Video of Bubble Craps
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYRogcpEwCw
Table limits are $1-$1,000
Odds are 0X, 1X, 2X on PL; 0x, 1X, 2X, 3X on DP.
You can buy the 5 or 9 and get paid $7.25 on a $5 bet instead of $7.
You don't have to bet in $5 or $6 increments on the points because it will pay you to the nearest cent.
There's no video of the dice bouncing around so I can't tell if these are real rolls or no rolls that count as real rolls. I'm sure the dice never hit the back wall, or even make it half way down the table.
With COVID-19 expected to continue, this might be a good game to put into casinos that refuse to open their craps tables.
I'm gonna have to caution myself not to have a bet and payout of more than $1199 on any single roll of the dice or the taxman will make an entrance.
For a $30 buy-in, I can bet $3 on the 6 or 8 and win $6.50 with my bet back.
The PL or DP always needs to be played on this game, $1 minimum. Late in the video (which I'm still watching from last night) the shooter pressed a button for all place bets to be ON during the come-out roll and he wasn't required to make a line bet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MmrIGRl1jU
The hop bets have been disabled, maximum bet of $0.
There may have been a maximum bet of $100 per bet, and a maximum bet total of all bets of $1,000.
You can't place bet on the point. So if the new point lands on your place bet, it will ask you to move the chips to a new number (or take your place bet on the point down). Later, the point was 5 and he could Buy the 5. Even later, the point became his place bet and he didn't move it, so it stayed up.
Casinos can change the table minimum. It could be 50 cents, or $5 at the bigger casinos.
Doey-Don't line bets not allowed. Pick one.
Quote: ChumpChangeLive Casino Bubble Craps - Having some fun at Century Casino! - YouTube
Not as entertaining as a table game. No cheers for the shooter. No high fives and fist bumps.
This player has dozens of Interblock bubble craps videos where he uses his free bubble craps tracker to decide how to bet.
If more casinos (particularly smallish ones) start to get these in, then I would expect mistakes of this nature to be made here and there.
https://www.bestuscasinos.org/blog/why-las-vegas-rookies-should-try-shoot-to-win-bubble-craps-machine/
Quote: ChumpChangeMy local casino got Shoot To Win bubble craps a couple weeks after the previous post. They also have electronic roulette. Craps tables are still closed, roulette table may be open. Still waiting on the vaccinations.
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CC: Do YOU believe Bubble Craps machines are "rigged" or do you believe they are "set-up" on some kind of RNG? I played one at a Harrah's facility and won $400 using my non-establishment play.
Example: All CO's $5 Don't Pass + $4 C&E + $3 Hop 7 = wins a little more than third of the time with a minimum loss of $7 with a point establishment but easily made-up during play.
tuttigym
I can't speak for the individual bubble craps machines except that I don't prefer them. I feel I have better dice influencing control on the community machine, but it's still really random.
At actual tables I find myself winning when I shoot and losing when others shoot, but some days the dice are playing opposite day on me and there's nothing I can do. My biggest wins at a table have been playing the DC on a 5 count or playing a progression on the PB 6 or 8, or a progression on the PL. My biggest wins on the bubble craps have been with multiples of $3 PL/Come with $3, $4, $5 odds (there's a 2X odds limit), and progressions on the PB 6, 8. I'm usually playing with absolutely frightened money as opposed to scared money, so I don't spread out my bets much or often. I try a new thing almost every trip and it fails then spend a week or two writing up a new strategy.
When the craps tables opened up after vaccines were available and people were checked at the door for their vaccination & fever status, the table limits on everything went way up. The $5 BJ table went to $25, and the $5 & $10 craps tables went to $15 & $25. It's been a few years since and there's one or two $15 BJ tables but they are usually packed or so cold nobody wants to sit there. The craps tables are $10-$1K on Monday-Thursday and $15-$2K on Friday-Sunday. I'd have to drive an hour away to find a $5 half-table before 5 pm.
What I look for is like at 28:24 into the video, the dice are showing a 7 up top and he presses the button and a 7 results. That's the number one rule I follow on this machine. In this case it was a simple 6-1.
I usually wind up waiting until the last second to punch the button and throwing a horn number to avoid a 7 if I don't punch it earlier to try to get a desired number other than the 7. Sometimes I don't punch the button at all and it auto-punches the button because time ran out. You get 20 seconds to roll the dice and there's audible prompts to press the button! Come-out rolls are usually easier to follow up with a 7 on because the dice start out with a 7.
At 38:20 for a couple minutes he rolls 4 horn numbers in a row, but he wasn't betting those numbers for obvious reasons.
