MattUK
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July 24th, 2020 at 10:13:18 AM permalink
I would keep the outcome description the same for both decisions. Also, the word "stand" where applicable (5 times). I think it's also important that there are 6^15 combinations and to understand why.
MattUK
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July 24th, 2020 at 1:48:09 PM permalink
I am delighted to inform you that the house edge is 3883/839,808 or 1 loss every 216.28 rounds. :) That's just in the middle of a very narrow strip between Pass Line (212.14) and Don't Pass Line (220) in Playtech Craps.
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Mewtwo
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July 25th, 2020 at 5:13:23 PM permalink
When I first saw the max pay on this was a 9:1 for a natural yahtzee that happens so rarely, I said to myself "Wow, this is a cheap ass game, there's no way that should be that low."

Then I see the math showing it's a 0.46% house edge game that's competitive to blackjack. Wow. In this day and age of crappy odds on so many games that's refreshing to see.
Wizard
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July 25th, 2020 at 5:22:36 PM permalink
Quote: Mewtwo

When I first saw the max pay on this was a 9:1 for a natural yahtzee that happens so rarely, I said to myself "Wow, this is a cheap ass game, there's no way that should be that low."



It's a terrible pay table. If they made a four of a kind pay even money they could significantly bump up the five a kind (on first roll and any) and straight significantly.
It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet.
MattUK
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July 26th, 2020 at 7:43:19 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

It's a terrible pay table. If they made a four of a kind pay even money they could significantly bump up the five a kind (on first roll and any) and straight significantly.


It's good enough for internet casinos. Just maybe they started from simulating blackjack and wanted the Five of a kind to pay above 3:2. However, for land casinos natural pays would surely work. I kind of regret that the Nice Dice doesn't' pay 10:1 for 1/1296 extra RTP to beat 3x Odds Craps (and almost pair with Pass Line with 3-4-5x rule, short of 0.01%). It's also more fair and clear to visualize because 10:1 win 10 times higher chip(s) while 9:1 only replace a low value chip with the high value which looks more like magic than win. Note that they don't have any animation of chips being paid, which is a minus.
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