How should my "friend" bet, considering...?

Quote: MaxSwelle

Sure it matters, and yes I am the "money" behind my mouth. Ostensibly, the concern on her(their) part is exposure; from what I gather.

Quote: Buzzard

" PM me with the details once you talk to him. Additionally, there will need to be a few breaks--15/20 minutes after each 72 rolls. Otherwise, we have a deal. "

Weasel clause is not spelled "Otherwise".

Quote: michael99000

Good job laying the groundwork early for the inevitable backout.

Quote: Buzzard

"yes I am the "money" behind my mouth"

I am not the one you should be feeling sorry for. Tell it to the man in the mirror.

Quote: MaxSwelle

Hey pal, I didn't even owe you an apology. Your mouth was squeaking so I oiled it. The bet concerned you naught and the best you could've hoped for was a play-by-play as told by one of two people...SOOPOO or the Wizard. Incredible loneliness, old fella. Incidentally, I just talked to the man in my mirror and he had a message to relay to you: "Buzzard, worry about your family matters and not some petty wager that doesn't concern you".

Quote: MaxSwelle

Sorry for wasting everyone's time. Sorry to anyone that I may have been rude towards. Initially it was my intention to be insulting because I felt insulted and felt like my integrity was in question. If I were to empathize I could see the frustration held by others. I'll stop posting and will simply watch from the sidelines. It was fun, albeit shortlived. Bye for now. Ack ack.

Quote: djatc

Are you already in the sidelines or are you babbling as you head towards it?

Quote: djatc

Are you already in the sidelines or are you babbling as you head towards it?

Quote: SOOPOO

I never questioned your integrity, or that of any of the DI proponents. I just know they are wrong, and am always willing to bet on it. I also never feel that anyone is wasting my time; if I'm on WoV my time is always being multitasked, often watching MMA.

Quote: AxelWolf

I CAN'T DI, that's my point, NO ONE CAN. Especially not your gal pal.

Quote: MaxSwelle

Hey pal, I didn't even owe you an apology. Your mouth was squeaking so I oiled it. The bet concerned you naught and the best you could've hoped for was a play-by-play as told by one of two people...SOOPOO or the Wizard. Incredible loneliness, old fella. Incidentally, I just talked to the man in my mirror and he had a message to relay to you: "Buzzard, worry about your family matters and not some petty wager that doesn't concern you".

Quote: mustangsally

Yes, ONE can (I think she is dead. Ask Frank S)
I say gal pal can win the challenge
no problem too

I offer a sweet $50.00 for her to have and spend just for completing the challenge
(I do not know her. Maybe she is a guy that dresses as a girl, I no knows)

All the guys can go read the NY Times
Let her shoot the dice and leave her alone or you all will have to deal with Satan after dinner and dancing.

Sally says so

(yes, I have thought she might want more than $50)

Quote: AxelWolf

Don't be silly Sally , no such girl exists and never will. Yes you want to believe in girl power, Yet it dose not exist, only on the end of a whip revived by a wimp. Young girls may bring men to their knees however they were their first.

Quote: Buzzard

I think she is real too. Why? Because the Easter bunny saw her and sent me an affidavit signed by Sasquash.

Quote: MaxSwelle

Yeah, she exists. Honest Abe. The last time we spoke she was up $2900 after 3weeks of play. She lays a number and feeds that bet with 2 place bets. I can't blame ya'll for the attitudes; vulture like so-called AP's want in on all potential earns, but I understand her reservations for the exact same reason. Folks just want to see a free show. Hell, my only interest in her initially was getting her from the tables at the Strat and into my bed. Well, she showed me something kinda cool...and a dice throw I've never seen before. Yes, I'm always on my table trying to replicate her toss.

Quote: MaxSwelle

Yeah, she exists. Honest Abe. The last time we spoke she was up $2900 after 3weeks of play. She lays a number and feeds that bet with 2 place bets. I can't blame ya'll for the attitudes; vulture like so-called AP's want in on all potential earns, but I understand her reservations for the exact same reason. Folks just want to see a free show. Hell, my only interest in her initially was getting her from the tables at the Strat and into my bed. Well, she showed me something kinda cool...and a dice throw I've never seen before. Yes, I'm always on my table trying to replicate her toss.

Quote: AxelWolf

As good as you claim "she" is, "She" should be up far more then that. Add "her" 2900 to your 2500 and make the bet. I'm sure who ever you allow to watch will sign something in regards to keeping her identity secret and will only testify to the bet. 2 days to double her BR.

