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February 16th, 2020 at 7:47:06 AM permalink
I heard through the grapevine that there was a four hour roll this weekend at Harrah’s in PA. Anyone there that can confirm?
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February 16th, 2020 at 8:30:58 AM permalink
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I heard through the grapevine that there was a four hour roll this weekend at Harrah’s in PA. Anyone there that can confirm?


Yes. 122 Rolls.

It’s on their twitter feed.

Pat DeMauro....154
The “Captain”....147 (if you believe Scoblete)
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February 16th, 2020 at 9:46:04 AM permalink
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February 16th, 2020 at 11:40:36 AM permalink
Quote: TDVegas

Pat DeMauro....154

#1 Pat DeMauro....154 rolls
May 2009
Many can find those that were there and witnessed this. Suits, dealers and other players.

#2 Stanley Fujitake....118 rolls
May 1989
Many can find many that were there and witnessed this. Suits, dealers and other players.

any other number of rolls claimed has NEVER been supported by any credible witnesses, not more than one without having an ulterior motive (like story telling - those bad fiction writers)

Harrahs needs to interview witnesses and get the true stories.
of course, they will not do that
just another 'spring'break' story to get more to visit THEM instead of ...

because someone said something happened on the internet
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February 16th, 2020 at 11:48:35 AM permalink
Quote: 7craps

#1 Pat DeMauro....154 rolls
May 2009
Many can find those that were there and witnessed this. Suits, dealers and other players.

#2 Stanley Fujitake....118 rolls
May 1989
Many can find many that were there and witnessed this. Suits, dealers and other players.

any other number of rolls claimed has NEVER been supported by any credible witnesses, not more than one without having an ulterior motive (like story telling - those bad fiction writers)

Harrahs needs to interview witnesses and get the true stories.
of course, they will not do that
just another 'spring'break' story to get more to visit THEM instead of ...

because someone said something happened on the internet
Poker and Craps players tell the truth and nothing but the truth -1.34% of the time
this has been documented by famous mathematicians from Nigeria



It’s a little soon to be calling BS on Harrah’s. LOL. Who I heard it from did not get it from the Twitter feed. Let’s see what gets corroborated over time.
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February 16th, 2020 at 1:28:09 PM permalink
I never count rolls. Who does? I'm guessing surveillance.
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February 16th, 2020 at 1:54:37 PM permalink
Quote: TDVegas

Yes. 122 Rolls.

It’s on their twitter feed.(snip)


Anything is "possible".

If the player rolled a 4 or 10 on the "first roll", then it had 1/1,747,937,364,991,438 chance (75% chance of the roll not being resolved on each "throw").

If it means the player keeps the dice untill he/she rolls a "7", then it had about a 1/4,572,061,018 chance (5/6 chance of the roll not being resolved on each "throw")

Note: I don't know enough about craps to know if one of the above scenarios is possibly correct.


In contrast 18 "Yos" in a row *** has about a 1/39,346,408,075,296,537,575,424 chance

***: I only brought this up, because I vaguely remember that someone "said this happened", on the forum (?)
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February 16th, 2020 at 4:20:23 PM permalink
It means they never “sevened out.” Sevens on come out rolls may have happened, but there were 122 rolls without a seven happening with a point established.
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February 16th, 2020 at 4:59:50 PM permalink
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I never count rolls. Who does? I'm guessing surveillance.


There must be a trigger point where they decide to start counting and then back check the length thru video.

I wouldn’t doubt the 122. Certainly possible. 100 plus rolls happen every blue moon. The casino confirming is credible, imo.
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February 16th, 2020 at 5:10:31 PM permalink
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I wouldn’t doubt the 122. Certainly possible. 100 plus rolls happen every blue moon. The casino confirming is credible, imo.

The casino goes out of its way to publicize good news for the gambler. So be it the Admiral’s roll or 18 Yo’s in a row, crickets. Claims made by two.......writers of fiction.
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February 16th, 2020 at 10:33:52 PM permalink
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The casino goes out of its way to publicize good news for the gambler. So be it the Admiral’s roll or 18 Yo’s in a row, crickets. Claims made by two.......writers of fiction.


I don't put much faith in Frank's story about the 147 roll. 18 - 11's in a row? Someone seriously claimed that??

If the casino is backing up a story...I'll believe. I consider that independent confirmation. The casino has more to lose by lying. I'd cross the place off my list if I thought they were concocting a story for good press. That kind of dishonesty could bleed into other types of gaming dishonesty.
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February 17th, 2020 at 8:42:48 AM permalink
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If the casino is backing up a story...I'll believe.

the majority consensus.
still have yet to see any video proof of any so called 'craps roll record' by any casino.

Most craps players (and I tested this over the years many many times all across the US)
THINK the shooter has made, say, 10 rolls when it has been only 5.
Because so many other things are going on.
This is to be expected.

The record (not craps roll record) I found was many CLAIMED standing right at the table the shooter (a DI - dice setter with all the gyrations, excuses and time wasting movements) was over 20 rolls and was only on his 9th. PATHETIC
(that roll was a 7 out and I was blamed for it. Total group (in Las Vegas) of superstitious IDIOTZ, imho)


and over 4 hours for 122 rolls.
2 minutes per roll (120 seconds)
what an extremely slow (ugly, imo) game

average person WANTS to believe
they are followers...
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February 17th, 2020 at 9:18:15 AM permalink
Quote: 7craps

the majority consensus.
still have yet to see any video proof of any so called 'craps roll record' by any casino.

