cowboy
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March 18th, 2023 at 10:47:20 AM permalink
Just curious: do most dark side players pass or shoot the dice when they come to them and are there any conditions where you would do the opposite?
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March 18th, 2023 at 12:22:03 PM permalink
In my own experience, which is of course too small a sample size to generalize, most Don't players do not also serve as shooters. On several occasions, I have observed an entire table unite to play the Dark Side with great hilarity, but only briefly. For those brief periods, someone must shoot.
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March 18th, 2023 at 12:50:45 PM permalink
Dice always do the opposite of what you want them to. But sure, bet the PL and load up a couple of DC bets.
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March 18th, 2023 at 2:34:49 PM permalink
I roll as a don’t bettor.

Players are usually baffled that someone could “bet against himself”, whatever that means
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March 18th, 2023 at 5:08:55 PM permalink
A lot of players will sit out a Don't shooter.

I bet the Don'ts, but when I get the dice, I shoot from the pass line.

It's one thing to bet against the shooter. Much worse to be shooting from the Don't's against a table full of pass line bettors.
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March 18th, 2023 at 8:30:14 PM permalink
I always pass the dice when playing the don't, and usually do when playing the "do" side. I figure the next player would probably enjoy shooing more than myself (or is it "me").
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March 18th, 2023 at 10:31:46 PM permalink
It is my understanding that a casino will not allow a shooter to roll dem bones without having a PL bet.

Of course and avid DP player could make a small PL bet and a large DP bet.
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March 19th, 2023 at 3:03:47 AM permalink
Sounds like some weird casino rule. You need a line bet to throw the dice, either PL or DP. My observation is the DP bettors who add 6X odds pass the dice and let the other shooters fail. But some players are barred from throwing the dice for some reason or another and they just bet DP anyway. The suits can be extra finicky.
I would have no problem rolling craps on the come-out and a 7-out once the point gets established, but then my turn is truncated and very short. I'd rather roll 7-11's on the come-out, then have a betting chance at a 20+ roll. I usually have to make-up for what the rest of the table lost me, so that means a long roll. I'll bet DC on a 5-count when it isn't my turn.
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March 19th, 2023 at 4:14:01 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I always pass the dice when playing the don't, and usually do when playing the "do" side. I figure the next player would probably enjoy shooing more than myself (or is it "me").

use "me-myself" !!
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I have the conflicting wish of wanting the table to be empty when shooting from the Don't, at least I'm just as happy with that; but I also don't like the dice to come right back to me if I roll the point number, which it does if the table is empty. Lately, I've been shooting the dice since I have some new dice sets I like to use from the Don't . No, I don't think I can really influence the dice results, but it adds fun.
The Dice, the cards, they not only have no sense of justice but are seemingly endowed with a sense of cruel irony. This devolves from the 'nature of random'. Ironically, don't you see. 
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March 19th, 2023 at 11:02:18 AM permalink
To me, shooting the dice is one of the best parts of the game. I’d never pass the dice

On a side note, I’ll often play the don’t for the first point resolution of every shooter, then switch to passline for subsequent points. Though I realize it makes no difference in the long run, I feel like I win on an ice-cold table (shooters not making any points) yet I’ll still partake in the winnings when someone has a monster roll
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