seek
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June 26th, 2011 at 5:32:00 AM permalink
I need betting advice from a craps expert.
I know an amazingly hot beautiful girl that always wins at Yahtzee.
She's the luckiest dice roller i've ever seen and she has never played craps.

VIRGIN PRINCIPLE
According to the craps superstition Virgin Principle, a female first time craps shooter will have good luck and have a good roll.
***I want to invest money in her that the virgin principle will happen with her.

So my question is:
if i'd invest $100/$200/$300 in the superstition happening with her.

* - How would I bet? / What would i bet?
* - How much could we win?
FleaStiff
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June 26th, 2011 at 6:52:22 AM permalink
>I need betting advice from a craps expert.
Own the casino!!

>I know an amazingly hot beautiful girl that always wins at Yahtzee.
Okay. We can meet up in Las Vegas. You can go down to the craps table and get familiar with the game, I'll stay up in the room with the hot beautiful girl and ... .

>According to the craps superstition ...
As you said, superstition. I believe it may hold true for her... or it may not.

> if i'd invest $100/$200/$300 in the superstition happening with her.
Nothing done at a craps table should be considered "an investment". It should be considered "entertainment".
Although the table minimum might be five dollars or ten dollars, I would suggest not buying-in for less than 300.00. However, you might even go to a few places where the table minimum is as low as One Dollar. It is of course your choice, but do not consider it an investment, just fun.

> How would I bet? / What would i bet?
What ever you wanted. It would be a Pass Line bet when the dice came to her and it would be a bet that paid even money. Since her first roll can result in a Win, a Loss or else an entry into the "Bonus Round" because she neither won nor lost but only established a point, there could be a further and optional bet known as an Odds Bet. This would depend upon table limits too and would pay off at better than Even Money if she wins the "Bonus Round" by making her point.

> How much could we win?
If you chose to put 100.00 down on the Pass Line and she immediately rolled a Seven or an Eleven, you would receive an additional 100.00.
If her luck continued, there is theoretically no limit but a realistic figure would be that if you buy in for One Hundred dollars and turn it into 500 dollars you would be having a very fortunate day indeed.
AZDuffman
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June 26th, 2011 at 11:35:08 AM permalink
Quote: seek

I need betting advice from a craps expert.
I know an amazingly hot beautiful girl that always wins at Yahtzee.
She's the luckiest dice roller i've ever seen and she has never played craps.

VIRGIN PRINCIPLE
According to the craps superstition Virgin Principle, a female first time craps shooter will have good luck and have a good roll.
***I want to invest money in her that the virgin principle will happen with her.

So my question is:
if i'd invest $100/$200/$300 in the superstition happening with her.

* - How would I bet? / What would i bet?
* - How much could we win?



If you want to play it safe you can bet pass/don't pass with full odds. This is statistically the best play. It is also the most boring one, so your chances impressing or exciting her are minimal. The average first-time-at-the-table female gets bored with pass/dp only.

You want to impress her and increase your chances with her, play "AZDuffman's Modified Iron Cross." You bet as such:

1. Play one unit on the Pass Line on the comeout roll.
2. If the point is 4-9-10 just play the pass line alone. Tell her, "Hey, honey, for 'my system' to work (it is really *my* system but since you will steal it anyways......... lol) I need you to roll a 5, 6, or 8 when the little puck thing says 'off.'"
3. If a 5-6-8 comes in you are in action! At this time, back your Pass Line bet with at least 1xs odds or whatever you feel you can afford. So you have =>2 units riding on the point. Then place 1 unit on the others of the 5-6-8. This will entail a little over one unit to get a bet in units of 6 for proper payout. After the dealer places your bet, place one unit on the field bet.

Now the fun begins. Every non-7 she rolls the stack in the rail grows. Remember to re-place losign field bets on losses with one iof the 2 units you get from the winning 6-8s. To impress her even more, take the "excess" win on the 6/8 and put one of those units for you and "one for the boys." A good number of women have either been or been friends with waitresses so the tip will make you look good. You still get your base unit back and after she makes 6 non-7s in a row it is all profit.

Just tell her to throw the dice. Make sure your talk to the dealers is polite but in a format a newbie at craps will have a hard time understanding. You know, all the jargon. When she asks brush it off, telling her she is doing good and keep it up. She will see cheques flying to you and you will look smart and richer for the night at least. Remember NOT to place the field if and when she makes a point and has a new comeout roll. When she asks tell her, "Relax, honey, it is part of the system!" A half-backhanded comment such as, "if I explain it you will get nervous and blow it, just keep rolling" could be in order at some point.

If you win, give her a cut or else hope she never saw the first 20 minutes of "Casino" and pulls a Sharon Stone maneuver.

Oh, it is an investment in entertainment and possibility of hooking up with her. You want to make money at craps, learn to deal it or invest in the casino. Negative expectation games cannot be overcome and there is no such thing as "luck" in a casino but merely probability and outcome.
All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others
s2dbaker
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June 26th, 2011 at 6:41:34 PM permalink
Since she is going to be super lucky on the first try, you have to bet all of your money on the 11 on the first roll. You will win 15 to 1. Just remember, it only will happen on the first roll.
Someday, joor goin' to see the name of Googie Gomez in lights and joor goin' to say to joorself, "Was that her?" and then joor goin' to answer to joorself, "That was her!" But you know somethin' mister? I was always her yuss nobody knows it! - Googie Gomez
clarkacal
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June 26th, 2011 at 6:46:00 PM permalink
I used to believe in that. Bet big on the last 3 girls I dated because they had never played. -$1500 No points made.
Ayecarumba
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June 27th, 2011 at 2:16:40 PM permalink
Quote: seek

According to the craps superstition Virgin Principle, a female first time craps shooter will have good luck and have a good roll.
***I want to invest money in her that the virgin principle will happen with her.



Unfortunately, Seek, I believe a corollary to the superstition is that the shooter and her accomplice, don't make a lot of money on her first roll. Being newbies, they don't know to take free odds, press a win, or place a repeating number. Sorry.
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication - Leonardo da Vinci
Clownkeeper
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June 27th, 2011 at 3:19:46 PM permalink
Since you are considering this an investment.....I would buy in at $300.00 bet one unit on pass line and bet one unit come bets to establish three numbers. I would not add any odds on pass line or the come bets. Do this until the dice comes to her that way you have more money for her rolls. When she gets the dice; one unit pass line w 3-4-5x odds. Make inside place bets $25 on 5 & 9 $ 30 on 6 and eight. So you may have 4 or 5 numbers depending what the point is. Then with every 2 wins, double the bet. As you said your looking at this as an investment, if the superstition or luck holds true, you'll make some coin. If not then you lose your $300.00 and go home.
Fortune favors the bold
Clownkeeper
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June 27th, 2011 at 3:31:47 PM permalink
Sorry, I was thinking $200.00. With $300.00 place bet with full odds and then inside place bets $50 on 5 and 9 and $60 on 6 and 8. Everything else the same.
Fortune favors the bold

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