If this chick could get a reputation of a real DI, she could make far more in a weekend from private classes.

Quote: AxelWolf

As good as you claim "she" is, "She" should be up far more then that. Add "her" 2900 to your 2500 and make the bet. I'm sure who ever you allow to watch will sign something in regards to keeping her identity secret and will only testify to the bet. 2 days to double her BR.

If this chick could get a reputation of a real DI, she could make far more in a weekend from private classes.

Quote: MaxSwelle

Interesting. So Hatchet, you're suggesting that she hold a weekend seminar/class for the purpose of teaching her toss? Would you hold a weekend class teaching folks the details of your empire building techniques as it relates to cherry picking profits from casinos? Why deal with all of the headache and micromanaging involved with running a team? I'm sure that considerable amounts of energy are directed at creating and maintaining cover strategies. Splitting profits and hairs about what you deem to be acceptable under your team rules surely must suck at times; regardless of the huge stacks that you're hauling out of the casinos. You could set up an AP hotline, for a monthly premium of course, and offer earn opportunities or buffet vouchers or whatever. Hell, utilize the class as a loss leader to that end. Think about it my friend. If I had half the hustle you do my life would be twice as swell as it is and I'm only spit-balling here.

Quote: SOOPOO

Gotta agree with Max here. If someone really could DI, then they would be quietly as possible Kelleying their way to riches. No way they would waste time teaching others.....

Quote: AxelWolf

Kind of Right. In this case Fk kelly, he can blow me. With her supposed ability kelly is not needed. You go for broke, you can always find some sucker to bank you (I think she already has). At least take a shot whit most of your BR. If you go broke, then it never worked in the first place.

Seriously, something is not right here, if this person has sooo much confidence in her shooting ability she should have no problem betting some nice sized bets. She should have never said anything in the fist place, yet she told a guy she just meet at the craps table. She allowed him to spread it all over the net. (must be love)

With a meager 2900 profit in 3 weeks(Not bad under normal circumstance) on something, according to is claims, has such a significant edge. 3
weeks of shooting should be escalating that bankroll much quicker.

Personally I think this is some small time con job, not sure who is coning who or what the plan is.

I guarantee, with the right girl, some time and some motivation, I could easily get people falling all over themselves to invest thousands of dollars.


If the Best of the best so called DI's decided they needed to supplement there income with classes and books. Should tell us something.

Quote: AxelWolf

I was pretending she was real for argument sake. I will pretend to do so again. Wow you meet a girl at the craps table and didn't mention you had a crappy table? Most guys would have lead with that. Not even sure why you didn't defile her and the table at the same time. No imagination.

I don't know the edge that she thinks she has. Tell me. I can only go by your build up of her skills. Most
"legitimate" DI's only boast of a small edge. From what you are leading us to belive she is the best in the world.

Who cares about heat? There are LOTS of craps tables you will never run out. Casinos are not sweating craps players nowadays. I think they all seen the Video. Why in gods name ia she not spending every waking moment awake in the casino's?

Quote: nickolay411

INT. STRATOSPHERE. FADE IN.
[V.O.]
The night before he was just a poor loser at the craps table, that is until she walked in. With 2,900 in Cash, strapped to her body like a tight fitting lingerie set from Agent Provocateur, he knew she was the one. After too much foreplay and a lost bankroll he knew he needed her right now, right then. The night lead into a passionate mix of hot sex and spooning. But the next morning his life changed forever when he woke to the beautiful sound of dice hitting felt. As he walked in on her, she was butt naked shooting dice on his table. What a wild throw! He exclaimed. From that moment OUR HERO knew, that dreams did come true.

Coming Soon. Not Yet Rated.

Quote: MaxSwelle

What I found most striking was that her focus wasn't on 7's but rather outside numbers and limiting their appearances.

Quote: rainman

There is no golden touch chick, Its all in Max's Swelled head it's time to put up or shut up!

Quote: MaxSwelle

Quote: nickolay411

INT. STRATOSPHERE. FADE IN.
[V.O.]
The night before he was just a poor loser at the craps table, that is until she walked in. With 2,900 in Cash, strapped to her body like a tight fitting lingerie set from Agent Provocateur, he knew she was the one. After too much foreplay and a lost bankroll he knew he needed her right now, right then. The night lead into a passionate mix of hot sex and spooning. But the next morning his life changed forever when he woke to the beautiful sound of dice hitting felt. As he walked in on her, she was butt naked shooting dice on his table. What a wild throw! He exclaimed. From that moment OUR HERO knew, that dreams did come true.

