Craps Anomalies - Craps is Random but Anomalies happen all the time.

Craps is random but Anomalies happen all the time. Please list the anomaly that occurred during your craps session. If you notice there's an anomaly that occurs a lot during your own dice throwing game through the years; please feel free to list it also. This is an attempt to ascertain how often anomalies occur during each craps session.

*Please feel free to list any gambling related anomaly; it does not have to be solely confined to Craps.

Quote: CrapsForever

(mind you, I am a Math guy)
There’s a new day dawning in Craps, a day where we see anomalies and all make money on it.

*When I call “Off” while shooting, something does not feel right, I will usually 7 out immediately (More than 50% of the time) You’ll save your bankroll more often than not by also calling “Off” on your bets.

Where to start... I guess since this is your second post saying you can 'feel' when you will be rolling a 7, I am now willing to bet you can't. You say there are select times during a roll that you know a 7 will be coming up with greater than 50% certainty. I'll bet you, say, $5000 (you can pick a higher number if you want), that during your rolls at any Vegas casino, or either of my 3 local casinos, that in any 20 rolls you select, over, any time period you select during your stay, that less than 10 will be 7's. So you only have to reach 10 of 20 to win. I'll pay to fly you up here to Niagara Falls/Buffalo, or to Vegas. I'll also buy you a celebratory dinner (regardless of which of us is celebrating). You let me know....

The problem with making money on 'anomalies' is that you don't know that they are GOING to happen, but you can know that they already HAVE happened. My last roll a lady rolled 4 4's in a row. After it happened I made note of it. Before it happened I was expecting the anomaly of 4 11's in a row....

I am serious about the bet. Maybe if you can make it to Vegas for the HB weigh in in October we can get it on! If not I will fly you up here on my dime, and NF is a great place to visit in the summertime.

It take all kinds CF but you and I would not get along on a craps table. I would buy-in during your roll with money on the table. That would drive you crazy, and you would pull your bets down and bet big red. I can't stand shooters that lose the faith and bet against themselve other than dark side rollers so we would be totally pissed at each other.

On your main question, you might like me throwing. Even though I never bet hardways I throw a lot, particularly hard 8. So much so that I have often been at a table when the dice will be passed around to me to keep the hardways coming.

Hahaha I disagree with everything you said :)

But thanks for writing. It's fun to talk about craps. The superstitions make the game interesting even though I cannot stand them sometimes.

The only anamoly I would like to see is 4,10,4,4,4,10,4,10,4,10,10,4,4,10 when I am playing a progression system at Santa Ana Star :)

Interesting

Quote: CrapsForever

CrapsForever's Craps Anomalies:

Nice.
Try this experiment. It will be scientific since nothing you posted is scientific.

Write down in a small notebook each and every roll you make and all others make when you are at Craps table.
This WILL take your "feelings and selective memory" out of the data.

Download WinCraps -- It is free to use.

Enter all the dice rolls in order and play them.
The program will show you all the data averages and the theoritical values as well.

You will then see what random is all about in the game of Craps.

Never forget about random events, because once you have a few of them together,
ev and variance tells us the possible ranges of all the possible outcomes.

You *must* feel that to be true.

I do.
And I only go on my feelings when I play Craps and they are not the same as yours, proof that I make more money playing craps than you because I understand my feelings from random events better than you or the next guy.

Quote: CrapsForever

* 7 out on the roll after the point is established greater than 50% of the time.

Right way players believe that.
Wrong ways players do not.
In a small sample size, sure it can and does happen.

Sure 1 in 9 shooters will point7.
but 55/196 or 28.0612245% of all shooters will have a point7 on average.

Let us NOT talk about variance.

No one should believe in variance, only averages.

1 out of 9 shooters MUST 7out or it is an anomaly.

No more or no less. That is what the math of randomness says. Nice.

Quote: CrapsForever

* Make a point (less than 20% of the time).

My feelings say you are way off. I have 22 years of Dice dealing and craps play to back me up.
When I play the don't side, over 60% of all points are won.
When I play the pass line and do NOT take full odds, over 83% (5 out of 6) points are made.
The average. There IS no average.

