GWAE Calling it Quits
March 31st, 2023 at 9:26:48 AM
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Bob and Richard just announced on their podcast that they are ending the podcast in a few months. I'll definitely be sad to see it go since this podcast got me started in the AP world almost 10 years ago.
Is this the type of show that can continue with new hosts?
Is this the type of show that can continue with new hosts?
March 31st, 2023 at 10:26:01 AM
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why are they leaving?Quote: ActuarialBob and Richard just announced on their podcast that they are ending the podcast in a few months. I'll definitely be sad to see it go since this podcast got me started in the AP world almost 10 years ago.
Is this the type of show that can continue with new hosts?
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Wiz, take it over? :)
Craps is paradise (Pair of dice).
Lets hear it for the SpeedCount Mathletes :)
March 31st, 2023 at 10:34:12 AM
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Quote: ActuarialBob and Richard just announced on their podcast that they are ending the podcast in a few months. I'll definitely be sad to see it go since this podcast got me started in the AP world almost 10 years ago.
Is this the type of show that can continue with new hosts?
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It would be interesting with different hosts.
Who do you think could pull it off that doesn't already have a show?
Without Bob Dancer, I just don't think it would be GWAE.
(Preemptive: I am not volunteering, and I am decidedly not voluntellable.)
May the cards fall in your favor.
March 31st, 2023 at 10:54:24 AM
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Sad times indeed, but all good things come to an end.
March 31st, 2023 at 11:21:59 AM
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I do listen to their show on YouTube occasionally. I will miss hearing it later on.
March 31st, 2023 at 12:07:13 PM
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Is there a big enough hole there that the hole needs filling? I ask myself this.
I consider myself borderline passable at interviewing people.
Not to take over GWAE, of course. I just wonder if there is a big enough hole to fill with a substantially similar show. I also wonder if LCB would be interested in buying out the rights to GWAE.
If they did, I probably wouldn't even need any additional money to do the show. I could write companion articles, on occasion, based on the shows...so it would be almost the same as getting paid directly for doing the show.
I consider myself borderline passable at interviewing people.
Not to take over GWAE, of course. I just wonder if there is a big enough hole to fill with a substantially similar show. I also wonder if LCB would be interested in buying out the rights to GWAE.
If they did, I probably wouldn't even need any additional money to do the show. I could write companion articles, on occasion, based on the shows...so it would be almost the same as getting paid directly for doing the show.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
March 31st, 2023 at 12:12:59 PM
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Quote: Mission146Is there a big enough hole there that the hole needs filling? I ask myself this.
I consider myself borderline passable at interviewing people.
Not to take over GWAE, of course. I just wonder if there is a big enough hole to fill with a substantially similar show. I also wonder if LCB would be interested in buying out the rights to GWAE.
If they did, I probably wouldn't even need any additional money to do the show. I could write companion articles, on occasion, based on the shows...so it would be almost the same as getting paid directly for doing the show.
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There’s about a billion sports betting podcasts. I’m sure there’s a boatload of poker too.
I’m not sure there are many AP or even casino gambling podcasts.
March 31st, 2023 at 12:51:11 PM
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The only other one that comes close is Risk of Ruin which is more of a documentary style rather than a live conversation.
March 31st, 2023 at 1:21:42 PM
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Quote: 100xOddswhy are they leaving?
Wiz, take it over? :)
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Wow! This is the first I've heard of this.
As to taking it over, I think not. I co-hosted the show for a while. It was a time drain and I made little revenue from it. My main motive was the additional publicity and secondly it was fun for a while. Between losing interest and being spread very thin, I mentioned to Bob I wanted to leave, but would wait for a suitable replacement. Fortunately, Munch was willing to come back, so my leaving was good for me and good for the show.
When the third edition of my book finally arrives I plan to make an appearance to discuss my revamped chapter on slots. It will be good to do the show one last time, assuming the offer still stands. Not only was I a co-host, but one of the most frequent guests as well.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
March 31st, 2023 at 2:07:38 PM
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Quote: Mission146Is there a big enough hole there that the hole needs filling? I ask myself this.
I consider myself borderline passable at interviewing people.
Not to take over GWAE, of course. I just wonder if there is a big enough hole to fill with a substantially similar show. I also wonder if LCB would be interested in buying out the rights to GWAE.
If they did, I probably wouldn't even need any additional money to do the show. I could write companion articles, on occasion, based on the shows...so it would be almost the same as getting paid directly for doing the show.
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Just ask Terrence, he does a regular Poker podcast.
At my age, a "Life In Prison" sentence is not much of a deterrent.
March 31st, 2023 at 2:32:03 PM
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Any chance it’s an early April Fool’s joke?
