Compression Wrist Brace and DI

I over exercised while in a gym a few weeks ago and ended up with a TFCC (Triangular Fibrocartilage Complex) Tear in the wrist along the pinky side of my right hand. The strange thing is it would only hurt if I arched or twisted the hand but otherwise, was pain free. When I did hit the pain sensor a certain way it was excruciating.

Needless to say, it affected my craps throwing motion because I seemed to hit that one little spot that was painful. I ended up purchasing a Futuro compression wrist brace that wrapped around the wrist and part of the hand (thumb loop hole) which allowed me to continue to throw without pain.

I can say with a high certainty that wearing the brace does help with dice throwing. I haven't had anyone complain about me wearing the wrist brace as of yet. I've taken it off the past week to practice throws and much less pain now. I also find that my wrist seems to remember the holding spot.

This leads me to believe that maybe using braces, tapes, etc. to practice with might help instill memory into the toss. Has anyone experienced something similar or tried using props to practice DI?

I'm on vacation in a couple of weeks and will bring the brace with me. I'm hoping to use it on the cruise ship. (Regal Princess - Western Caribbean Cruise)

Logic would dictate that if you used a brace it would help to stabilize your wrist/hand a little bit more than you could on your own.

...Though logic would also dictate that DI is impossible.

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Logic would dictate that if you used a brace it would help to stabilize your wrist/hand a little bit more than you could on your own.

...Though logic would also dictate that DI is impossible.

And if a hand brace could in fact give you the ability to gain an advantage it would probably be considered a cheating device.

Not DI specific, but yes, any sort of implement will affect motion and feel "weird" until that memory is built. But, I can't say where I see that it would help.

My natural throwing motion (ball, not dice) is completely different now than it was at 19. Implements to support structures and relieve pain forced that change, a change that, at least in part, has remained with me. However, I do not think my throw now with this memory adjustment matches my throw when I was wearing the device.

In other words, if you create memory to work with a device, the memory will not stay perfectly true to that motion when the device is removed. It will be adjusted, it will resemble more that device-influenced toss, but it won't be it exactly, not even close. Since DI in theory requires such precision, any adjustment would, IMO, have to be static and consistent. In other words, wait until you're healed or plan to wear the brace for the rest of your career.

And this sentence is just to add another IMO, as I'm comparing DI to cutoff throws from centerfield =p

It may help ease the pain when you throw the dice and you may adjust your throwing motion when releasing the dice, but if there are a dozen fricken idiots throwing their money on the table in the middle of the roll and others throwing hops and props every roll, then the outcome will always be the same... 7 out!

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It may help ease the pain when you throw the dice and you may adjust your throwing motion when releasing the dice, but if there are a dozen fricken idiots throwing their money on the table in the middle of the roll and others throwing hops and props every roll, then the outcome will always be the same... 7 out!

then play the no numbers, throw in late chips and retire early.

....actually throwing in chips late is great for the table, just bad for the dealers.

but you dont really believe it brings the 7??????????

Quote: WatchMeWin

It may help ease the pain when you throw the dice and you may adjust your throwing motion when releasing the dice, but if there are a dozen fricken idiots throwing their money on the table in the middle of the roll and others throwing hops and props every roll, then the outcome will always be the same... 7 out!

Easily exploited if true.

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I can say with a high certainty that wearing the brace does help with
dice throwing.

Wearing a brace restricts just a very few of the variables surrounding
the mechanics of a precision toss. The fact that you perceive an improvement
using the brace is most likely due to variance. Its hard to accept
that an "epiphany" about the toss adjustment (ex: limiting wrist motion in
the way that your brace did) that appears to make your toss so
much better, will likely not be reproduced and taken to the bank via live
casino winnings/results.

It's just way more complex than a few tweaks here and there, which is why
the casinos haven't been negatively impacted by the thousands of DI-wannabees
who have tried (and failed).

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It's just way more complex than a few tweaks here and there, which is why
the casinos haven't been negatively impacted by the thousands of DI-wannabees
who have tried (and failed).

That and the fact that it doesn't work.

People are even contemplating taking chainsaws to their craps tables nowadays.

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People are even contemplating taking chainsaws to their craps tables nowadays.

Wasn't that the 18 yo in a row table?

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I can say with a high certainty that wearing the brace does help with dice throwing. I haven't had anyone complain about me wearing the wrist brace as of yet.

If the brace helps, or even if it makes you think it helps, why not wear it whenever you're shooting?

You can easily explain that you've had an injury, and the act of dice tossing causes pain, but otherwise, it doesn't hurt much - which is why you only wear it when shooting.

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If the brace helps, or even if it makes you think it helps, why not wear it whenever you're shooting?

You can easily explain that you've had an injury, and the act of dice tossing causes pain, but otherwise, it doesn't hurt much - which is why you only wear it when shooting.

I don't need it anymore (injury is much better). I put the brace on my right throwing wrist and practice with it on. I don't wear it to the casino though. There is memorization in place from wearing it and practicing with it. In order to focus on wrist locking with the brace off I tuck my ring and pinky fingers in which causes me to straighten my wrist.

Rather than speculating on whether or not any of this helps with DI, I've decided to record all my throwing sessions going forward.

My sessions will focus on come-out rolls, numbers hit before and after come out (especially PB across), number of points rolled, number of 7s rolled before and after come out, and average number of rolls per roll session.

For purposes of recording, I'm only using two dice sets (one for come out rolls and one for after come out rolls). One is a vertical set and the other is a horizontal set which helps me test the wrist theory.