Quote: CrapsForever

*If I make a point (rarely), it will usually happen on the roll immediately after the comeout roll (more than 70% of the time).

I always make my points 99% of the time shooting from the pass line when I do not take odds because the table is cold.

Quote: CrapsForever

* Throw a lot of repeating Horn numbers especially on the comeout roll.

WOW. I never throw a horn number on the come out roll. Never in 22 years of play.
Now, Placing $640 across I always, 99.9% of the time will throw many horn numbers in a row before the 7out. My longest was 9.

Quote: CrapsForever

* If I throw a hardway number during the game, I usually Seven out within a couple of rolls.

Not me! Once I throw one hardway, I always throw 2 more B4 losing one. Always.
You must not know how to throw the dice.
It is a skill only a few can ever master.

Quote: CrapsForever

*My first roll after the comeout point is established is usually (7, Horn, the Point) in that respective order.

I agree with you there. (6+6+4 = 16/36 or 44.4% of the time)

Quote: CrapsForever

*If I throw a number (Non-7, Non-Horn, Non-Point, Non-Hardway) on the first roll after the point is established, get ready for a scorcher and to make lots of $$$.

I agree with you on that one, except when I have at least $54 across,
full odds anywhere,
at least $1 on all hardways,
$4 horn minimum,
at least a $2 C&E and
at least a $5 pass line bet,
at least a $10 don't pass line bet,
at least a $ bet for the Dealers.

Quote: CrapsForever

*When I call “Off” while shooting, something does not feel right, I will usually 7 out immediately (More than 50% of the time) You’ll save your bankroll more often than not by also calling “Off” on your bets.

Not me. Every time, I call off my bets because something does not feel right, I lose money because one of my bets Always wins. Every time.

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I am so glad I win more money than you at a Craps table because I use math to understand my feelings and *I track the dice rolls* in a small notebook.
That makes everyone laugh and say I am just wasting my time writing down each roll.
everyone!
Except when they want to know how many rolls they just had in 30 minutes. Then when I tell them it was only 11 they say I am a liar and do not know anything.

My friend was betting $60 on the Place6 and 8 and I asked him during a nice roll by a chicken feeder what numbers have yet to roll since he was bitching that no 6s and 8s have not rolled yet, he said "bitch" and he said the 5 and 9 have not rolled yet, but the Dealer disagreed because he had paid a 5 one time (my place5). I looked at my notes and there were 2 5s and 1 9 by the same shooter. They were both wrong!

Yes, she 7out on the next roll because I was NOT paying attention on the game.

I am in Buffalo, not Las Vegas, but I love going to Vegas! If we can get together I would definitely take the bet that you will not 'be correct on more than 25% of my "Any 7" bets, but we must agree on a number of such. If you are allowed to stop after going 1 out of 3 then that is not what I had in mind. You must pick a number of rolls in advance. How many times in a session do you typically make an 'any 7' bet? If you say 22, as an example, then you would need to hit 6 of those 22 to exceed 25%. That's a bet I would take! I'd let you chose the amount you want to bet.

The horn bet 'bet' you suggest is an even bet, so I won't take it. Half the time you WILL exceed the expected probability, half the time you will fall short.

Same for calling out the 7 16.67 % of the time. half of the time you will exceed 16.67%, half of the time you will fall short.

Unfortunately I cant be in either Chicago or AC on the dates you will be there. I don't know if you make it out to Vegas... but October 17- 21 I'll be there for the HB weigh in. If you can make it I'd love to do the first bet, plus you'd get to meet a lot of the regulars here. I may make it to Vegas before then, or maybe even AC, but no plans as of now.

Craps is a high variance game, most players either feel 'cold' or 'sizzling hot' a large percentage of their 'sessions' in any game that has high variance.

Quote: SOOPOO

Craps is a high variance game, most players either feel 'cold' or 'sizzling hot' a large percentage of their 'sessions' in any game that has high variance.

You forgot feeling chopped up

Interesting....