I invented a few casino games. Info:
http://www.DaveMillerGaming.com/ —————————————————————————————————————
Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? 😁
March 31st, 2023 at 2:46:09 PM
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Perhaps Frankie Kneeland can take back his show.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
March 31st, 2023 at 2:46:15 PM
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Quote: DJTeddyBearAny chance it’s an early April Fool’s joke?
I doubt it, they have been struggling the last couple of years. It is hard to find interesting guests every week. They should probably decrease it to once a month.
At my age, a "Life In Prison" sentence is not much of a deterrent.
March 31st, 2023 at 2:58:24 PM
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Quote: DJTeddyBearAny chance it’s an early April Fool’s joke?
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I'm just hoping the archived episodes stay up.
I think they'll probably stay on YouTube indefinitely.
It would be really nice to hear some interviews with [list redacted] before the end, but I'm not going to hold my breath.
May the cards fall in your favor.
March 31st, 2023 at 3:27:46 PM
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Quote: WizardWhen the third edition of my book finally arrives.
Huh?
You wrote a book?
"What, me worry?"
April 1st, 2023 at 3:45:59 AM
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Quote: DRichIt is hard to find interesting guests every week. They should probably decrease it to once a month.
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I get that sense too -- that it is hard to get interesting guests on a weekly basis.
GWAE was very instrumental in motivating me to learn more about games and study them. I am certain this podcast "introduced" me to Wizard (from his hosting days) and this web site.
I will miss the show for certain. I wish all the hosts, past and present, well.
April 1st, 2023 at 10:17:17 AM
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Risk of Ruin and Gamblers are very well made and excellent episodes. I think though they probably take a long time to make as the content is very high quality. David Hill travels with the guest for at least a couple days. I would imagine they would soon run out of quality content if they did more than one episode every couple months.Quote: ActuarialThe only other one that comes close is Risk of Ruin which is more of a documentary style rather than a live conversation.
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April 1st, 2023 at 10:27:36 AM
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Bob’s website has every episode easily listed there. I wouldn’t think he had any intention of taking the site down. I keep it bookmarked and when I run out of things to listen to I listen to old ones. I’m up to about episode 100 now. Some really great shows there. I often wait to listen to new episodes until I am sick of listening to everything else so I know I always have something great to listen to. There really is nothing that is on the same level. I’m really sick of every podcast being about Vegas or craps. Also the sports betting podcasts are just really boring, except Spanky of course. I think it just comes down to content. Eventually you just run out of good material. They really did a great job for these many yearsQuote: DieterQuote: DJTeddyBearAny chance it’s an early April Fool’s joke?
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I'm just hoping the archived episodes stay up.
I think they'll probably stay on YouTube indefinitely.
It would be really nice to hear some interviews with [list redacted] before the end, but I'm not going to hold my breath.
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April 1st, 2023 at 12:02:52 PM
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Quote: Sandybestdog
Bob’s website has every episode easily listed there. I wouldn’t think he had any intention of taking the site down.
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(snip!)
One hopes, of course.
In my experience, AP's tend to be keenly aware of the precise moment the juice is no longer worth the squeeze.
edit: If you intend to download the library of past episodes, I suggest doing so before September.
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May the cards fall in your favor.
April 1st, 2023 at 1:17:04 PM
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I have not listened to GWAE in years. I did enjoy the Bob Nersesian interviews and learned some things from Bob that I hope I never need to know. I don't enjoy the shows about degen gambling. I am bored by guests who I consider mere grifters, not true advantage players. I guess the greatest value I got was knowing which AP plays were getting exposed to a wide audience. Then I could focus on other things. Even though I am no longer a listener, GWAE suited my needs more than any other podcast I found.
Gambling is a math contest where the score is tracked in dollars. Try not to get a negative score.
April 2nd, 2023 at 9:08:04 AM
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Sad news but I can’t say I blame them. They’re getting older and choose different ways to spend their time.
Weekly is way too often. I listen to plenty of podcasts that are 2x month. I think that’s a lot easier.
I think the AP move is to sell off the rights to the show. Not sure what they could get but it seems fitting.
Weekly is way too often. I listen to plenty of podcasts that are 2x month. I think that’s a lot easier.
I think the AP move is to sell off the rights to the show. Not sure what they could get but it seems fitting.
If anyone gives you 10,000 to 1 on anything, you take it. If John Mellencamp ever wins an Oscar, I am going to be a very rich dude.
April 2nd, 2023 at 11:08:40 AM
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With the wealth of interviews they've done a good writer could make a great film or series based on the podcast. Obviously most of the technical details of AP wouldn't appeal to a wider audience, but there are enough solid stories spanning different locations and eras, there's more than enough material to make something magical.
April 2nd, 2023 at 11:10:34 AM
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Something better than chatgpt can come up with (though I did find its attempt quite funny).
