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January 21st, 2019 at 2:43:07 PM permalink
This is a pdf about player club "fraud" as they call it i guess...

In light of the recent thread about players club fun, i decided to google "casino players club card scams"

and this was the second result ... i ususally stray away from funny looking urls, but this one was too good to pass up

https://s36.a2zinc.net/clients/NIGA/niga16/Custom/Handout/Speaker3209_Session953_1.pdf
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January 21st, 2019 at 2:47:03 PM permalink
Those all seem to be employee related thefts. Not at all the same thing.
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January 21st, 2019 at 2:47:56 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

Those all seem to be employee related thefts. Not at all the same thing.



I agree it is mostly employees, but some were working with gamblers as it says
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January 21st, 2019 at 3:11:58 PM permalink
Quote: heatmap

I agree it is mostly employees, but some were working with gamblers as it says




An employee working with one person or a thousand people is still insider theft. I've had a pit boss give me extra ratings( a letter to his boss complimenting the guy often does wonders) but that's a far cry from someone loading hundreds of dollars on to a card and expecting to get a kickback. That is theft and is illegal.
Not the same thing.
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January 21st, 2019 at 3:25:35 PM permalink
There was not one thing listed there that I do.
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January 21st, 2019 at 3:26:42 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

There was not one thing listed there that I do.



None of which means what you do is legal in every jurisdiction.
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Thanks for this post from:
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January 21st, 2019 at 4:10:14 PM permalink
I see employee theft every week and a lot of it revolves around the player tracking system.

BTW, I do not believe what DarkOz is doing is against the law in most jurisdictions. It is probably against casino player club policy, but that is way different than being illegal.
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January 21st, 2019 at 4:23:02 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

None of which means what you do is legal in every jurisdiction.



Well, by the same token

None of which means its illegal in any jurisdiction
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January 21st, 2019 at 4:25:50 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

I see employee theft every week and a lot of it revolves around the player tracking system.

BTW, I do not believe what DarkOz is doing is against the law in most jurisdictions. It is probably against casino player club policy, but that is way different than being illegal.

It is a GREY area. But the casino is not going to pursue it in courts.
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January 21st, 2019 at 4:26:29 PM permalink
I make certain what I do is legal

Every jurisdiction I am in its legal

If the argument is it might be illegal somewhere else then thats a jurisdiction I wouldn't hit. I try to stay on the right side of the law.

For example:

Smoking marijuana is legal now in some jurisdictions and not in others. Saying you smoke pot in Colorado its pointless to argue that its illegal in NY. At least until the person decides to smoke it in NY
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