billionaireben
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January 13th, 2019 at 10:04:48 AM permalink
What are the best craps tables in Vegas or MS to find other dice controllers? Is the Palace in Biloxi a good place to play craps? I like that it's smoke free and seems to have good rules, though they charge vig when bets are made instead of win only like old reports had.

Ideal scenario:
Short tables
higher odds the better
let's you stretch a buy bet (I've done $39 to buy the 10 for $1 vig.)
vig on win only for buy/lay bets
other dice controllers frequent
tables aren't too crowded generally
not too bouncy, not too stiff tables
friendly staff (not trying to distract you, reasonable pace is encouraged; it shouldn't take long to set dice.)
If you think something should be added to the list, feel free to mention it.

The last year I played, I consistently won small amounts ($100 a day) which was too small to live on but enough that I knew if I built a team of other skilled shooters the bet structure I designed would lower variance enough to enjoy the edge I believe my DC give me (though they need skill as well.) The simple part is $44 inside, lowered to inside minus the point after 1 number hits (or maximum 3 rolls); though there are other things I wrote that protect a dice controller from the risk of overbetting/pressing their profits away. But, I need 3-5 other players to form a team so I always have a good choice to bet on and make money 4-6x as fast.
beachbumbabs
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January 13th, 2019 at 11:32:18 AM permalink
Replying to the craps tables in Biloxi part. No comment on the proposed system.

Palace is not particularly friendly to players, and sort of sweaty to anyone who tries to get an edge. Harrah's has good crews and tolerates dice setters well. Hard Rock allows decent sized bets and tolerates dice setters ok. Treasure Bay has the lowest minimums in town, has 2 craps tables, lots of banter between dealers and players, heavy play late night. IP has very busy craps tables, low minimums, dealers vary between great and rude (all along that spectrum), dice setting is tolerated if it's quick.

Not sure about the other casinos specific to dice. They all have tables. Beau Rivage, Island View, Boomtown, Golden Nugget, Scarlet Pearl, if you want to look them up.

I haven't been up there for a year now, so I wouldn't want to mislead you about what bets beyond the basics are available.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
DeMango
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January 13th, 2019 at 2:18:26 PM permalink
Gonna be a long time before some becomes a billionaire
TB has had one table for at least 5 years.
The low quality of dealers at TB plus the full pay ats, with every clown with $37 buying in, has chased me away.
Find tables with low pay ats or better, none at all. Hard Rock.
When a rock is thrown into a pack of dogs, the one that yells the loudest is the one who got hit.
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January 13th, 2019 at 6:06:11 PM permalink
Quote: DeMango

Gonna be a long time before some becomes a billionaire
TB has had one table for at least 5 years.
The low quality of dealers at TB plus the full pay ats, with every clown with $37 buying in, has chased me away.
Find tables with low pay ats or better, none at all. Hard Rock.



Are you sure it's only 1 table? I was sure there were 2, one set perpendicular to the other, the 2nd one not always open. I'm not 100% on that, though.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
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January 14th, 2019 at 8:06:21 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Are you sure it's only 1 table? I was sure there were 2, one set perpendicular to the other, the 2nd one not always open. I'm not 100% on that, though.

It has been long enough that I have forgotten. Maybe 3-5 years ago, I do have a FB friend who directs the Sports Book, I’ll ask him next time I see him personally or FB.

By the way the OP’s idea, of herding cats (di’s), is funny in so many ways.
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DeMango
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January 18th, 2019 at 3:20:35 PM permalink
Got a reply from TB’s sports book director. Eight years since two tables!
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