Coming Soon. Not Yet Rated.

Funny, but you gotta fix your plot discrepancies. Besides a few time line issues it wasn't a bad first draft.

Quote: MaxSwelle

Quote: nickolay411

INT. STRATOSPHERE. FADE IN.
[V.O.]
The night before he was just a poor loser at the craps table, that is until she walked in. With 2,900 in Cash, strapped to her body like a tight fitting lingerie set from Agent Provocateur, he knew she was ACES. After much HARD FOREplay and a lost bankroll he knew he needed her right now, right then. The night lead into passion and he she stayed on the COME . But the next morning his life changed forever when he woke to the beautiful sound of dice hitting felt. As he walked in on her, she was butt naked shooting dice on his table. What a wild throw, he exclaimed. To his suprise she asked him for a HARD 8, but an EASY 4 was the best he could muster. Despite her winning a DONT COME as he yelled out a YO, OUR HERO knew that dreams did come true.

Coming Soon. Not Yet Rated.

Funny, but you gotta fix your plot discrepancies. Besides a few time line issues it wasn't a bad first draft.

Quote: MaxSwelle

Go for broke?? That's your suggestion or how you would advise her. Wow is the only word that comes to mind. In the spirit of ojectivity, would you mind presenting an alternative scenario that will explain the "meager" amount she has won thus far. Perhaps fear in betting larger amounts due to heat. A lack of consistency in her toss. Limited times spent at casinos. And, dick has been spread all over the net because as far as anyone is concerned I've lied about everything and she doesn't even exist. You kinda negated your own point and repeated requests for a demonstration on that front. Lastly it wasn't love that was the catalyst behind her showing me. Her walking into my gameroom after we woke up and seeing that I had a craps table is what led to that mini lesson. That and she enjoyed my sizeable penis. Bets on that, anyone? Btw, I asked you a question AXELWOLF!

Quote: GWAE

lmao at heat on a craps table.

Quote: MaxSwelle

I don't know what her edge is. I posted her Wincraps stats based on her throws, as provided by her. After seeing the way she tossed the dice I thought "hey, it's possible". What I found most striking was that her focus wasn't on 7's but rather outside numbers and limiting their appearances. I've been conditioned to the foucus being on SSR this and SSR that. I'm not some horny dude that would ever defile something of value for a piece of a$@. They come and they go my friend. Stripper types(sorry girl) are a different lot. Believe. Don't believe. When I'm in the mood I'll talk shit to anyone that brings it my way and on other days I'll just empathize with ya'll due to the lack of proof. Hell, I never thought it was possible either, so I get it. Anyway, answer my question por favor- why not run an AP class.

Quote: Ayecarumba

She ... stands to be compensated by you for her time

Quote: AxelWolf

No real need, I think I have a tad bit more then 2900. However, She needs a bump in her BR, this would speed thins up significantly. ((WHAT YOU SUGGEST IS AN ALL OR NOTHING APPROACH. I WILL DEFER TO THIS FREQUENTLY, AS YOU SHOULD FOLLOW YOUR OWN ADVICE. RARELY ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOOLPROOF AND RESOLVE WITHOUT FAIL OR A WITHOUT A MARGIN OF ERROR. IF YOU ARE NOT A MILLIONAIRE AT THIS POINT THEN YOU COULD BE VIEWED AS A HYPOCRITE AND FULL OF SHIT. AS A SELF PROCLAIMED AP OF 20+YEARS, SURELY A "GO FOR BROKE" OPPORTUNITY HAS PRESENTED ITSELF. A CHANCE AT WHICH YOU DISREGARD CAUTION AND BREAK THE HOUSE INTO SPLINTERS AS YOU PLAYED WITH EVERY PENNY YOU AND YOUR TEAM COULD BEG, BORROW AND BORROW. WHEN YOU MADE THE DECISION TO PLAY FULL-TIME DID YOU EVER HAVE A SENSE OF TREPIDATION OR WERE YOUR ALWAYS OUT WITH BALLS'A SWINGIN'?))