My local machine allows Don't Pass bets and I'm shocked it wasn't allowed on this machine in the video. At the beginning of the video the Don't Pass is lit so he could bet it. It's just that later in the video he had his finger on the chip and it wouldn't let him slide it from the PL to the DP. He also said he couldn't get points on his card for playing this machine. My casino just had a card revamp and I'm now getting $5 per point and even odds bets count. So bet $5,000 and get a $10 credit towards a burger. Most days are just $1-$2 credits towards that burger for me despite spending 2-3 hours on the machine. If I bet 10X what I do, then I could be getting a free burger per trip. Ramping up my progression bets tends to bring in more points.
The limits on this bubble craps machine are $400 on the Place Bets and $195 on the Pass Line with $390 on the odds. I think hard ways are limited to $115 because a 10 for one payout would be $1,150. They try to discourage or limit hand pays on this machine with bet limits. A 16 for 1 payout would have a bet limit of $70 and a 31 for 1 payout would have a bet limit of $35.
Comment Question: Why did a $3 buy on 10 pay $5.70? Shouldn’t it pay $5.85 because 5% vig on $3 is $0.15? That’s what it pays on my local bubble machines (the individual cylinder ones). It seems like all the buys here are taking more than a 5% vig?
Answer: The machine takes 5% vig on the win, so 5% on a $6 win is 30 cents; it doesn't take 5% on the $3 bet like you would expect.
Quote: ChumpChangeI play the community type machine and the agitator in the center that bounces the dice around gets more aggressive the longer people are playing. So if the machine is doing slower shaking when walking up to the machine alone, after an hour, the machine will be getting towards peak shaking of the dice and more 7-outs will occur. It's getting so I would switch from PL to DP at the 45 minute mark. I still could run into a streak of 20 rolls without hitting the line point at either setting, or hitting 3 points at either setting, but I lose control of the dice when the dice are shaken that aggressively. I've had too many losing sessions in a row and I'm taking a break and looking for a real $5 table for my $150 buy-in.
I can't speak for the individual bubble craps machines except that I don't prefer them. I feel I have better dice influencing control on the community machine, but it's still really random.
At actual tables I find myself winning when I shoot and losing when others shoot, but some days the dice are playing opposite day on me and there's nothing I can do. My biggest wins at a table have been playing the DC on a 5 count or playing a progression on the PB 6 or 8, or a progression on the PL. My biggest wins on the bubble craps have been with multiples of $3 PL/Come with $3, $4, $5 odds (there's a 2X odds limit), and progressions on the PB 6, 8. I'm usually playing with absolutely frightened money as opposed to scared money, so I don't spread out my bets much or often. I try a new thing almost every trip and it fails then spend a week or two writing up a new strategy.
When the craps tables opened up after vaccines were available and people were checked at the door for their vaccination & fever status, the table limits on everything went way up. The $5 BJ table went to $25, and the $5 & $10 craps tables went to $15 & $25. It's been a few years since and there's one or two $15 BJ tables but they are usually packed or so cold nobody wants to sit there. The craps tables are $10-$1K on Monday-Thursday and $15-$2K on Friday-Sunday. I'd have to drive an hour away to find a $5 half-table before 5 pm.
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Thanks for the comprehensive response. The machine I played at had individual stations with its own dice and bubble. At my age, sitting down and taking my time to produce betting patterns is really attractive. I can play for 2 hours and not get bored or tired as I would at a live table. So, can I reinforce your post with a summary?
1. You believe that the machines ARE random and not pre-programed with an RNG.
2. You also seem to believe that that slower "shaking" of the dice may result in more points converted, less 7 outs, and more non-7 numbers produced per hand.
3. You also seem to believe that when the machine produces higher level of "shaking" there are more frequent 7 outs.
I am not doubting you, but with your extensive experience, can you really "rely" to any certainty on these conclusions?
tuttigym
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They were getting vouchers in some way I don't know how, it wasn't quite visible what they were doing.
I used to play a crapless craps machine, it wasn't a bubble dice machine, about 30 years ago. It was a 25 cent machine but there was a dollar machine available if I wanted a higher denomination. I usually just bet 1 unit on the PL, because the HA was so awful on the PL to help match the state slots RTP of 95% max; and I would bet 6 units on the PB 6 or/and 8 and press a unit on a win and decrease a unit on a loss. I'd start with 132 units for the PB 6 or 8 and try to triple it up with 7 wins ahead, but I was never successful. Not saying it can't work. I could try it on a dollar machine now. It's just I'm more likely to lose my 11 bet buy-in before I get to 7 bets ahead.