Quote: 7craps

You forgot feeling chopped up

I'll take a hot or cold craps table. I can stay in a game when it's hot and attempt to stay out when it's cold. When it's choppy, my bankroll will be finished shortly.

I say a Craps table is choppy 5/6 of the time.
Hot 1/12 of the time
Cold 1/12 of the time

So, CF, I lose too.

That chopped up feeling, sliced, diced and spliced!

Quote: CrapsForever

I would love playing with you on the table when you are hitting the hardways. Where are you located? Sounds like a money making opportunity. When people buy in during my roll, I don't go crazy anymore, I just take me money off the table and will NOT put it back on during the roll so they are probably helping me save money in an indirect way. I bet Big Red on the next roll, then two additional come bets. I don't get to place the 2nd come bet too often.

Most of the time that I have made a lot of $$$ winning parlaying hardways bets; the shooter is never playing it. I always tip shooters who make multiple hardways so you'll like me betting with you on a table. When I go on my horn frenzy streaks; I'm usually not betting on it but other players who notice the trend early jump on it and some say.."Don't bet it, don't change anything, keep throwing, We'll take care of you", I will never refuse a tip on a Craps table so no complaints.

I bet a $2 C&E on every single of my throws after the point is established; it works out quite well for me. I've seen players at many different casinos bet $5/$10 Horn on every single one of my throws. I am a small time craps player ($500 per session bankroll) so I can't afford to make crazy one roll bets but people that have a large bankroll tend to like playing with me on the table.

FYI, I am not a Dice Setter, not sure if they truly exist but all the stats that I have provided are just what happens. I usually lose $$$ when I am shooting because of early 7-outs so I try not to shoot the dice as much. I always pass the dice back to the "hot" shooter.

Glad to see you have a sense of humour, love to throw a bunch of hardways for you. I get to Vegas every couple of years but most of my craps is in Vancouver, BC. It is the only place in BC that has craps none of the casinos outside of greater Vancouver have craps. Make the occassional trip to Calgary as well to visit my grandson. Not sure that our paths will cross but I will be posting my next trip to Vegas which should be within the next few months.

Groovy...

Quote: CrapsForever

I really want to stress that I am not making any outlandish claims here.
I am just saying what I have learned about myself through 12 years of me playing Craps.

The problem is you have learned by your selective memory only.
Us humans memory, short and long term, is patheic.

Track the dice rolls. It IS the proof.

When I first started rolling dice years ago, I realy thought I rolled more Fields than anyone else, I even had many players point it out.
So I believed it. Many times 10 or more in a row.
I even made money from betting the field, at first.

Then a math genius I met suggested to me to track dice rolls, place them in a spreadsheet and see the results.
So I did. I tracked mine and others.
The others was easy.
Cal-Neva in Reno has an open 2nd floor that over looks the Craps table, I would just sit down and have a birds-eye-view of every roll. No one ever bothered me. One summer I tracked over 4,000 of my dice rolls and 22,000 others, then I found WinCraps.

I was still convinced I ROLLED MORE FIELDS THAN ANYONE ELSE.
I knew what the proof was. My memory and actually seeing it with my own non-drunk eyes
I SAW IT, I REMEMBERED IT, OTHERS TOLD ME THAT I DID IN FACT DO IT.

The tracked dice rolls proved EVERYONE, including little old me WAS WRONG!
PERIOD!

My Field rolling was very close to 44.38%.
I was bummed out.
But I still KNEW I rolled more than others, and what the tracking showed.
Nope.
I was wrong.
Everyone is wrong unless they have actual data to back them up!

NBA playoffs and south park is on.
cant go wrong there!

7Craps, are you Santa Claus?
There's a guy in Reno that tracks rolls (he carries a little notepad)..looks just like Santa...is that you??

Craps Session 5/3

*10 Shooters CONSECUTIVELY 7'out within 2 rolls of establishing the Point.

*Shooter A hits 5 Horns in a row.

*Shooter A hits 5 10's in a row.

