guido111
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May 26th, 2012 at 3:00:05 PM permalink
I will be the first.
Many may want to see different stats from a session.
Let us see where this goes.

This was 323 rolls at the Golden Nugget in Las Vegas May 22, 2007
I did not write down the time

rolls read across: 8,6,9,9,5 etc.
22=hard4
33=hard6
44=hard8
55=hard10
data from excel

rolls group 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18
18 1 8 6 9 9 5 7 11 10 8 9 8 3 9 33 10 4 2 3
36 2 4 8 9 5 6 10 8 11 10 8 10 9 5 7 6 5 3 5
54 3 7 8 3 7 5 7 6 7 6 44 7 6 8 12 8 10 9 7
72 4 6 12 9 6 10 3 44 22 7 6 9 33 5 6 3 9 44 7
90 5 8 44 7 10 8 4 44 10 55 8 9 7 8 8 8 7 6 5
108 6 2 8 9 22 3 6 8 7 7 6 10 11 12 33 3 7 6 11
126 7 5 12 55 4 5 8 7 11 9 7 3 7 9 33 4 9 7 10
144 8 10 6 6 2 6 6 7 6 7 9 5 9 2 9 7 2 6 7
162 9 11 6 8 7 5 5 10 5 11 6 6 9 8 4 7 5 7 55
180 10 22 5 9 9 11 12 55 7 9 6 5 11 6 11 8 8 44 9
198 11 4 9 9 6 9 11 9 7 11 9 6 4 7 9 10 2 3 5
216 12 6 8 8 7 7 6 5 5 7 55 8 7 2 12 7 7 5 7
234 13 11 22 11 7 9 10 7 5 10 6 2 4 3 5 6 9 4 7
252 14 7 9 7 22 8 6 7 11 9 10 8 9 5 4 7 7 7 55
270 15 7 5 8 6 5 9 22 6 12 22 11 7 44 44 9 6 9 7
288 16 3 55 12 3 22 11 33 11 44 9 33 9 7 4 6 11 5 6
306 17 6 2 4 12 5 12 6 9 8 7 7 7 11 5 3 8 5 9
324 18 7 3 7 6 6 9 12 5 11 9 10 5 5 7 7 9 7

rolls per shooter (from WinCraps)
shooter	rolls	
1 8 6 9 9 5 7
2 11 10 8 9 8 3 9 33 6 10 4 2 3 4 8 9 5 6 10 8 11 10 8 10 9 5 7
3 6 5 3 5 7
4 8 3 7
5 5 7
6 6 7
7 6 44 8 7
8 6 8 12 8 10 9 7
9 6 12 9 6 10 3 44 8 22 4 7
10 6 9 33 6 5 6 3 9 44 8 7
11 8 44 8 7 10 8 4 44 8 10 55 10 8 9 7
12 8 8 8 7
13 6 5 2 8 9 22 4 3 6 8 7
14 7 6 10 11 12 33 6 3 7 6 11 5 12 55 10 4 5 8 7
15 11 9 7
16 3 7 9 33 6 4 9 7 10 10 6 6 2 6 6 7 6 7
17 9 5 9 2 9 7
18 2 6 7
19 11 6 8 7
20 5 5 10 5 11 6 6 9 8 4 7
21 5 7
22 55 10 22 4 5 9 9 11 12 55 10 7 9 6 5 11 6 11 8 8 44 8 9 4 9 9 6 9 11 9 7
23 11 9 6 4 7
24 9 10 2 3 5 6 8 8 7
25 7 6 5 5 7
26 55 10 8 7
27 2 12 7 7 5 7
28 11 22 4 11 7
29 9 10 7
30 5 10 6 2 4 3 5 6 9 4 7
31 7 9 7
32 22 4 8 6 7
33 11 9 10 8 9 5 4 7
34 7 7 55 10 7
35 5 8 6 5 9 22 4 6 12 22 4 11 7
36 44 8 44 8 9 6 9 7 3 55 10 12 3 22 4 11 33 6 11 44 8 9 33 6 9 7
37 4 6 11 5 6 6 2 4 12 5 12 6 9 8 7
38 7 7 11 5 3 8 5 9 7
39 3 7 6 6 9 12 5 11 9 10 5 5 7
40 7 9 7

