting more than about $2k per annum.
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January 23rd, 2021 at 6:01:40 PM permalink
Quote: MDawg

Welcome to your party, sh*t stirrer. It's not my party. Must be lonely where you are, but welcome nonetheless.



Personal insult, masked profanity -- three days.

As a reminder and as a general rule of thumb, you can say somebody is a stirring poop, but not that they are a poop stirrer. Again, this is a general rule of thumb and forum management is allowed to read between the lines.
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January 23rd, 2021 at 6:12:12 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

you can say somebody is a stirring poop, but not that they are a poop stirrer.


Did you mean...
"you can say somebody is stirring poop, but not that they are a poop stirrer."?

'a' removed
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January 23rd, 2021 at 9:43:19 PM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

Did you mean...
"you can say somebody is stirring poop, but not that they are a poop stirrer."?

'a' removed



Reminds me of a joke my dad told me when I was a kid where you basically say,

I'm a smart feller
I'm a feller smart

Over and over, of course, until you said you were a fart smeller.

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January 25th, 2021 at 6:13:16 AM permalink
Bitcoin back up
My small investment back in the positive territory
Yippee
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January 25th, 2021 at 9:23:09 AM permalink
Quote: terapined

Bitcoin back up
My small investment back in the positive territory
Yippee



Invest Ronco style. Set it and forget it.
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January 27th, 2021 at 1:03:56 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

How much is 'a lot'.



Such a simple question and crickets
for an answer. How much is a 'lot'
of Bitcoin. $200? $2000? $10,000?
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January 27th, 2021 at 7:27:30 AM permalink
Being tested again today, as is the stock market.
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January 27th, 2021 at 10:46:18 AM permalink
Quote: MDawg

Being tested again today, as is the stock market.



You should have invested in GameStop
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January 27th, 2021 at 11:11:31 AM permalink
Quote: MDawg

Being tested again today, as is the stock market.



Gonna be a long test. Bitcoin
down 10,000 from a couple
weeks ago. Dow down 400
yesterday, 350 today. What
could be spooking them, so
hard to figure out. lol
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January 27th, 2021 at 3:29:29 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Gonna be a long test. Bitcoin
down 10,000 from a couple
weeks ago. Dow down 400
yesterday, 350 today. What
could be spooking them, so
hard to figure out. lol



Yeah, real hard.


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February 3rd, 2021 at 5:52:51 PM permalink
I spent 15 ETH on hashmasks....



ETH gains to outpace BTC in 2021? Lot of people I follow think so.
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February 3rd, 2021 at 7:51:53 PM permalink
April 4th, 2013 at 9:26:47 PM
Quote: EvenBob

Gonna be a long test. Bitcoin
down 10,000 from a couple
weeks ago. Dow down 400
yesterday, 350 today. What
could be spooking them, so
hard to figure out. lol

Quote: EvenBob

Bitcoins are like collector Elvis plates. There's a limited
number made and they go up in value till they hit a
plateau. They're only worth the price because the
demand sets the price. If collectors lose interest,
prices plummet.



Just think Beanie Babies. Remember those?

I believe BTC was less than $300 at the time.
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February 4th, 2021 at 3:42:04 PM permalink
If you're still bearish on BTC watch this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQq4vqLaGvA
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February 4th, 2021 at 3:58:53 PM permalink
Care to summarize, since you've clearly watched it? Not everyone has time to watch a 24-minute video.
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February 4th, 2021 at 4:05:46 PM permalink
Wrong link - https://youtu.be/kC2M1dCEyvs
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February 4th, 2021 at 4:09:54 PM permalink
Quote: MichaelBluejay

Care to summarize, since you've clearly watched it? Not everyone has time to watch a 24-minute video.



Don't you ever cook? Tablet in the kitchen that plays YouTube vids or GWAE podcasts......
rdw4potus
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February 4th, 2021 at 4:11:24 PM permalink
I just can't get into bitcoin.
I'll let Nexo pay interest
on usdc all day long.
But bitcoin just doesn't grab me.
Maybe I waited too long now
and the price is just far too high.
Or maybe usdc is
just more relatable to me.
"So as the clock ticked and the day passed, opportunity met preparation, and luck happened." - Maurice Clarett
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February 6th, 2021 at 3:05:40 PM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

I just can't get into bitcoin.
I'll let Nexo pay interest
on usdc all day long.
But bitcoin just doesn't grab me.
Maybe I waited too long now
and the price is just far too high.
Or maybe usdc is
just more relatable to me.



That's on the radar of things to do especially after reading this -

https://www.reddit.com/r/CelsiusNetwork/comments/ldfxkx/would_this_work_or_am_i_missing_something/

HELOC to USDC deposited at 10%+ Interest to pay off the 3% HELOC.
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