SOOPOO I might want to take you up on your bet sometime in the future.Keyword: Might. Just because it would be fun. I feel like I roll an inordinate number of 4's and 10's relative to the other box numbers. Of course this could all be in my head.

I bet I could roll at least 15 fours or 15 tens over the course of 100 rolls. I can't bet very much though, haha.

Craps Session 5/5

* Dice off the table, next roll 7-out 12 times in a row (Multiple Shooters).

** "Shooter A" Point 7'out (PSO) 6 times in a row.

Quote: ewjones080

SOOPOO I might want to take you up on your bet sometime in the future.Keyword: Might. Just because it would be fun. I feel like I roll an inordinate number of 4's and 10's relative to the other box numbers. Of course this could all be in my head.

I bet I could roll at least 15 fours or 15 tens over the course of 100 rolls. I can't bet very much though, haha.

You are on, EW! You will be declared the winner if you roll either 15 4's or 15 10's in 100 rolls. Of course we select the 100 rolls BEFORE the bet. And I'll make it even easier for you. If you get to 13 for both 4's and 10's, you win, too. The minimum bet I accept is $5. For this bet there essentially is no maximum.

Quote: CrapsForever

Craps Session 5/3

*10 Shooters CONSECUTIVELY 7'out within 2 rolls of establishing the Point.

*Shooter A hits 5 Horns in a row.

*Shooter A hits 5 10's in a row.

Not even close to being rare events.
(where is the written/documented proof?)
Most Craps players have no clue to what is expected to happen, on average, with any shooter or any number of shooters.

NO shooter can ever 7out on the first roll.

1 in 9
7out on the 2nd roll (11.11%)
slightly more than 1 in 9
7out on the 3rd roll (11.7%)
That makes about 22.8%. So out of 1 million shooters (random AND DIs) over 228,000 will 7out by the 3rd roll.

slightly more than 1 in 10 will 7out on the 4th roll (10.5%)
about 33.3% 7 out by the 4th roll.

50% of all shooters will 7out by the 6th roll.

CNN&N Headline News
Horrible Craps Shooter Events happening in Las Vegas. Fixed tables or Loaded Dice or just normal?
News at 11

Quote: TIMSPEED

7Craps, are you Santa Claus?
There's a guy in Reno that tracks rolls (he carries a little notepad)..looks just like Santa...is that you??

Nope. Last time in Reno/Sparks was Jan 2001.
Every casino has at least one table tracker. Can not recall seeing Santa.
Ask him what he tracks the next time you see him.

I tell people I track the number of rolls per shooter and the speed of the dice rolls.
Ones memory is not good enough to be 100% accurate in these cases!
I use the data to make friendly even money side bets against any shooter, especially DIs, that they will 7out by the 9th roll. (they win the bet if they can get past 8 rolls without 7out)
Data talks, all else walks.

I think most players at a craps table lose all grip on the reality of what they experience, see, do, during play... even the number of throws by a shooter and the time a shooter holds the dice.

I have a habit of noting the time when each shooter gets the dice, hoping that someday I will be able to say "I was there when he held the dice for four hours...."

Well, a couple of years ago a young guy had a great hand. I made about a thousand dollars on his hand, and other players at the table made as much or even more depending on how much they bet, pressed, etc.

When the young man finally 7d out, I asked the dealer and players on my side of the table "how long do you think he had the dice?" The dealer said "at least a half hour." The three other players on my side of table said about a half hour.

The young guy held the dice for TWELVE MINUTES. That's all. 12 minutes. But rolls came so fast, and the payoffs came so fast -- no interruptions, no disputes, no dice off the table, no ordering drinks between throws, no kissing girlfriends, no changing bets, no delays -- that it seemed the roll went on forever.

It was only 12 minutes. You can win a lot of money in 12 minutes. And in 12 minutes all of your perceptions can change.

Quote: AlanMendelson

I think most players at a craps table lose all grip on the reality of what they experience, see, do, during play... even the number of throws by a shooter and the time a shooter holds the dice.

I know this to be true, by players AND dealers.