I asked 'Write a film script based on the podcast 'gambling with an edge'. This is what it spat out:
FADE IN:
EXT. LAS VEGAS STRIP - NIGHT
We see a bustling crowd of people walking up and down the Las Vegas Strip. The neon lights are bright and the energy is high.
CUT TO:
INT. CASINO - NIGHT
We see BOB DANCER and RICHARD MUNCHKIN sitting at a blackjack table. They are both dressed in suits and have serious expressions on their faces.
BOB DANCER
(to Richard)
Okay, the count is high. I'm going all in.
RICHARD MUNCHKIN
(nodding)
I'm with you.
They both place their bets and the dealer deals the cards. Bob and Richard both get 20, while the dealer gets a 17. They win big and collect their winnings.
CUT TO:
INT. RECORDING STUDIO - DAY
Bob and Richard are being interviewed for their podcast, "Gambling With an Edge."
BOB DANCER
(looking at the camera)
We've been gambling professionally for over 30 years. We've made a living playing blackjack, video poker, and other casino games.
RICHARD MUNCHKIN
(nodding)
Our podcast is all about sharing our experiences and strategies with our listeners. We want to help people become smarter gamblers and increase their chances of winning.
CUT TO:
INT. HOTEL ROOM - NIGHT
Bob and Richard are sitting in their hotel room, strategizing for their next game.
BOB DANCER
(pacing)
We need to be careful. The casino is onto us.
RICHARD MUNCHKIN
(sighing)
Yeah, I know. We need to switch up our routine and be more subtle.
They continue to plan and discuss their strategies.
CUT TO:
INT. CASINO - DAY
Bob and Richard are playing a game of video poker. They both have intense expressions on their faces as they carefully consider their moves.
CUT TO:
INT. RECORDING STUDIO - DAY
Bob and Richard are wrapping up their podcast.
BOB DANCER
(smiling)
Thanks for tuning in to "Gambling With an Edge." We hope you found our strategies helpful and that you'll join us again next week.
RICHARD MUNCHKIN
(nodding)
And remember, always gamble responsibly.
FADE OUT.
I asked 'Write a film script based on the podcast 'gambling with an edge'. This is what it spat out:
FADE IN:
EXT. LAS VEGAS STRIP - NIGHT
We see a bustling crowd of people walking up and down the Las Vegas Strip. The neon lights are bright and the energy is high.
CUT TO:
INT. CASINO - NIGHT
We see BOB DANCER and RICHARD MUNCHKIN sitting at a blackjack table. They are both dressed in suits and have serious expressions on their faces.
BOB DANCER
(to Richard)
Okay, the count is high. I'm going all in.
RICHARD MUNCHKIN
(nodding)
I'm with you.
They both place their bets and the dealer deals the cards. Bob and Richard both get 20, while the dealer gets a 17. They win big and collect their winnings.
CUT TO:
INT. RECORDING STUDIO - DAY
Bob and Richard are being interviewed for their podcast, "Gambling With an Edge."
BOB DANCER
(looking at the camera)
We've been gambling professionally for over 30 years. We've made a living playing blackjack, video poker, and other casino games.
RICHARD MUNCHKIN
(nodding)
Our podcast is all about sharing our experiences and strategies with our listeners. We want to help people become smarter gamblers and increase their chances of winning.
CUT TO:
INT. HOTEL ROOM - NIGHT
Bob and Richard are sitting in their hotel room, strategizing for their next game.
BOB DANCER
(pacing)
We need to be careful. The casino is onto us.
RICHARD MUNCHKIN
(sighing)
Yeah, I know. We need to switch up our routine and be more subtle.
They continue to plan and discuss their strategies.
CUT TO:
INT. CASINO - DAY
Bob and Richard are playing a game of video poker. They both have intense expressions on their faces as they carefully consider their moves.
CUT TO:
INT. RECORDING STUDIO - DAY
Bob and Richard are wrapping up their podcast.
BOB DANCER
(smiling)
Thanks for tuning in to "Gambling With an Edge." We hope you found our strategies helpful and that you'll join us again next week.
RICHARD MUNCHKIN
(nodding)
And remember, always gamble responsibly.
FADE OUT.
June 28th, 2023 at 9:10:59 AM
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New show seems to be launching:
Life is a Gamble
Anyone still subscribed to GWAE will likely hear the first episode soon.
Sounds interesting!
Best of luck.
Life is a Gamble
Anyone still subscribed to GWAE will likely hear the first episode soon.
Sounds interesting!
Best of luck.
May the cards fall in your favor.
June 28th, 2023 at 9:28:53 AM
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Quote: DieterNew show seems to be launching:
Life is a Gamble
Anyone still subscribed to GWAE will likely hear the first episode soon.
Sounds interesting!
Best of luck.
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https://www.spreaker.com/user/7418966/lifeisagamble-1