Most craps players (and I tested this over the years many many times all across the US)
THINK the shooter has made, say, 10 rolls when it has been only 5.
Because so many other things are going on.
This is to be expected.

The record (not craps roll record) I found was many CLAIMED standing right at the table the shooter (a DI - dice setter with all the gyrations, excuses and time wasting movements) was over 20 rolls and was only on his 9th. PATHETIC
(that roll was a 7 out and I was blamed for it. Total group (in Las Vegas) of superstitious IDIOTZ, imho)


and over 4 hours for 122 rolls.
2 minutes per roll (120 seconds)
what an extremely slow (ugly, imo) game

average person WANTS to believe
they are followers...
Be a leader


Exaggeration and gambling go together like rum and coke.
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February 17th, 2020 at 10:45:39 AM permalink
Prop bets and pressed bets really slow the game down, not to mention dice off the table. I don't know how players take bathroom breaks or meal breaks in a 4 hour roll. Maybe they just have to wait around and collect their fire bet payout. I assume somebody missed the damn bus home and they'll have to rent a room for a week until the next one comes.
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February 17th, 2020 at 11:11:29 AM permalink
Quote: 7craps

and over 4 hours for 122 rolls.
2 minutes per roll (120 seconds)
what an extremely slow (ugly, imo) game

average person WANTS to believe
they are followers...
Be a leader


Speaking personally (and I find it hard to believe anyone would disagree).....I would not give one rats ass how slow or ugly a craps game was IF someone was shooting 122 times before a 7 out.

Don't care if it's a setter with a 3 minute gyration, don't care if it's a splasher, don't care if it's a grandma with a walker. Don't care if I have to wait out a fire bet payout. Don't care if they interrupted the game because the roller had intestinal distress and had to leave for 10 minutes.

Cash is never ugly in my book. I'll be patient....once he passed a certain roll mark, he can do whatever he wants.
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February 17th, 2020 at 2:57:16 PM permalink
TDVegas has hit the mark. Remain with that rare and precious hot streak and milk it until it finally fizzles. Most of your net winnings will be derived from those very occasional hot shooters.

In the poker world, the same idea is expressed as Playing the Rush.
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February 17th, 2020 at 8:35:25 PM permalink
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In contrast 18 "Yos" in a row *** has about a 1/39,346,408,075,296,537,575,424 chance

Looks like the chance is exactly that, not “about” that. Either way, it’s never going to happen
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February 17th, 2020 at 8:59:51 PM permalink
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Looks like the chance is exactly that, not “about” that. Either way, it’s never going to happen


With comments like this, we will never see Alan back here again!
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February 18th, 2020 at 3:49:23 PM permalink
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Anything is "possible".

If the player rolled a 4 or 10 on the "first roll", then it had 1/1,747,937,364,991,438 chance (75% chance of the roll not being resolved on each "throw").

If it means the player keeps the dice untill he/she rolls a "7", then it had about a 1/4,572,061,018 chance (5/6 chance of the roll not being resolved on each "throw")

Note: I don't know enough about craps to know if one of the above scenarios is possibly correct.


In contrast 18 "Yos" in a row *** has about a 1/39,346,408,075,296,537,575,424 chance

***: I only brought this up, because I vaguely remember that someone "said this happened", on the forum (?)



18 Yos? You've got to be kidding me.....were they from planet Pluto? I highly doubt that.
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February 18th, 2020 at 11:44:18 PM permalink
The chances are around 1 in 39 sextillion.....as in billion, trillion, quadrillion, quintillion, then sextillion.

Yeah...um...to put it mildly, I'm leaning that it didn't happen. I would also believe that if it did happen, they would reconfirm with the eye in the sky and plaster this 1 in 39 sextillion all over social media. In what year did this supposedly happen?

Is it possible it was 3 yo's and the guy was wearing 5x magnifiers?.....;-)
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February 19th, 2020 at 1:47:07 AM permalink
So what progression are you gonna use if you feel lucky about throwin' yo's?
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February 28th, 2020 at 9:14:16 PM permalink
Quote: TDVegas

The chances are around 1 in 39 sextillion.....as in billion, trillion, quadrillion, quintillion, then sextillion.

Yeah...um...to put it mildly, I'm leaning that it didn't happen. I would also believe that if it did happen, they would reconfirm with the eye in the sky and plaster this 1 in 39 sextillion all over social media. In what year did this supposedly happen?

Is it possible it was 3 yo's and the guy was wearing 5x magnifiers?.....;-)



I was here for that! Not the 18 yos, I mean the post about it. But it is theoretically possible providing we live in an infinite universe. AAMOF if so, it has happened an infinite number of times.

I find this kind of thought experiment is useful for grogging the concept of inifinity.
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February 28th, 2020 at 9:20:19 PM permalink
Well we don’t and it didn’t happen. Something that astronomical would be urban legend and in gambling media and probably LVRJ.
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February 28th, 2020 at 9:34:01 PM permalink
Well we might; and it just hasn't happened anywhere nearby. Or it really did and no one (including me) believes the report.
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February 29th, 2020 at 9:24:39 AM permalink
In the next 8 weeks there will be 16 powerball drawings.

Buying one ticket for each of the 16 drawings, the probability of winning 3 (or more) jackpots is about the same as the probability of hitting 18 consecutive yo’s.

Also about the same chance that your house gets stuck by lightning and hit by an asteroid in the next 30 seconds
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March 12th, 2020 at 10:33:52 PM permalink
3... 2... 1...

whew! made it!
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