Quote: AlanMendelson

I have a habit of noting the time when each shooter gets the dice, hoping that someday I will be able to say "I was there when he held the dice for four hours...."

Time has different rates at a Craps table.
Albert Einstein's hair in his later days was said to be the result of not being able to calculate the exact Time at a Craps table.
Sometimes the time went very slow, others very fast.
He might have thought that it could disprove somehow his Theory of Relativity.

Quote: 7craps

I know this to be true, by players AND dealers.

I say that is not a good habit to get in to unless you can back it up with the exact number of rolls. Most can't.
I had a 45 minute hand at The Vegas Club and another at El Cortez. Not one had more than 15 rolls. Pathetic.
Slow dealers and many in game buy-ins. Still made money but took forever to roll the dice.

It is all about the number of actual rolls.
Time does not make money for anyone at a Craps table.
The number of rolls do.

Time has different rates at a Craps table.
Albert Einstein's hair in his later days was said to be the result of not being able to calculate the exact Time at a Craps table.
Sometimes the time went very slow, others very fast.
He might have thought that it could disprove somehow his Theory of Relativity.

EXCELLENT point. People always talk about the length of time of a roll and not the number of actual rolls, because it's all but impossible for the gamblers and dealers to keep track. Nobody really cares to keep exact track of rolls. Time seems to be easier to keep track of, but apparently that isn't accurate either. I always tell people time doesn't mean anything.

Once I had a 40 minute roll (I checked the clock before I started and when I was done) but another time rolled as many if not MORE rolls in about 20-25 minutes a year before that.

Dealers at least do have some sense of how long a roll is, because they do twenty minute stints at each position. So if a guy gets the dice just before I get off stick, then sevens out just after I get on 3rd base, I know he held the dice for at least 40 minutes.

5/8 Craps Session

Worst craps session I've witnessed in a long time. Both $5 Craps tables completely empty for one whole hour after 2 hours of nothing but 7 outs.

The Female Virgin Roller "myth" re-emerges. First time roller (female) rolling for her companion, picks up dice, randomly throws and hits 5 consecutive points, Rolls for 30 minutes.

The last 3 "hot" shooters in my last few craps sessions have all been women!

First time women shooters are no myth. It is the real deal! I have made good money on first time women shooters. In fact, I hit a 5 point Fire Bet two times on first time women shooters!

ed4313223

Yea I am sure you are right. I personally don't like "Lady Luck" shooters. But first timers seem to do well for me. Of course, that could change anytime.

By the way:

Dice off the table, followed by a crap number, pretty strong indicator of a 7....(Haha you believe what you will)

I had a virgin shooter make me some money once... it was a guy..ppff. The tall big breasted brunette in the tight yellow skirt, only hit once on the 6.

Quote: JamieV

By the way:

Dice off the table, followed by a crap number, pretty strong indicator of a 7....(Haha you believe what you will)

LOL. Happened 5 times out of 6 yesterday during my craps session yesterday. Called my bets "off" and bet the "Any 7's", ("Hop 7's" is not available at my local joint) each time and made a profit on that scenario.

Not sure if you read my Craps report on 5/5 earlier in this thread; Dice off the table, next roll 7 happened TWELVE times in a row!

Quote: JamieV

Dice off the table, followed by a crap number, pretty strong indicator of a 7....(Haha you believe what you will)

I honestly believe that!
Everytime the dice go off the table, I usually BET the craps ($2 High/Low and $2 Ace-Deuce)...of course if it hits, I'm taking all my action down and just watching the 7-out.

Quote: TIMSPEED

I honestly believe that!
Everytime the dice go off the table, I usually BET the craps ($2 High/Low and $2 Ace-Deuce)...of course if it hits, I'm taking all my action down and just watching the 7-out.

Call "off" your bets, Bet the Any 7/Hop 7's with a little C&E/Horn Action once you "feel" the 7 is going to hit. Best bet in the house at the appropriate time.

TIMSPEED, you are the one who taught me to bet on the "Trends" in Craps. Follow your own advice!

