cmMitchell
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October 10th, 2023 at 1:42:25 PM permalink
this maybe better suited for reddit but i can never understand why people donate to youtube channels.
for example jackpotgents or slot lady gets 1,99 or 25 donations and people actuially pay money to sub to there channels

do humans get real enjoyment out of these broadcasters as much as netflix or max?
maybe my perception of money different than those but still wouldnt they have more fun spending it on themselves than on others?
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October 10th, 2023 at 2:10:14 PM permalink
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do humans get real enjoyment out of these broadcasters as much as netflix or max?
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Yes. Yes they do. That's as simple as it gets.
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October 10th, 2023 at 2:17:15 PM permalink
I had a guy try to tip me $100 because I chatted with him while I was playing a machine and he was sitting next to me.

Bizarre stuff happens.
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October 10th, 2023 at 4:38:55 PM permalink
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this maybe better suited for reddit but i can never understand why people donate to youtube channels.
for example jackpotgents or slot lady gets 1,99 or 25 donations and people actuially pay money to sub to there channels

do humans get real enjoyment out of these broadcasters as much as netflix or max?
maybe my perception of money different than those but still wouldnt they have more fun spending it on themselves than on others?
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If you don't understand why, then you need to learn a little more about human nature.
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October 10th, 2023 at 6:14:34 PM permalink
People donate to Youtube channels to help produce content that they like.

To me this makes sense in the context of content that involved a lot of time and effort to produce (IE Youtubers who make in-depth history documentaries on their own.) This makes no sense to me in terms of watching somebody stream themselves hitting max bet at a slot machines for 20 mins (often with minimal commentary.) But, apparently slot streams are super hot right now, so there must be something to it. Even video game streams I have trouble understanding (but I respect there is elements of skill and strategy,) but slots? Just not for me (if giving money to people to put in a slot machine is entertainment for you, I have nothing against it, just not for me.)

Though I do have suspicion certain streamers are funded by certain casinos -possibly in the form of fake/bot donation-, no evidence just personal speculation (in which case it is all make believe as the casino just gives them a balance to play with on camera.) If this is the case I would be against it, unless both parties admit it (of course proving this would be impossible so this is pure speculation.) But, we have seen leaks of certain Youtubers having secret deals with sketch online overseas casinos where they get paid to play with a fake balance X number of hours, so it is not unheard of -Twitch actually had to ban casino streams because this became such a problem- (even if no leak has emerged yet with a traditional casino.)
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October 11th, 2023 at 5:10:23 AM permalink
Same as the tipping culture keeps expanding. They want to help someone they like.

I watch a channel of a guy who gives life advice for a fee and some people pay for him to do it on video. He sometimes does live videos and has superchats where people pay a few bucks and get their comment shown and he comments on them. To me it is far more entertaining than say a reality show about customers attacking each other. I have not donated but one day might.

There was once a thing called "patron of the arts" where people paid artists to just create art. Idea was someone had to support it. This was hundreds of years ago and really that is what is happening now.
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October 11th, 2023 at 7:37:21 AM permalink
I'm wondering if the movie industry will eventually sue Patreon. Or try anyway. People show full length movies on their channel. If I was a broke college student i might pay $5 a month to watch several movies a month. College usually has free internet or a very nominal fee. Join someone's channel and basicailly it's group watch of a movie.
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October 11th, 2023 at 10:11:20 AM permalink
For most subscribers to these channels, the vicarious thrill of watching gambling action substitutes for the need to gamble themselves. This saves untold amounts of money and maybe even time, since the viewer saves travel time to a casino. If the performer has a good personality and gambles at a higher limit than the viewer, the experience may even be more satisfying for them than gambling themselves. A viewer might want to donate a small fraction of the amount they knew they would have lost themselves and feel they saved money.
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October 11th, 2023 at 3:55:35 PM permalink
There's no way I can hang around a table game for more than 5 minutes at a casino just watching. I wouldn't like to learn it there either. I'd rather come here or watch YouTube videos about the game I'm interested in for the week or month or quarter and learn a lot more about the game than in 5 minutes of watching at the casino. So later I can have a game plan of how I want to play it if I get to it at the casino.
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October 12th, 2023 at 3:21:29 PM permalink
I occasionally make donations to podcasters - if it’s a podcast that doesn’t have advertising, and is asking for donations or has a Patreon option, if it would bum me out if there were no more new episodes. But only on occasional lump payments. I’d never subscribe thru Patreon.

There’s only one YouTube channel that I watch regularly: Brad Owen. He has a ton of subscribers and makes a small portion of the small advertising fees YouTube collects. And he’s never asked for donations. So I don’t. Not sure what I’d do if he ever asked.

