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Doc
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July 25th, 2019 at 7:34:04 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

No, no. Mon Dieu!! Its 'three-way hop', but you do not utter the word "seven" or encourage anyone else to do so.

I agree on not using the forbidden word. Even if you are not superstitious yourself, there is no reason to agitate others at the table. I think I have heard the wager expressed as, "Hop the reds" or perhaps "... the big reds", and I think that works for everyone.
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July 25th, 2019 at 8:25:26 AM permalink
Quote: Doc

I agree on not using the forbidden word. Even if you are not superstitious yourself, there is no reason to agitate others at the table. I think I have heard the wager expressed as, "Hop the reds" or perhaps "... the big reds", and I think that works for everyone.



Buddy of mine likes to order a seven and seven at the table. Might be my fault he does that.
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July 26th, 2019 at 4:32:10 AM permalink
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Buddy of mine likes to order a seven and seven at the table. Might be my fault he does that.

LOL.
I would align myself with Doc's crowd: No need to agitate ... . It is not as if I believed even one of the dice has ears. Its more about inviting trouble from obnoxious drunks or creating time-wasting diversions. No need to actually believe in nonsense.
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July 26th, 2019 at 5:18:31 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

LOL.
I would align myself with Doc's crowd: No need to agitate ... . It is not as if I believed even one of the dice has ears. Its more about inviting trouble from obnoxious drunks or creating time-wasting diversions. No need to actually believe in nonsense.



I told my craps instructor about it, he was one of those guys had every job in the casino by his mid-30s and thus had a life sentence in the gaming industry. I tell him, he stone-faces for a second or two, then says he would throw the guy out on his head.

Guy still does it, still my fault.
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July 26th, 2019 at 7:42:49 PM permalink
two stories. I had thrown all the numbers but 10 and 11 with 5/10/5 on the small/all/tall bets when a new dealer shows up and announces the world series game score. 7 to 7 of course. This is at Caesars of all places. Despite that, I threw the 11, and then after laying the 10, threw a hard 10. Second story, I was in the early (~12 rolls or so) of a good roll. Two beginners at the table started talking and said "We should pull our bets down, as there are 6 ways to throw a 7 and less for anything else". I gave him a dirty look. Got the dice, tried to shake the bad vibes away. Threw a 7. Gave the guy another dirty look, then thanked the guy for reminding me.
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July 27th, 2019 at 8:23:02 AM permalink
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To start off, why would a player want to place the 9 for $36?

I say they do not have to play with many $1 cheques.
very common bet actually. Just my small time playing and dealing dice, I have seen that many many times.
$36 pays $50 and is left up to win again.

$35 pays $49 is also a common event (place 5 and place 9) as the player will get ready to drop $1 to the table for $50 payout. I even had players drop $5 and ask for change right there to keep their supply of $1s greater than 0.

imo, many players that bet red and green do not have that many $1s, do not like to make change just for that, and like to use those for hardways and cocktail waitress tips.
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July 27th, 2019 at 6:41:28 PM permalink
7craps provides the answer. It makes perfect sense and fits the situations that I observed.
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July 27th, 2019 at 7:13:48 PM permalink
Sorry the real answer is uninformed or stupid, your choice. Double down on the fact you should be paid $53.
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July 28th, 2019 at 3:16:17 PM permalink
DeMango is of course correct; the $36 wagered on Box 9 should have been a Buy bet rather than a Place bet. The fact that the player pressed from $20 to $36 and kept it a Place bet, even after the dealer's query, is what made his choice so puzzling. The player could have pressed to $40 and converted to Buy, making everything very clear.

Perhaps the player merely continued another bad habit which he had learned from his Uncle Billy. Casinos loved old Billy.

I loved the story about the old woman who stayed with Big Red all that time. I wonder who originally gave her that idea.
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April 21st, 2021 at 4:38:10 PM permalink
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Breakage bets placed on boxes 6 and 8 are very common player errors. For example, $10 placed on 8 will win $11, and $25 placed on 8 will win $29. Experienced dealers handle such breakage bets without trouble.

Letís say someone places the 9 for $23. Would the dealer payout winnings of $20 * 7/5 + $3 = $31 or would he calculate $23 * 7/5 = $32.30, rounded down is $32? Or maybe a stingy place would just payout $20 * 7/5 = $28?
Last edited by: Ace2 on Apr 21, 2021
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