No Limit Texas Hold'em Poker Anomaly (5/12)

I got dealt Pocket Aces today, player to my left also had Pocket Aces. I have NEVER seen two players with Pocket Aces seated next to each other ever.

Now the worst part of the story, I raised Pre-flop ($20) he re-raised ($40), a 3rd Player (Short-stacked with $75 total called), I went All-in ($160 additional) both players called. We all flipped our cards over, once I saw we both had Pocket Aces, I had a BAD feeling we would lose to the 3rd Player. 3rd player says, "Better hope Diamonds don't hit". Flop is thrash (With One Diamond), Turn (Diamond), River (Diamond), 3rd player had Jack/7 Diamonds.

TWO players (including yours truly) with Pocket Aces lose to a player with Jack/7 Diamonds! I hate Texas Hold'em Poker!!!!!

No Limit Texas Hold'em (5/16)

Every Single time I've played No Limit Texas Hold'em Poker at a specific Poker Room; I have been UP at least 50% of my initial buy-in ($100 - $200); EVERY SINGLE SESSION (30+ Sessions).

Does this qualify as an Anomaly?

I usually give the money back trying to double up my original buy-in but left today with a 125% profit. Slow played Pocket Aces which I never do but I paired up the board on the river and counterfeited my opponent (Heads-up) who was All-in and leading before the river with 2 small pairs.

Additionally, won on my "lucky" slot machine for the 7th straight session. It was only a $20 profit but that still counts as a profit in my book.

Good Times!

Worst shooting in Craps History???

I had 12 consecutive 7-Outs today including 10 Point 7-Outs. How is that possible??? Can someone please calculate the odds of both of those events occurring in a single craps session (8 hours)?

I need a LONG nap!

One in 1,265,876.42387 Approximately.

Quote: CrapsForever

Worst shooting in Craps History???

I had 12 consecutive 7-Outs today including 10 Point 7-Outs. How is that possible??? Can someone please calculate the odds of both of those events occurring in a single craps session (8 hours)?

I need a LONG nap!

I'm sick..LOL..I'm debating whether or not I want to play $2 craps tonight (leaving for Reno shortly)...I need comps, LOL.

I've seen 16+ main points missed in a row.

Quote: TIMSPEED

I'm sick..LOL..I'm debating whether or not I want to play $2 craps tonight (leaving for Reno shortly)...I need comps, LOL.

You can buy comps at a discount. Just go home and return with the money you did not lose at craps. LOL

Quote: teddys

I've seen 16+ main points missed in a row.

By the same shooter?

Quote: CrapsForever

By the same shooter?

No.

Playing Craps yesterday....young guy gets the dice...apparently he's only playing craps for the 3rd time in his life. I ask him "What numbers do you throw?", he replies..."I like 11's", I did not make a bet yet but he proceeds to throw THREE 11's IN A ROW; I bet $5 on the last throw and won $75. The kid didn't even make a bet on the Yo-Eleven. It was one of the most amazing things I have EVER seen in my life.

I should have bet $5 on his first attempt and continued pressing by $5. Damn! This is why I LOVE Craps so much; the kid was just flinging dice not knowing what he was doing....and he was throwing Horns like crazy!

Quote: CrapsForever

I should have bet $5 on his first attempt and continued pressing by $5. Damn! This is why I LOVE Craps so much; the kid was just flinging dice not knowing what he was doing....and he was throwing Horns like crazy!

What if just after saying that he liked 11's, he had thrown a 7. Would it have stuck in your mind as strongly?

Quote: FleaStiff

What if just after saying that he liked 11's, he had thrown a 7. Would it have stuck in your mind as strongly?

Throwing Three 11's in a row right after saying you like throwing 11's is an amazing feat, regardless of the circumstances. It was obviously a lucky coincidence but it was an AMAZING coincidence!

By the way, he threw 6 11's in 12 rolls. Small sample size but impressive nonetheless!

Quote: CrapsForever

Throwing Three 11's in a row right after saying you like throwing 11's is an amazing feat, regardless of the circumstances. It was obviously a lucky coincidence but it was an AMAZING coincidence!