Several years ago, WoV was in financial trouble and Mike made it public and asked for help. I was happy to do so.
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October 13th, 2023 at 7:47:34 PM permalink
I suspect there are a few reasons:
1. donators do not realize that the big names get money from endorsement deals, appearance fees, and commissions for bringing the rubes in Middling Town Casino.
2. people want the attention that comes with BigGambler6969420 mentioning your name during a video or stream
3. people believe that the gamblers need the money and want to help make the video (which goes back to 1)

I also question why people would give money for gambling. I can see giving money to educational content. "Here's a hundred simoleons for you to blow on 2 games of Huff N Puff" I will never understand.

I more question why someone would accept it though. The big streamers are much wealthier than the average person. I assume most of the people who give are much more poor. It is creepy to accept charity from people who have less than you. Creepier to beg for it. Creepiest to accept that money live and gamble with it. Probably more so when the money is unnecessary as casinos are giving them more money than the make during a dumb little video.
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Though I do have suspicion certain streamers are funded by certain casinos -possibly in the form of fake/bot donation-, no evidence just personal speculation (in which case it is all make believe as the casino just gives them a balance to play with on camera.) If this is the case I would be against it, unless both parties admit it (of course proving this would be impossible so this is pure speculation.)


FTC and platform rules require disclosure of ads. No casino marketing person is risking their jobs by paying a streamer or video maker under the table. The twitch debacle makes it even more dangerous for people to hide this stuff. People hated that online casino that was dropping millions on twitch streams. It would be a big hit to Big Name Casino's reputation to be hiding payments to MrSlotsmanJackpots6969420.
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January 8th, 2024 at 6:10:22 PM permalink
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I suspect there are a few reasons:
1. donators do not realize that the big names get money from endorsement deals, appearance fees, and commissions for bringing the rubes in Middling Town Casino.
2. people want the attention that comes with BigGambler6969420 mentioning your name during a video or stream
3. people believe that the gamblers need the money and want to help make the video (which goes back to 1)

I also question why people would give money for gambling. I can see giving money to educational content. "Here's a hundred simoleons for you to blow on 2 games of Huff N Puff" I will never understand.

I more question why someone would accept it though. The big streamers are much wealthier than the average person. I assume most of the people who give are much more poor. It is creepy to accept charity from people who have less than you. Creepier to beg for it. Creepiest to accept that money live and gamble with it. Probably more so when the money is unnecessary as casinos are giving them more money than the make during a dumb little video.

Quote: Gandler

Though I do have suspicion certain streamers are funded by certain casinos -possibly in the form of fake/bot donation-, no evidence just personal speculation (in which case it is all make believe as the casino just gives them a balance to play with on camera.) If this is the case I would be against it, unless both parties admit it (of course proving this would be impossible so this is pure speculation.)


FTC and platform rules require disclosure of ads. No casino marketing person is risking their jobs by paying a streamer or video maker under the table. The twitch debacle makes it even more dangerous for people to hide this stuff. People hated that online casino that was dropping millions on twitch streams. It would be a big hit to Big Name Casino's reputation to be hiding payments to MrSlotsmanJackpots6969420.
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It depends on what you consider payment. I am sure some streamers get many x the amount of comps their play would entail on average, because Casino whichever, knows that they will be live streaming hours of play (which both gets a lot of online attention, and also gets local people interested in swinging over to the casino to visit.) Also, even just the act of receiving permission to film for commercial purposes (which most people would never be allowed -even for personal use- ) on the casino floor can be looked at as a payment of its own. There are definitely ways to incentive certain streamers to hang out which do not involve giving them formal payment.

Just the act of openly streaming continuously for hours without security intervention can be a flag on its own, because they worked out something with the casino prior. (If you don't believe me, you don't even have to stream, just sit at a random slot machine and film yourself playing, and within minutes there will be a security and/or floor intervention.... Rarely do people get away with filming for extended periods of time without a deal worked out, unless they are super discreet -which kind of defeats the purpose of slot streaming-)
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January 9th, 2024 at 10:54:15 AM permalink
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Same as the tipping culture keeps expanding. They want to help someone they like.

I watch a channel of a guy who gives life advice for a fee and some people pay for him to do it on video. He sometimes does live videos and has superchats where people pay a few bucks and get their comment shown and he comments on them. To me it is far more entertaining than say a reality show about customers attacking each other. I have not donated but one day might.

There was once a thing called "patron of the arts" where people paid artists to just create art. Idea was someone had to support it. This was hundreds of years ago and really that is what is happening now.
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It used to be super posh to have a garden hermit. A dude who would live in a small hut/grotto in your garden for a small fee. They would be expected to do anything from simply exist to counseling guests and giving advice. I wish I could snag a job doing that now. I have the hair and beard for it.
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