What each shooter did during the hand (from WinCraps)
shooter   decision
1 Miss-8
2 Pass-11
2 Pass-10
2 Pass-4
2 Pass-8
2 Pass-11
2 Pass-10
2 Miss-9
3 Miss-6
4 Miss-8
5 Miss-5
6 Miss-6
7 Miss-6
8 Miss-6
9 Pass-6
9 Miss-10
10 Pass-6
10 Miss-5
11 Pass-8
11 Pass-7
11 Pass-10
11 Miss-10
12 Pass-8
12 Miss-8
13 Pass-6
13 Miss-8
14 Pass-7
14 Pass-6
14 Miss-3
14 Pass-7
14 Miss-6
15 Pass-11
15 Miss-9
16 Miss-3
16 Pass-7
16 Pass-9
16 Pass-7
16 Pass-10
16 Pass-6
16 Miss-2
16 Pass-6
16 Pass-7
16 Miss-6
17 Pass-9
17 Miss-2
17 Miss-9
18 Miss-2
18 Miss-6
19 Pass-11
19 Miss-6
20 Pass-5
20 Miss-10
21 Miss-5
22 Pass-10
22 Pass-7
22 Pass-9
22 Miss-4
23 Pass-11
23 Miss-9
24 Miss-9
25 Pass-7
25 Miss-6
26 Miss-10
27 Miss-2
27 Miss-12
27 Pass-7
27 Pass-7
27 Miss-5
28 Pass-11
28 Miss-4
29 Miss-9
30 Pass-5
30 Miss-6
31 Pass-7
31 Miss-9
32 Miss-4
33 Pass-11
33 Pass-9
33 Miss-5
34 Pass-7
34 Pass-7
34 Miss-10
35 Pass-5
35 Miss-9
36 Pass-8
36 Pass-9
36 Pass-7
36 Miss-3
36 Miss-10
37 Pass-4
37 Miss-12
37 Miss-5
38 Pass-7
38 Pass-7
38 Pass-11
38 Pass-5
38 Miss-9
39 Miss-3
39 Pass-7
39 Pass-6
39 Pass-9
39 Miss-10
40 Pass-7
40 Miss-9

from Excel

An observation: Half of all shooters 7out in 6 rolls or less.
Close

I made good money from this session, even with all the fast outs.

Truth be known, I was the 40th shooter!
7 winner, point7out

Summary of the session
Look at the number of points established and number that passed.
The math for 104 come out rolls is to establish 69.3 points =(104*(2/3))
Of the 68 points established how many points won?
ev = (201/495)*68 or 27.61
Interesting
From WinCraps


roll totals
the 6 and 8 have disappeared. were they due?
odiousgambit
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May 26th, 2012 at 5:32:01 PM permalink
that last stuff is from Wincraps. You did your own rolls on Wincraps to get stats on real rolls?

looks to me like 6 rolled more than expected. What is your point about the 6 and 8?

I think I would have to pass the dice and sometimes not bet to keep up with writing down rolls as they happen. Never done it.
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guido111
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May 26th, 2012 at 6:30:16 PM permalink
Quote: odiousgambit

that last stuff is from Wincraps. You did your own rolls on Wincraps to get stats on real rolls?

looks to me like 6 rolled more than expected. What is your point about the 6 and 8?

I think I would have to pass the dice and sometimes not bet to keep up with writing down rolls as they happen. Never done it.

Thanks.
After tracking all the rolls, it is very easy to enter them into WinCraps and save them for later use. You can also enter them from a text file if they are in the correct format. Again, easy stuff, just a few minutes while watching TV.

My point on the 6&8 is it had been 12 rolls since the 6 rolled and 19 since the 8 rolled.
Should I have left the table knowing this?

It takes one second to write down the dice roll.
Then you are back in the game even B4 stick has a chance to get the dice to the center of the table.

People always laugh at me when I track, I just tell them I enjoy calculating the speed of the dice, that always gets a boxman to see what I am doing :)
After that, most want to know how many dice rolls they just had B4 their 7out.
They always ask me. I wonder why.

I have been accused a few times of not writing down all the rolls.
One drunk shooter claimed he rolled at least 20 rolls B4 his 7out and when I told him it was only 8, he called me a liar and I did not write all his rolls down, even when his friend told him he was wrong.
The table and crew had a great laugh!
odiousgambit
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May 27th, 2012 at 1:17:01 AM permalink
Quote: guido111

My point on the 6&8 is it had been 12 rolls since the 6 rolled and 19 since the 8 rolled.



Oh, the last column shows that in that graphic. I forgot about that feature, it comes in handy sometimes.

I admire your comfort at a craps table. I get there and the excitement of it all I sometimes have trouble remembering how I planned to do my betting, forget to bet, forget to check payoffs, etc. I really hate it when I forget I have a number working on a previous come bet, but it happens. And all that is when I am the only guy at the table ! [g] Well, not really but when that happens the focus all on me does make me nervous.

I wonder if we will hear from someone else charting their own games.
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May 27th, 2012 at 10:29:46 AM permalink
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June 4th, 2012 at 3:00:37 PM permalink
how are you tracking rolls?
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