By the way, he threw 6 11's in 12 rolls. Small sample size but impressive nonetheless!

If I am playing 6/8 and maybe the point on a table and someone repeats another number several times, I'll often place a minimum bet on that number and see what happens. I have one chance to lose that bet, but I may just win a little on their repeating numbers. I'm not going "all in" on their streak but why not see how it plays out? We never know when the streaks are going to happen...but a guess here and there has turned a session around more than once. No one knows what the dice will do and they sure won't follow the exact probabilities for each number over a short period of time...

The last time I played craps the waitress was a cooler. Every time she showed up at the table, the shooter sevened-out, at least by the time she left. I finally caught on and took my bets off and placed no 4 and no 10. This went on for the rest of my session when she went off duty. I bit my tongue to avoid jinxing the whole thing, although I did brag about it at the end. I made $150 just on the waitress. I'm sure this will never happen again. Anomalies can be just about anything: 11s coming in bunches (or any other number), hot shooters, cold shooters (which of course is very common but the leave so soon) or any other out-of-random sequence (trend) that you can identify. Unfortunately, trends end. So don't spend your profit chasing it after it stops.

Quote: CrapsForever

Craps is random but Anomalies happen all the time. Please list the anomaly that occurred during your craps session. If you notice there's an anomaly that occurs a lot during your own dice throwing game through the years; please feel free to list it also. This is an attempt to ascertain how often anomalies occur during each craps session.

*Please feel free to list any gambling related anomaly; it does not have to be solely confined to Craps.

I used to just bet the pass line with odds, and then occasionally place 6,8 and never won. Ever. I would always slowly bleed down to nothing.

However, ever since I started betting using a system, I often win money, I mean OFTEN. (Just last Thurs, won $300 at Viejas.) Anyway, I guess since ALL betting systems are worthless, we could call that a serious anomaly.

Anomolies happen randomly, else the system isn't random.

Recent Craps Anomalies that I have witnessed:

1) Live Craps Table: Back-to-Back Shooters hit 6 Points consecutively.

2) *Organic Craps: 7 appearing after 11 is occuring on 50% of rolls over 4 sessions (Over 16 hours of play). I met a guy who writes down every number rolled; he has been at the same machine for 6 sessions and 7 appearing after 11 is running at 42%.

3) *Live Table: 3 different people made over $2,000 off a $10 bet on Horns/Hardways in 4 rolls or less.

I was speaking to the guy who was tracking every single number thrown on the Craps machine; he came up with a "system" where he bets the Any Seven at certain time periods; he hit it 3 consecutive times yesterday but then he also made other bets; he was averaging ONE bet every 20 minutes. After 2 hours of play, he was up 30% and was happy. Then I truly realized "systems" are stupid and not fun. He spent 2 hours yesterday to make $30??? What's the point? I was laying the 4 & 10 (Hedging with Hard 4 & Hard 10) after every 11 thrown, it worked for a while until 4 consecutive Soft 4's and Soft 10's combined after 11 appeared destroyed my bankroll.

Guy next to us at the Interlock Craps machine said, "I know your numbers are right (7's after 11's) but it takes the fun out of the game. I bet $22 inside and power press all the way after recovering my $22 back every time I play. On a Live table, I made $24,000 off a $22 buy-in a few years back on a 45 minute roll @ 2am in Vegas when a hot shooter went on a crazy run on a table with just two of us playing"

Somehow, this comment stuck with me because I have met a few people through the years who have made outrageous amounts of money, foregoing the Math of the game and tracking rolls. They make the same bets regardless of table conditions, recent shooters history, superstitions, facts, etc. The last 2 craps sessions this past week, I saw 3 different people make over $2,000 on 4 rolls or less parlaying Hardways/Horns; I was the shooter on one of those instances.

From now on, I'm just playing the game. We are in a Casino to gamble...not solve a nuclear energy particle issue.

P.S. The day Florida gets Live Craps tables @ Land Based Casinos (Craps on Boats are a Disaster) will be a tearshedding moment for me. Getting really expensive flying around to play some Craps....and the wife is not happy about it...