Martingale The DP

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I sometimes go 9+ in a row on the PL, but 6+ in a row on the PL in a session is likely. But if I can get to winning 15 bets and triple my buy-in on the DP, that's a session win for me. Throwing in higher Martingale betting amounts throws my game off though. I might just suffer the loss if I lose 3-5 bets in a row and reset.

Maybe I could try a ladder where I'd add a unit on each loss and subtract a unit on each win. I'd lose 15 units with 5 losses in a row cumulative.

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I tried doing what he is doing on the Wizard's free craps game - linked
I wanted to see if I could double the bank of $10k before losing it all
it was lots of fun
and I did it - counting the way Jimmy counts I won $100 one hundred times in a row
I won so much and so easily it seemed like I had a huge edge
of course I know there is still a HA and it was just variance
the most I ever had to bet was $6,400 after losing 6 times in a row - but the game only lets you bet $5K - - so when it won I just added $1400 to the win
if I had lost the $6,400 bet instead of winning it I wouldn't have had enough $ to bet $12,800 on the next roll
one of the things that made it easier was not looking at and counting the dice after they're rolled - it can get tiring - no need to - the game does it for you

Jimmy says something kinna interesting but misleading - he says - "if the point is 5 to lose 2 5s have to be rolled before one 7"

which is both true and not true - the first 5 is in the past - so the real bet is to get beat just one 5 has to be rolled before one 7

it is tempting to do this in a real casino - even though you give up the HA - but of course the feeling in betting real $ is going to be a lot different than when real $ is not actually bet - don't think I will head to a casino with $10K or $20K to try this -


https://wizardofodds.com/play/craps/v2/

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If you watch the start of the video, he counts a push as a win - I think he forgot that he didn't double his first bet, so he had lost $200 when his $200 bet won, but he still claimed he had won $100 (which, to be fair, he would have, had he stuck to his original betting system).

Note that, if it is limited to 6 losses in a row (because the next bet, $6400, would be more than the remaining bankroll, $3700, and that assumes the table would even accept a bet of more than $5000), I make it out to be about a 71% chance of 20 wins in a row, and slightly more than a 50% chance of 40 in a row. Of course, this is effectively betting $6300 at 1-63 odds, and pretty much 2/3 of the time, you will lose before getting 64 consecutive wins.

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Note that, if it is limited to 6 losses in a row (because the next bet, $6400, would be more than the remaining bankroll, $3700,

yes, but that may not be the case
you may have won $8K before you had to make a $6,400 bet
and I'm pretty sure Jimmy's bankroll is $20k not $10K
anyway - any accurate calculation will surely show that it cannot possibly actually be a winning system -
but it was quite entertaining - to me anyway

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the world *IS* shocked! How can this schmuck with his sucker bet strategy afford that babe for a model?

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the world *IS* shocked! How can this schmuck with his sucker bet strategy afford that babe for a model?
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I have a method for doing this with an advantage.

You have to practice separating the two dice by time coming out of your hand, so one is likely to resolve before the other.

Now you bet $100K on Pass, and throw the dice that way. I'm at the other end of the table. As soon as I see the first die resolve to a 1, or maybe a 6 too, I grab the other one and with a gleeful screech, throw it back to you.

"No roll! Get that monkey out of here!"

So I get escorted out of yet another casino. But you missed crap or a hard point. That's got to make the game +EV. I'd have to do some calcs to determine by how much and what the ideal roll-ruining strategy would be, but it's probably enough where you can have the girl and I get bananas and coconuts.

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She’s got a purdy mouf…!

With a $10K start I lost my 5-step ladder 3 times in very quick order.
I lost $250, $500, $750, $1K, $1250 or 15X $250 for -$3,750
I lost $180, $360, $540, $720, $900 or 15X $180 for -$2.7K.
I lost $120, $240, $360, $480, $600 or 15X $120 for -$1.8K; for a total loss of -$8,250 not counting any wins, and there was hardly any to count, the shooter was on a heater. Making me lose 15 PL bets in a row basically. It will take over 35 wins in a row just to get back to $10K. I must have won $1,600 in there because my low balance was $3.3K, but it might have been on my first few bets.

Waylon has a TV screen this time with a bubble craps machine inside. He's betting $1 on Lay the 4 for the come-out rolls. He's betting $5 on each number for one hit after the point gets established (be sure to buy the 4, 5, 9, 10, and maybe add an extra $1 for the 6 & 8). Then he bets $5 lay bet on the point number. If there's a 7-out winner, he maintains his bet level. If the point is hit, he'll use a 5-step ladder of $5, $10, $15, $20, & $25 on successive losses for the one hit rolls and the lay bets. If there's a winner while he's on the ladder, he'll repeat at the same level until he wins twice in a row then step downward.
I'm halfway through this video and after 85 rolls or so he's up over $100, mostly from the $5 bet wins. If he steps it up to the $25 level, he would need $150 across ($180 at a table) for those one hit rolls. So 15X $36 is $540 for the across bets on a table plus 15X $6 is $90 on the point losing plus $25 for the $1 lay bets is the $655 bankroll. He had $800 in his bankroll. Point 7-outs when he has his one hit bets out wreck him. He's trying to win more than $5 first so the lay the point bet is paid for. I've been on a table with over a dozen point 7-outs in a row, so, the dice can be cursed. I would skip the one hit part and focus on the lay the point part ladder. The Lay the 4 for $1 seems to be a way to make the dice roll. He rolled 4 come-out 7's in a row, so betting DP on a ladder is a bad idea when betting against the point is harder to lose at. Betting in multiples of $6 would pay even dollar amounts instead of pennies, but then there's the vig, so what do I know.

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