I Do have partners I share information and occasionally have a few people that work for us. It's much, much more complicated then 1 game of craps and a bit of practice.
There are lots of tricks, grey, black and white, networking, information is key. ((NON SEQUITURS))

Unlike craps, Real AP divulging , especially real good AP secrets, is considered treasonous. ((SAYS YOU; AND SO WHAT! ARE YOU TRYING TO MAKE MONEY OR MAKE FRIENDS? THE WORD TREASONOUS, TO ME, DENOTES A VIOLATION OF AN EXPRESSED OR IMPLIED COVENANT OR BOND AS IT RELATES TO SOME SORT OF HONOR. THE HONOR EXISTS BETWEEN THE MEN, NOT SO MUCH THE WORLD OF AP AS A WHOLE. AP'S ARE HOVERING VULTURES WAITING FOR OPPORTUNITY. DOD EAT DOG, IF YOU WILL. ONE TEAM WILL BACK STAB THE OTHER IF IT MEANS THE DIFFERENCE IN THEM WINNING OR LOSING OUT ON A PLAY. STEP OFF THE PEDESTAL, IF YOU WOULD-I AIN'T BUYING AP'S WINNING MERIT BADGES.))

I have current and former partners, friends and peers to consider, people who I care about and respect, I have an unwritten allegiance to them. Going back as far as the early 90's. ((BRING THEM ON BOARD AS INSTRUCTORS, ADVISORS, MARKETERS, RESEARCHERS, ETC.))

If you have not noticed, I'm very anti information spreading, unless it's someone I trust. ((YET, YOU DEMAND PROOF FROM OTHERS WHEN THE SOLE PURPOSE THEIR POST WAS TO HAVE A QUESTION ANSWERED, NOT TO MAKE AN EXCLAMATION; THUSLY YOU ACT AS A PROPONENT FOR THE SPREADING OF INFORMATION FROM OTHERS.))


I don't talk about 99% of the stuff I do or have done.
Others here have meet me, or know who I am, Going all the way back to the 90s. Some have heard about interesting creative plays I found developed and been on. Some plays only 2 or 3 people know about in the world.
I played a few lesser known fair moderately long lasting plays, come to find out a few people from here also played at the same time period. Drich Is one person. (We have talked about it here, so i don't think he will mind.) ((TRANSLATION: AXELWOLF IS AN AP'S AP. HE CAN BE TRUSTED NEVER TO TELL OR REVEAL ANY TRADE SECRETS. HE TAKES LONG, DEEP BREATHS IN THE RARIFIED AIR AT WHICH HE EXISTS-WITH 2, POSSIBLY 3, OTHER PEOPLE. ADDITIONALLY, HE NEVER EVER EVER NAME DROPS; IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE HIM ASK DRICH.))


I also have partners who are members here as well. The few things I do say, will check out. (Some plays would blow YOUR mind ) I proceed with caution when I talk about anything. I really try to make sure its something that won't cause any harm. I wont argue to much about the legitimacy of anything I say, I will just out my money where my mouth is(unlike some). I don't go claiming to be a millionaire or outrageous claims, or that I can do the impossible, or I'm the best or know everything, I don't go posting pics of Jackpots and tax forms or whatever. ((NO, NOT ALL OF THE TIME - YOU SIMPLY ATTEMPT TO RIDICULE THOSE THAT DON'T CHOOSE TO ENTERTAIN YOUR DOUBTS. BUT, THE REST OF THE TIME YOU DO CHOOSE TO ACT AS IF YOU KNOW EVERYTHING. YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT AND HOW MUCH A PERSON SHOULD BET BASED ON DATA GATHERED FROM 3600 ROLLS OF THE DICE. YPU KNOW WHERE THEIR BANKROLL SHOULD BE. YOU KNOW THAT AN EMPIRE WILL BE CREATED, YET AGAIN, BY SIMPLY DUPLICATING AN EXISTING, HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS MODEL, PRIMARILY BUILT UPON TEACHING INDIVIDUALS DICE THROWING TECHNIQUES. IN OTHER WORDS, YOU KNOW HOW TO BUILD A BETTER MOUSETRAP.))

