Repeater vs. ATS vs. Fire

I was looking around the forum for the odds comparing the different bonus bets (which is the best bonus bet?) and I wasn't able to locate a comparison between the repeater bets and the ATS. For example broken down to the Tall vs. hitting a repeater bet 9 (rolling a 9 five times before a 7 out).. Basically which would have better odds -- For example the repeater 9 vs. hitting the Tall or the small? Is anyone up for figuring all the different combos of repeater numbers 2,3,4, 5,6,9,10,11,12 vs. hitting a small or tall or and make em all. Also, is it correct that the odds of hitting a 5 or 6 point fire bet would be the worst of all the bonus bets? If someone has already run the comparisons of all the different combinations & odds of these bonus bets please send the forum link, Thanks wizards!

I seem to recall that having been done, perhaps WOO but I think it was WOV.

Best advice ever about sucker bets was the dealer who told a man who was hesitant to follow his wife's advice "It is a sucker bet but it can hit and if you do not bet it and it does hit you will never hear the end of it."

not sure what you mean by "repeater" but check this out

https://wizardofodds.com/games/craps/appendix/5/

If you can find full pay ATS, that’s the best bet

Repeater is pretty fun. I did well on it the one time I played it. No math to offer, though, sorry.

It has to be a pain to track for the crew, though. They have little discs, smaller than a dime, they use to mark each throw. They have to remember to mark every throw. And each number pays individually or in a group, kind of like roulette, but each number has different odds and different numbers of hits, so they have to pay off weird amounts.

Idk if it will catch on because of the workload, but I like the bet.

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Repeater is pretty fun. I did well on it the one time I played it. No math to offer, though, sorry
Idk if it will catch on because of the workload, but I like the bet.

The Repeater, Fire Bet and new pay table ATS are all around 20% against you. Still like the bet???
I’m thinking the bean counters really like the bet!

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... check this out

https://wizardofodds.com/games/craps/appendix/5/

finally looked at this myself and Repeater is in there, HE = nosebleed level

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Repeater


Repeater is a set of craps side bets I noticed at the Suncoast casino in Las Vegas on April 6, 2015. The idea is that the player must roll a given number a specified number of times before a seven. For bets on 2 to 6, the player must roll that total the same number of times as the total itself. For example, for the bet on the number five to win, the shooter must roll 5 fives before a seven. For totals of 8 to 12, the player must roll the total 14 less whatever the total is. For example, on a total of 11, the player must roll an eleven 14-11=3 times before a seven.

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The Repeater, Fire Bet and new pay table ATS are all around 20% against you. Still like the bet???
I’m thinking the bean counters really like the bet!

I'm sure the bean counters love it.

It's very fun to play. I've only done it once.

I was on the good side of variance, and made about $250 on it in about an hour, betting all the numbers.

So, for entertainment, I like it a lot.

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I was looking around the forum for the odds comparing the different bonus bets (which is the best bonus bet?) and I wasn't able to locate a comparison between the repeater bets and the ATS.

define "the BEST bonus bet"

Quote: VegasHardway

For example broken down to the Tall vs. hitting a repeater bet 9 (rolling a 9 five times before a 7 out).. Basically which would have better odds -- For example the repeater 9 vs. hitting the Tall or the small?

small or tall 1 chance in 37.94503
(ALL is 1 chance in 190.1971)

(rolling a 9 five times before a 7 out) is this the rule you understand?

it is totally against the company website
https://www.sggaming.com/Games/Shuffle-Master/Table-Games/Craps-Side-Bets/Repeater-Bets-18058
that says this
"Repeater Bets win if the number wagered is rolled a predetermined number of times (sequentially or not), and lose if seven is rolled. "
rolling a 9 five times before a 7 is just
a=4/10;
a^5 = 32/3125 = 1 chance in 97.65625

why do you not seem to care what each winning bet pays?
or do you care?

such an interesting type question if you do not care about the house edge of each bet.

It's a fun bonus bet when you can put a buck on each of the ten possible
repeaters (2,3,4,5,6,8,9,10,11,12) or just $10.

Caesars, Ballys, Paris and probably other casinos in LAS have made the
Repeater Bet require a minimum of $5 per repeater. Unfortunately,
that makes it A LOT less fun: repeated $60 gifts to a corp. that keeps
getting greedier with its odds and other player "Rewards".

I think that’s the best way to handle the labor intensive problem of $1 bets. Puts a quick stop to $37 buys, hoping to become “rich” quick. It’s so tiresome, I’ve complained to management at one casino, have been told it’s under consideration. Meanwhile Boyd and MGM have already gone to lower payouts and $5 minimum segments. This is in Biloxi.