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You got so close on attempt #6 :( I hope you can make 'em all one day

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I saw something wild at the tables the other night that’s worth sharing.

A shooter was going for the Make ’Em All bonus and was down to just one number left — the 12. His dice set was the classic 6-6-5-5 (Hardway set), and you could tell he had a controlled, soft toss. But his shot started drawing attention for all the wrong reasons.

The dice were bouncing too low, almost skimming across the felt, and they kept coming up short of the back wall. It looked more like a slide than a legal toss. On the final throw — the one that could’ve hit his Make ’Em All — the dice barely bounced again. The boxman immediately called “No roll — dice sliding!” and the pit boss stepped in.

Moments later, security escorted the shooter off the table. He was officially banned for sliding, even though he was just one roll away from a massive payout.

Crazy ending — not a seven-out, but a technical foul.

By the way. this casino gets 6-dice-sliders' photos taped on the craps pit's podium.
The BOLO [Be on Look Outfor flyer] says this..."The following people were reported to be part of a sliding team..."

Congratulations, you made 'em all :) Is your goal to be able to consistently make 'em all, to an extent where you beat the house edge?

I feel the need to encourage these posts, because making an excel sheet and graphs like this seems like something I would do if I had slightly different interests within the gambling field.

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Congratulations, you made 'em all :) Is your goal to be able to consistently make 'em all, to an extent where you beat the house edge?

I feel the need to encourage these posts, because making an excel sheet and graphs like this seems like something I would do if I had slightly different interests within the gambling field.
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Thanks! I really appreciate that.


My long-term goal has been to find a legitimate, data-driven way to gain an edge in craps — if such a thing is even possible.


I’ve invested over 1,000 hours between programming my dice software, working on dice mechanics to test different theories, and recording every roll in detail through an “11 hot keys” system I built.


Right now, I’m focused on three main objectives:


1️⃣ Bingo the “Make ’Em All” bonus
Not just hitting it once, but doing it often enough to show a consistent profit.


2️⃣ Reduce my 7-out rate
From the theoretical 16.67% down to around 14%.


3️⃣ Capitalize on number bias (5, 6, 8, and 9)
My current data (as of the 10/23/2025 craps report) shows those numbers make up about 51% of all rolls, and I’m aiming to push that closer to 54%.


It’s been a blend of math, coding, and hands-on shooting practice —

basically an ongoing experiment to see how much control and consistency can actually shift the edge in a real casino environment.


Always testing, tracking, and tweaking

— trying to see how far skill and data can really go against the math.

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Some how
these 4 dice-sets have made "5, 6, 8, & 9" popped up 6 times more frequently than other 234 dice-sets. See screenshot

Go figure!

🎻 The 10,000-Hour Rule — From Violin to Craps 🎲

I just watched this beautiful performance by Miss Lina Yu — YouTube link

https://youtu.be/bVcZmrR6saE?list=RDbVcZmrR6saE

— and was blown away by her mastery of the violin. Every note shows what dedication and practice can achieve.

They say it takes 10,000 hours to master any craft. Miss Yu’s performance is living proof of that rule in action.

Likewise, I’ve set my sights on the dice. With 10,000 hours of focused practice, I’m determined to become a craps master — disciplined, precise, and maybe even a little bit lucky.

🎯 Skill, patience, and persistence — that’s the real jackpot.

"Some how these 4 dice-sets have made "5, 6, 8, & 9" popped up 6 times more frequently than other 234 dice-sets. See screenshot

Go figure!"

Are there really as many dice sets as you claim or one quarter as many? for example rotate 1153 forward and you get 5366, forward again and you get 6624, etc.

It's one thing to expect the dice will tumble and bounce the same way as each other when they hit the table and a separate claim that the two will rotate the same number of times while in the air.

Have you examined the stats to see if there is correlation between each set and its rotated set?

Our member-Cowboy's Question 1:

"Are there really as many dice sets as you claim, or only a quarter as many? For example, if you rotate 1153 forward, you get 5366, forward again and you get 6624, etc."

My Answer:

According to the 2 dice set tables, there are indeed 576 distinct ways to set the dice (I pick and choose 240 dice-sets to practice). Please refer to the screenshot of the dice set table for further clarification.











Our member-Cowboy's Question 2:

"It's one thing to expect the dice will tumble and bounce the same way when they hit the table, and a separate claim that the two will rotate the same number of times while in the air. Have you examined the stats to see if there is a correlation between each set and its rotated set?"

My Answer:

You can refer to the 5689 PopUp Frequency Table to examine the correlation. The data indicates that the dice sets (such as 1153, 3122, 4665, 5133) appeared 6 times more frequently, as shown in the table. This suggests some patterns in the rotation and frequency of these dice sets. Or perhap extra pop-ups are due to luck or randomness of the bones.





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In my 436-roll craps practice, the 4155 dice set had produced point calls of 5, 6, 8, or 9 a total of 7 times.

Look at roll#372 on the screenshot, it produced a 5, for an example.

In my 461-roll craps practice, these dice sets below had produced point calls of 5, 6, 8, or 9, at a total of 6 times each per dice- set