Unlike craps, There are not a lot of people yearning, spending their entire life searching for the holy grail. Craps has a cult like following.
Unlike craps, There are a limited amounts of plays and its always changing. Craps is 24/7 365 in most casinos around the world with big limits
Unlike craps, Almost ALL CASINOS BELIEVE IN REAL AP. AP has been proven mathematically and by actual results from many notable people. Very,very few believe in DI and Never will. ((IF YOU BUILD IT THEY WILL COME. THAT AND A COMPETENT MARKETING DEPARTMENT WILL ENSURE EXTREME WEALTH FOR YOU AND YOUR BACKERS. INTEREST IN POKER HAS NEVER BEEN GREATER, WHICH MEANS THAT AN INTEREST IN GAMBLING HAS NEVER BEEN GREATER. MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE GET RICH QUICK IDEOLOGY IS OLDER THAN DIRT. SO TRUST ME, YOUR'E WORNG ON THIS ONE.))

Your wonder woman gal pal as no real allegiance to anyone but herself. Its not really a big deal to yap about craps. Casinos are not going to run around worried about little miss DI teaching classes. DI Classes have been going on for years. DI advocates who talk shop among peers are celebrated. ((SEE AFOREMENTIONED))

I would have to pick one or the other ((NO SEQUITUR))

She can have her cake and eat me to, by teaching and playing. In one knight she could spike her BR 10 fold. if what you say is true. If some of the best most dedicated(Ahigh) DIs (dominator)and great minds( Wong) can't pull this off with consistently or at all. Her teaching wouldn't transfer to others, she is a, one of a kind anomaly. ((CONSISTENTLY AND NOT AT ALL ARE NOT SYNONYMOUS. IT WAS YOU THAT TOOK THE RESULTS OF 3600 ROLLS AND RAN UP THE HILL SCREAMING "FRAUD". A LACK OF CONSISTENCY IS ENOUGH TO COMPEL ANY REASONABLE PERSON TO TREAD LIGHTLY WITH A BANKROLL AND NOT "GO FOR BROKE" AS SOME KNUCKLEHEADS WOULD COUNSEL. HOWEVER, THE FREQUENT EXISTENCE OF WILLFULLY REPEATABLE RESULTS IS ENOUGH TO CAUSE ANY REASONABLE GAMBLER TO TAKE NOTICE. BEING AN EXPERT ON THE GAME OF CRAPS IN NO WAY TRANSLATES INTO HAVING THE PHYSICAL ABILITIES THAT ARE ABSOLUTELY REQUIRED TO MANIPULATE ONES HAND AND FINGERS ON TWO TINY CUBES THAT SOME CALL DI. A EXPERTS KNOWLEDGE OF CRAPS ISN'T EVEN ENOUGH TO TEACH SOMEONE HOW TO THROW AN INFLUENCED SHOT.))

Simple, just put a small hidden camera on her, Have her go play a bunch of sessions at a real casino. Make sure you pre-document the times and places you are going to go, so no cherry picking. Find the right person(someone notable) to sign a confidentiality statement. Block out anything you don't want seen.
If they can verify if there is something to this, people will be lining up with cash in hand. You don't even have to go public, word of mouth will bring in da money.
((SURELY YOU GOT HACKED AND SOMEONE JUST TYPED THIS LAST PARAGRAPH; BECAUSE THE AXELWOLF I KNOW AND HAVE GROWN TO LOVE FEELS THIS WAY "... I don't go claiming to be a millionaire or outrageous claims, or that I can do the impossible, or I'm the best or know everything."))

Quote: Ayecarumba

What is keeping your friend from participting MaxSwelle? She won't have any of her actual money at risk, and stands to be compensated by you for her time, so it appears to be a freeroll for her. As the demonstration will be conducted at your house, her confidentiality is certainly assured. It appears that she has nothing to lose either way. Why doesn't she want to help you out?

Quote: odiousgambit

not to mention the ecstasy of more sex with one so equipped! I'm thinking if you even hinted that might come to an end, nay, merely reduced in frequency, she could be blackmailed into this!