One time I was playing 30 years ago and another guy was at the e-craps table with me and he won like $400 then a couple suits came up and told me to leave the table so they could talk to him. They spent like 15 minutes talking to him like they were going to ban him from the casino for winning too much. Such a sweaty place.
Quote: tuttigymQuote: ChumpChangeI play the community type machine and the agitator in the center that bounces the dice around gets more aggressive the longer people are playing. So if the machine is doing slower shaking when walking up to the machine alone, after an hour, the machine will be getting towards peak shaking of the dice and more 7-outs will occur. It's getting so I would switch from PL to DP at the 45 minute mark. I still could run into a streak of 20 rolls without hitting the line point at either setting, or hitting 3 points at either setting, but I lose control of the dice when the dice are shaken that aggressively. I've had too many losing sessions in a row and I'm taking a break and looking for a real $5 table for my $150 buy-in.
I can't speak for the individual bubble craps machines except that I don't prefer them. I feel I have better dice influencing control on the community machine, but it's still really random.
At actual tables I find myself winning when I shoot and losing when others shoot, but some days the dice are playing opposite day on me and there's nothing I can do. My biggest wins at a table have been playing the DC on a 5 count or playing a progression on the PB 6 or 8, or a progression on the PL. My biggest wins on the bubble craps have been with multiples of $3 PL/Come with $3, $4, $5 odds (there's a 2X odds limit), and progressions on the PB 6, 8. I'm usually playing with absolutely frightened money as opposed to scared money, so I don't spread out my bets much or often. I try a new thing almost every trip and it fails then spend a week or two writing up a new strategy.
When the craps tables opened up after vaccines were available and people were checked at the door for their vaccination & fever status, the table limits on everything went way up. The $5 BJ table went to $25, and the $5 & $10 craps tables went to $15 & $25. It's been a few years since and there's one or two $15 BJ tables but they are usually packed or so cold nobody wants to sit there. The craps tables are $10-$1K on Monday-Thursday and $15-$2K on Friday-Sunday. I'd have to drive an hour away to find a $5 half-table before 5 pm.
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Thanks for the comprehensive response. The machine I played at had individual stations with its own dice and bubble. At my age, sitting down and taking my time to produce betting patterns is really attractive. I can play for 2 hours and not get bored or tired as I would at a live table. So, can I reinforce your post with a summary?
1. You believe that the machines ARE random and not pre-programed with an RNG.
2. You also seem to believe that that slower "shaking" of the dice may result in more points converted, less 7 outs, and more non-7 numbers produced per hand.
3. You also seem to believe that when the machine produces higher level of "shaking" there are more frequent 7 outs.
I am not doubting you, but with your extensive experience, can you really "rely" to any certainty on these conclusions?
tuttigym
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Can you confirm or deny the above?
tuttigym
Quote: ChumpChangeWith slower shaking I can press the button more deliberately when I want to to try to influence a result. With faster shaking, the dice are moving too fast to pick a split second to press the button to influence a number outcome. Other shooters may not even look at the dice when they press the button so their results will not likely be like mine. Some have blind luck and make quite a run at it, but when the dice get too aggressive they'll likely leave if they get hit with 2-3 point 7-outs in quick succession. They bet all the box numbers so it's a big loss if they don't get those longer rolls. When I play the DP, I usually wipe them out quick. That IS a problem with community craps is some players are playing the Don'ts and shooting and wrecking everybody else's bets. I try to tell others I'm betting DP when I shoot, but sometimes it just doesn't matter because I can go 15+ rolls without hitting the point or a 7-out.
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Are you posting that on an individual bubble craps STATION manned by one player that the player can stop the shaking by pressing the "roll" button like a slot machine STOP roll in mid spin?
tuttigym
Somebody mentioned that a RNG is controlling the vibrating platform and the force that you push the button down affects how high the dice pop up. The dice can sometimes hit the top of the enclosure and make a banging noise. The dice can hit each other mid-air. The dice can land not flat and then the machine will either reroll the dice automatically or the machine will error out and will need an attendant to turn a key to skip that roll.
I've only played the solo bubble craps game a couple times and it was drawing too many point 7-outs so I switched to the DP and went on a winning streak for a little bit but then the dice started hitting points and brought me back down. I don't have a good memory of playing that game and the button.
If I'm trying to avoid other players, the solo game is the way to go. But I usually come in and play the community game when there is nobody playing but then some group of people wanders by and wants to play. This kind of discourages DP play because I'd be losing my turn to shoot to other players for a quick win. I try to play DP when nobody else is around.
