SiegfriedRoy
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April 29th, 2019 at 3:23:47 PM permalink
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZNkjWfgby4

I'm on the fence. I know people love/hate bubble craps for many different reasons. My SO seems to like bubble craps because she's a introvert and the social aspect of a live craps game intimates her. I like bubble craps for the reason of automation and that the machines cannot make payout mistakes and don't sour up for not giving a tip. However, I prefer a classic craps table due to the social aspect and the feeling of by allowing you to throw the dice.

Is this new hybrid electronic craps a compromise of both? Is this the future of craps, or will old school craps player resist it? If it ever comes to the casino floor, I'd be one of the first to make a trip to try it out.
Ayecarumba
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April 29th, 2019 at 3:47:38 PM permalink
This is very exciting. Aruze is the company behind "Shoot To Win" (a.k.a. "Bubble Craps").

I couldn't tell what the surface of the table was like. Is it a big piece of vinyl? I can imagine it getting cloudy and stained with spilled drinks, cigarette ash and oily fingers. Seems tough to reach the dice with the betting station blocking your way.

What happens if a bulb goes out or a station malfunctions? You would have a technical problem to fix that would not be a problem in the analog game. Is the trade off of not using physical chips / increased payout speed / no dealers, for betting stations / video display table areas with technical glitches / and expensive maintenance worth it?
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WatchMeWin
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April 29th, 2019 at 3:51:46 PM permalink
Very interesting. I have no problem with the non use of chips and using the electronic betting system, however I need to know that the dice are thrown with complete randomness and no possible way for magnetic chips to intervene with the normal land of the dice. What is the material of the table? It looks like glass. Did the dice look to land normally with normal spin after landing?

They are doing away with humans in the workplace EVERYWHERE! Become a welder, masseuse or hair stylist... these jobs cannot be replaced by robots effectively. ha
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SiegfriedRoy
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April 29th, 2019 at 4:03:41 PM permalink
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-K5qEl5YwE

I found a better video with better sound. When the guy is throwing the dice and it hits the screen, it sounds like it's just a typical screen glass. I can be wrong. Also, once the die land, the stick has to input it manually.
SkittleCar1
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April 29th, 2019 at 4:15:12 PM permalink
The cheques clicking and getting tossed is half the excitement for me. No thanks.
mrsuit31
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April 29th, 2019 at 4:33:56 PM permalink
I believe it is a screen (glass or hard plastic) surface.

I believe they launched this product at G2E and I think it is being installed (or has been installed) in a few test locations.

Iím interested to see how it works out for them and the developer of the IP. The Omnitable (same concept but for table games) is the flagship product from the developer IIRC. However, that product was an LCD screen that has felt on top making it feel like a standard felt table.

I have never seen either in person, only online via promo videos and LinkedIn posts.
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Ayecarumba
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April 29th, 2019 at 4:52:43 PM permalink
Quote: SiegfriedRoy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-K5qEl5YwE

I found a better video with better sound. When the guy is throwing the dice and it hits the screen, it sounds like it's just a typical screen glass. I can be wrong. Also, once the die land, the stick has to input it manually.



If it's glass, aren't they open to mechanics who can use the smooth, consistent surface slide or toss the dice in a manner that makes the outcomes predictable? Also, the dice corners or edges could chip or crack; or even crack the glass. I've seen the mirrors on craps tables suffer that fate from even indirect hits.
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mrsuit31
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April 29th, 2019 at 5:10:33 PM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

If it's glass, aren't they open to mechanics who can use the smooth, consistent surface slide or toss the dice in a manner that makes the outcomes predictable? Also, the dice corners or edges could chip or crack; or even crack the glass. I've seen the mirrors on craps tables suffer that fate from even indirect hits.



Iím sure that has been addressed with the material the screen is made from....

Dice sliding, If the staff lets that go, it isnít on them...
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SM777
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April 29th, 2019 at 5:15:58 PM permalink
This is a big time failure in the USA, better served for other markets.

The electronic table the ShuffleMaster has never took off in the USA.
mrsuit31
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April 29th, 2019 at 5:38:21 PM permalink
Quote: SM777

This is a big time failure in the USA, better served for other markets.

The electronic table the ShuffleMaster has never took off in the USA.



Craps player want to toss chips and call bets etc....
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