Quote: MaxSwelle

Quote: AxelWolf

No real need, I think I have a tad bit more then 2900. However, She needs a bump in her BR, this would speed thins up significantly. ((WHAT YOU SUGGEST IS AN ALL OR NOTHING APPROACH. I WILL DEFER TO THIS FREQUENTLY, AS YOU SHOULD FOLLOW YOUR OWN ADVICE. RARELY ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOOLPROOF AND RESOLVE WITHOUT FAIL OR A WITHOUT A MARGIN OF ERROR. IF YOU ARE NOT A MILLIONAIRE AT THIS POINT THEN YOU COULD BE VIEWED AS A HYPOCRITE AND FULL OF SHIT. AS A SELF PROCLAIMED AP OF 20+YEARS, SURELY A "GO FOR BROKE" OPPORTUNITY HAS PRESENTED ITSELF. A CHANCE AT WHICH YOU DISREGARD CAUTION AND BREAK THE HOUSE INTO SPLINTERS AS YOU PLAYED WITH EVERY PENNY YOU AND YOUR TEAM COULD BEG, BORROW AND BORROW. WHEN YOU MADE THE DECISION TO PLAY FULL-TIME DID YOU EVER HAVE A SENSE OF TREPIDATION OR WERE YOUR ALWAYS OUT WITH BALLS'A SWINGIN'?))

I Do have partners I share information and occasionally have a few people that work for us. It's much, much more complicated then 1 game of craps and a bit of practice.
There are lots of tricks, grey, black and white, networking, information is key. ((NON SEQUITURS))

Unlike craps, Real AP divulging , especially real good AP secrets, is considered treasonous. ((SAYS YOU; AND SO WHAT! ARE YOU TRYING TO MAKE MONEY OR MAKE FRIENDS? THE WORD TREASONOUS, TO ME, DENOTES A VIOLATION OF AN EXPRESSED OR IMPLIED COVENANT OR BOND AS IT RELATES TO SOME SORT OF HONOR. THE HONOR EXISTS BETWEEN THE MEN, NOT SO MUCH THE WORLD OF AP AS A WHOLE. AP'S ARE HOVERING VULTURES WAITING FOR OPPORTUNITY. DOD EAT DOG, IF YOU WILL. ONE TEAM WILL BACK STAB THE OTHER IF IT MEANS THE DIFFERENCE IN THEM WINNING OR LOSING OUT ON A PLAY. STEP OFF THE PEDESTAL, IF YOU WOULD-I AIN'T BUYING AP'S WINNING MERIT BADGES.))

I have current and former partners, friends and peers to consider, people who I care about and respect, I have an unwritten allegiance to them. Going back as far as the early 90's. ((BRING THEM ON BOARD AS INSTRUCTORS, ADVISORS, MARKETERS, RESEARCHERS, ETC.))

If you have not noticed, I'm very anti information spreading, unless it's someone I trust. ((YET, YOU DEMAND PROOF FROM OTHERS WHEN THE SOLE PURPOSE THEIR POST WAS TO HAVE A QUESTION ANSWERED, NOT TO MAKE AN EXCLAMATION; THUSLY YOU ACT AS A PROPONENT FOR THE SPREADING OF INFORMATION FROM OTHERS.))


I don't talk about 99% of the stuff I do or have done.
Others here have meet me, or know who I am, Going all the way back to the 90s. Some have heard about interesting creative plays I found developed and been on. Some plays only 2 or 3 people know about in the world.
I played a few lesser known fair moderately long lasting plays, come to find out a few people from here also played at the same time period. Drich Is one person. (We have talked about it here, so i don't think he will mind.) ((TRANSLATION: AXELWOLF IS AN AP'S AP. HE CAN BE TRUSTED NEVER TO TELL OR REVEAL ANY TRADE SECRETS. HE TAKES LONG, DEEP BREATHS IN THE RARIFIED AIR AT WHICH HE EXISTS-WITH 2, POSSIBLY 3, OTHER PEOPLE. ADDITIONALLY, HE NEVER EVER EVER NAME DROPS; IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE HIM ASK DRICH.))


I also have partners who are members here as well. The few things I do say, will check out. (Some plays would blow YOUR mind ) I proceed with caution when I talk about anything. I really try to make sure its something that won't cause any harm. I wont argue to much about the legitimacy of anything I say, I will just out my money where my mouth is(unlike some). I don't go claiming to be a millionaire or outrageous claims, or that I can do the impossible, or I'm the best or know everything, I don't go posting pics of Jackpots and tax forms or whatever. ((NO, NOT ALL OF THE TIME - YOU SIMPLY ATTEMPT TO RIDICULE THOSE THAT DON'T CHOOSE TO ENTERTAIN YOUR DOUBTS. BUT, THE REST OF THE TIME YOU DO CHOOSE TO ACT AS IF YOU KNOW EVERYTHING. YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT AND HOW MUCH A PERSON SHOULD BET BASED ON DATA GATHERED FROM 3600 ROLLS OF THE DICE. YPU KNOW WHERE THEIR BANKROLL SHOULD BE. YOU KNOW THAT AN EMPIRE WILL BE CREATED, YET AGAIN, BY SIMPLY DUPLICATING AN EXISTING, HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS MODEL, PRIMARILY BUILT UPON TEACHING INDIVIDUALS DICE THROWING TECHNIQUES. IN OTHER WORDS, YOU KNOW HOW TO BUILD A BETTER MOUSETRAP.))

