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100xOdds
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April 9th, 2012 at 12:56:54 PM permalink
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the electronic dice craps game in the middle of the casino at Resorts World NYC is only 2x odds, and only double pay on Field 12. and the 5% commission on the BUY is taken on the bet, not on the # hitting. Can you say YUCK!!!

on the other hand, the DONT side is 4x/3x/2.4x odds for the 4/10,5/9,6/8.
and the Lay commision is 5% when the # hits.

Is this normal for the DONT side? or is the machine favoring DONT players?
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April 9th, 2012 at 1:27:53 PM permalink
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Is this normal for the DONT side? or is the machine favoring DONT players?



It is favoring the don't players. Some casinos will not make a player pay the juice upfront on a lay 4/10, just like a buy juice is only paid if it is hit, but that is the exception and not the rule nowadays.
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April 9th, 2012 at 1:55:04 PM permalink
Quote: 100xOdds

the electronic dice craps game in the middle of the casino at Resorts World NYC is only 2x odds,
and only double pay on Field 12. and the 5% commission on the BUY is taken on the bet, not on the # hitting. Can you say YUCK!!!

on the other hand, the DONT side is 4x/3x/2.4x odds for the 4/10,5/9,6/8.
and the Lay commision is 5% when the # hits.

Is this normal for the DONT side? or is the machine favoring DONT players?

Yep, looks normal to me.
The vig on a win for all Lays is nice. Many casinos only charge the vig on wins on Lay4 and Lay10.

Taking 2X odds (pass) means the most you can BET. $10 most odds $20
Laying 2X odds (don't) means the most you can WIN. $10 can win $20:
So the 4 and 10 needs $40 to win $20 (4X flat bet is then the MOST Lay odds one can lay.)
So the 5 and 9 needs $30 to win $20 (3X flat bet)
So the 6 and 8 needs $24 to win $20 (2.4X flat bet)

Most Craps tables that have 2X odds allow 2.5X odds for the 6 and 8
pass $10 with $25 odds
don't $10 can WIN $25. So $30 wins $25 or 3X flat bet
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April 16th, 2012 at 7:35:32 AM permalink
Quote: 7craps

Laying 2X odds (don't) means the most you can WIN. $10 can win $20.



I think you meant to say, "$20 can win $10".
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April 16th, 2012 at 9:36:46 AM permalink
Quote: NowTheSerpent

I think you meant to say, "$20 can win $10".

I meant exactly what I wrote.
Maybe I was not perfectly clear.

I will say it a bit differently.

Laying 2X odds (on the don't) means it is the most you can WIN from the lay odds bet.

$10 (flat) don't bets can win $20 max (on the lay odds part) on a 2x odds table. (exceptions can be for the 6&8)
Of course one has to Lay more odds to win the $20 depending on the point number.

Another example:
$10 don't bets can win $100 max (on the lay odds) on a 10x odds table.
4 and 10 lay odds $200 to win $100 (so 20x the flat is the most lay odds on the 4 and 10)
5 and 9 lay odds $150 to win $100 (so 15x the flat is the most lay odds on the 5 and 9)
6 and 8 lay odds $120 to win $100 (so 12x the flat is the most lay odds on the 6 and 8)
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April 17th, 2012 at 3:28:24 AM permalink
I get it. You would be permitted to give or lay $2.4X, $3X, or $4X Odds as appropriate to win $2X beside your flat Don't win of $X. Your description is indeed correct.

The way the statement was embedded made it appear as a lapse, but now I understand how were setting up your explanation.
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