TheWolf713
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October 31st, 2013 at 5:38:10 PM permalink
Hi guys,

"Advantage Craps Play" (Im Literally laughing as I type it) seems that it might have a little leverage.

I present the "IF" factors of Dice Setting:

IF #1: IF a shooter claims to have the ability to influence the dice. Why would he not just become "Mr.Seven out"???

Wouldn't this put him at an Advantage mathematically?

How do you guys feel about this concept?
"I'm a DO'er and you my friend, are a Don'ter" -Mark Walberg pain and Gain
DeMango
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October 31st, 2013 at 6:17:23 PM permalink
Great concept! Gamblers wouldn't go for this, it's an ego thing.
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JB85
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October 31st, 2013 at 6:32:54 PM permalink
Quote: TheWolf713

Hi guys,

"Advantage Craps Play" (Im Literally laughing as I type it) seems that it might have a little leverage.

I present the "IF" factors of Dice Setting:

IF #1: IF a shooter claims to have the ability to influence the dice. Why would he not just become "Mr.Seven out"???

Wouldn't this put him at an Advantage mathematically?

How do you guys feel about this concept?

I love it. I will often shoot from the don't on an empty or close to empty table. I will also is use a couple of different lay strategies to use the seven to my advantage. Like you said, it is the easiest number to hit;)
MrV
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October 31st, 2013 at 6:46:37 PM permalink
They would if they could but they can't so they don't.
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SpiderBob99
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November 2nd, 2013 at 5:56:39 AM permalink
I once actually shot from the don't pass and people were still playing the pass. I did well that day but I was just lofting the dice wanting them going random as possible ha ha ha. The table went from 6 of us to just 2 of us. Luck was on my side.
AlanMendelson
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November 2nd, 2013 at 12:38:49 PM permalink
We all have stories about the "ultra smart don't player" who loads everything on the don't pass and then makes point after point after point. If it were so easy, we'd all do it.
djatc
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November 2nd, 2013 at 5:15:34 PM permalink
I cleaned myself out of my bankroll playing the don't against myself at the Flamingo. Dealers were stunned and I refused to switch sides.
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TheWolf713
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November 3rd, 2013 at 4:25:10 AM permalink
Quote: djatc

I cleaned myself out of my bankroll playing the don't against myself at the Flamingo. Dealers were stunned and I refused to switch sides.



This does happen alot to players.. I believe the reason why is pretty simple... On a regular day, you throw to win and yet the seven always comes. But on the days you attempt to throw for the seven, you try as hard as you can to make the seven to come faster than it would happen organically and the reason is quite simple.
Some players change their sets, they even try to throw the dice in corners, and all kinds of wacky things. They forget all of their practice....

Any good craps shooter will tell you some of their greatest looking shots were a seven. Always keep that in mind... Why would you change anything?

The reason people really get their clock cleaned is they go against the probability odds while trying to do this.and they don't know this little secret.

This little bit of information is a jewel when shooting for the seven... I call it the option

When shooting for the seven you can initially place your bet on the don't pass line... Once the point has been established, on the first roll, YOU HAVE THE OPTION TO TAKE THAT BET TO THE PASS LINE... do you understand what that means. It means you do not have to bet against any number you do not want to... Especially a number in your favor...this puts the power in your corner.. I'll give an example.

We all know the probabilities of 6&8 coming... So on the come out roll you can have your bet on the DP. but if your point is a 6, you have the option to switch over...knowing my shot and taking a risk against the probability, I feel i can hit a six. The risk is minimal. Switch over and Shoot for the 6 and hit it. Winner... Then the next come out roll, you are back on the donts, and maybe a 4 is now point. You would then add odds and press with odds of your winnings from the six... We know the probability of the four, so eventually the 7 seven will come. Boom you are now Mr. Seven.

It's not always full proof, but it works... The only hazards you'll experience is the 7 on the come out. I don't hedge because I feel like it's a waste of money.. I use the 2V set which shoots an outside number. After that a regular set and shoot until the seven comes. Don't be phased if it takes a long time. It will come

Alot if people will start having what they consider to be good rolls and try to switch over... This is dangerous when doing this.. You have to commit to the side. If you are getting in a rythym and you knock yourself off 2 or three times..the rules of being a don't player apply. Just past the dice. Never let one player (including yourself) clear your bankroll. There will be other opportunities for the seven.

Let it work for you. Try it again.

Just a little jewel from TheWolf713
"I'm a DO'er and you my friend, are a Don'ter" -Mark Walberg pain and Gain
Mosca
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November 3rd, 2013 at 4:30:02 AM permalink
Oh hell, you don't have to set dice to be Mr 7-Out. I do it every time and I don't know shit about dice setting.
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TheWolf713
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November 3rd, 2013 at 4:36:25 AM permalink
You are correct... In other words you let it happen organically....
"I'm a DO'er and you my friend, are a Don'ter" -Mark Walberg pain and Gain

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