Unlike craps, There are not a lot of people yearning, spending their entire life searching for the holy grail. Craps has a cult like following.
Unlike craps, There are a limited amounts of plays and its always changing. Craps is 24/7 365 in most casinos around the world with big limits
Unlike craps, Almost ALL CASINOS BELIEVE IN REAL AP. AP has been proven mathematically and by actual results from many notable people. Very,very few believe in DI and Never will. ((IF YOU BUILD IT THEY WILL COME. THAT AND A COMPETENT MARKETING DEPARTMENT WILL ENSURE EXTREME WEALTH FOR YOU AND YOUR BACKERS. INTEREST IN POKER HAS NEVER BEEN GREATER, WHICH MEANS THAT AN INTEREST IN GAMBLING HAS NEVER BEEN GREATER. MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE GET RICH QUICK IDEOLOGY IS OLDER THAN DIRT. SO TRUST ME, YOUR'E WORNG ON THIS ONE.))

Your wonder woman gal pal as no real allegiance to anyone but herself. Its not really a big deal to yap about craps. Casinos are not going to run around worried about little miss DI teaching classes. DI Classes have been going on for years. DI advocates who talk shop among peers are celebrated. ((SEE AFOREMENTIONED))

I would have to pick one or the other ((NO SEQUITUR))

She can have her cake and eat me to, by teaching and playing. In one knight she could spike her BR 10 fold. if what you say is true. If some of the best most dedicated(Ahigh) DIs (dominator)and great minds( Wong) can't pull this off with consistently or at all. Her teaching wouldn't transfer to others, she is a, one of a kind anomaly. ((CONSISTENTLY AND NOT AT ALL ARE NOT SYNONYMOUS. IT WAS YOU THAT TOOK THE RESULTS OF 3600 ROLLS AND RAN UP THE HILL SCREAMING "FRAUD". A LACK OF CONSISTENCY IS ENOUGH TO COMPEL ANY REASONABLE PERSON TO TREAD LIGHTLY WITH A BANKROLL AND NOT "GO FOR BROKE" AS SOME KNUCKLEHEADS WOULD COUNSEL. HOWEVER, THE FREQUENT EXISTENCE OF WILLFULLY REPEATABLE RESULTS IS ENOUGH TO CAUSE ANY REASONABLE GAMBLER TO TAKE NOTICE. BEING AN EXPERT ON THE GAME OF CRAPS IN NO WAY TRANSLATES INTO HAVING THE PHYSICAL ABILITIES THAT ARE ABSOLUTELY REQUIRED TO MANIPULATE ONES HAND AND FINGERS ON TWO TINY CUBES THAT SOME CALL DI. A EXPERTS KNOWLEDGE OF CRAPS ISN'T EVEN ENOUGH TO TEACH SOMEONE HOW TO THROW AN INFLUENCED SHOT.))

Simple, just put a small hidden camera on her, Have her go play a bunch of sessions at a real casino. Make sure you pre-document the times and places you are going to go, so no cherry picking. Find the right person(someone notable) to sign a confidentiality statement. Block out anything you don't want seen.
If they can verify if there is something to this, people will be lining up with cash in hand. You don't even have to go public, word of mouth will bring in da money.
((SURELY YOU GOT HACKED AND SOMEONE JUST TYPED THIS LAST PARAGRAPH; BECAUSE THE AXELWOLF I KNOW AND HAVE GROWN TO LOVE FEELS THIS WAY "... I don't go claiming to be a millionaire or outrageous claims, or that I can do the impossible, or I'm the best or know everything."))

Quote: Ahigh

I would like to see some QI or quote influence on the above post. It appears that Axel is being quoted as saying some things that I don't think he said.

Quote: beachbumbabs

Ahigh,

Everything in caps is MaxSwelle's response inline to what AxelWolf said. He seems to be a bit challenged on how to break up quotes for multiple responses.

OH I GET IT.