Crazy Theory?
February 6th, 2018 at 6:38:18 AM
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Ive spoken about online craps and bubble craps being manipulated, and I believe it to be accurate so I stay away from them.. but new theory is interesting.
A guy I played craps with was telling me that he thinks there are digital influences on the casino craps table. He said the dice have something in them that can be digitally manipulated. Im not buying it.... although I always say when big money is involved, I would not count anything out... but this is a little silly. If the casinos ever got caught it would be lights out for them. Additionally, would a disgruntled ex employee of the casino or dice manufacturer eventually write a tell all book, etc. Did I mention that the guy smelled like weed... theory debunked!
A guy I played craps with was telling me that he thinks there are digital influences on the casino craps table. He said the dice have something in them that can be digitally manipulated. Im not buying it.... although I always say when big money is involved, I would not count anything out... but this is a little silly. If the casinos ever got caught it would be lights out for them. Additionally, would a disgruntled ex employee of the casino or dice manufacturer eventually write a tell all book, etc. Did I mention that the guy smelled like weed... theory debunked!
'Winners hit n run... Losers stick around'
February 6th, 2018 at 7:17:32 AM
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you are learning, Grasshopper
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!” She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
February 6th, 2018 at 7:19:11 AM
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Quote: odiousgambityou are learning, Grasshopper
Grasshopper?? Im the C-G.O.A.T!!!
'Winners hit n run... Losers stick around'
February 6th, 2018 at 11:03:03 AM
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Not true.Quote: WatchMeWinIf the casinos ever got caught it would be lights out for them.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
February 6th, 2018 at 12:00:58 PM
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To second this I know of a non-indian casino in the US (so real state regulation) that was caught short decking it's blackjack games (by removing 10's and A's) and they were simply fined and not a lot of publicity came from it. Who knows how long they were doing it...Quote: AxelWolfNot true.
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
February 6th, 2018 at 12:06:45 PM
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Does anyone here have suspicions or proof of casinos and dice manufacturers fixing dice on a regular craps table? Magnets, digital frequencies interference, etc?
'Winners hit n run... Losers stick around'
February 6th, 2018 at 12:17:09 PM
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Quote: RomesTo second this I know of a non-indian casino in the US (so real state regulation) that was caught short decking it's blackjack games (by removing 10's and A's) and they were simply fined and not a lot of publicity came from it. Who knows how long they were doing it...
What State?
February 6th, 2018 at 12:27:47 PM
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"Mid-West"Quote: gamerfreakWhat State?
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
February 6th, 2018 at 12:28:17 PM
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Quote: WatchMeWinDoes anyone here have suspicions or proof of casinos and dice manufacturers fixing dice on a regular craps table? Magnets, digital frequencies interference, etc?
Google "dice control" or "dice influencing."
Not that there's anything of value there, but it will help you to pass the time.
"What, me worry?"
February 6th, 2018 at 2:08:56 PM
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We're halfway there.Quote: WatchMeWinDoes anyone here have suspicions or proof of casinos and dice manufacturers fixing dice on a regular craps table? Magnets, digital frequencies interference, etc?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plastic_magnet
But how to generate a decent localized magnetic field at the other end of the table?
Never make a bet that you wouldn't take, yourself.
February 6th, 2018 at 2:23:19 PM
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There is a crawl space underneath all the bubble craps. Go during shift change and you will see exactly whats going on and how they work. There is a midget (not a magnet)hiding under there who shakes and pops the dice up. Sometimes it's a well-trained monkey instead.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
February 6th, 2018 at 2:37:13 PM
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Heard Souring Eagle.Quote: gamerfreakWhat State?
I am a robot.
February 6th, 2018 at 2:58:11 PM
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Quote: 1MatterToMotionWe're halfway there.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plastic_magnet
But how to generate a decent localized magnetic field at the other end of the table?
Generating a localized magnetic field that could pulse on and off at the end of a casino table would be child's play (for the casino.). Its the same technology as an electric motor.
However, the plastics with magnetic properties that are cited in the Wiki article are flexible and deformable - not appropriate properties for casino dice.
You would need to find a formulation of the plastic that would allow it to be injection molded into the die form and that would harden with heat (and/or with time, if you used a hardening agent). And, even if you accomplished that, the entire die would then have "magnetic susceptibility" -which is not what you want if you want to control which side the die will land on.
So many better men, a few of them friends, are dead. And a thousand thousand slimy things live on, and so do I.
February 6th, 2018 at 5:53:14 PM
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Quote: RomesTo second this I know of a non-indian casino in the US (so real state regulation) that was caught short decking it's blackjack games (by removing 10's and A's) and they were simply fined and not a lot of publicity came from it. Who knows how long they were doing it...
This would have definitely made some news. Do you have a link?
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I am an employee of a Casino. Former Table Games Director,, current Pit Supervisor. All the personal opinions I post are my own and do not represent the opinions of the Casino or Tribe that I work for.
February 6th, 2018 at 6:08:11 PM
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Quote: Romes"Mid-West"
Ok to narrow here....So actual Midwest geographically (like Colorado), Midwest like middle America (IA, MO), or Midwest that’s in the eastern time zone that for no reason no whatsoever people call Midwest (MI, OH, etc)?
Also, you forgot air quotes around “real state regulation.”
February 6th, 2018 at 6:09:38 PM
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Why protect them ,how about the name of the casino.
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February 6th, 2018 at 6:28:30 PM
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Magnets? At a real craps casino a Floorman will occasionally walk around the table carrying a cheap compass. If North suddenly changes position he knows that the guy in a wheel chair has a magnetic coil of some sort.
Whether they test the bubble craps from time to time I don't know but it would have to be a really powerful magnet and that means it would be a big one. Frankly, I doubt it would even work.
Whether they test the bubble craps from time to time I don't know but it would have to be a really powerful magnet and that means it would be a big one. Frankly, I doubt it would even work.
February 6th, 2018 at 6:39:37 PM
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It was a Michigan casino. In the early 2000's, if I remember. You'd have to contact the tv stations in Detroit to see if they have a record of the story.Quote: onenickelmiracleHeard Souring Eagle.
Never make a bet that you wouldn't take, yourself.
February 6th, 2018 at 7:36:44 PM
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Quote: onenickelmiracle
Heard Souring Eagle.
Quote: 1MatterToMotionIt was a Michigan casino. In the early 2000's, if I remember. You'd have to contact the tv stations in Detroit to see if they have a record of the story.
It would be nice if there was an internet page that maintained a database of all the instances in which casinos have been caught (by regulatory agencies) cheating the customers.
So many better men, a few of them friends, are dead. And a thousand thousand slimy things live on, and so do I.
February 6th, 2018 at 8:19:03 PM
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You could call it The Gaffin Book.Quote: gordonm888It would be nice if there was an internet page that maintained a database of all the instances in which casinos have been caught (by regulatory agencies) cheating the customers.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
February 7th, 2018 at 3:56:12 AM
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Quote: 1MatterToMotionIt was a Michigan casino. In the early 2000's, if I remember. You'd have to contact the tv stations in Detroit to see if they have a record of the story.
Aren't all Michigan casinos outside of Greektown, MGM, and Motor City tribal casinos?
I think MGCB only has jurisdiction over those three.
February 7th, 2018 at 7:49:04 AM
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Because I should have just named the casino but didn't want to because it's right in my neck of the woods and now I realize not a lot of people would have known that anyways, but with my hesitation to name it then I'd imagine that's not too hard to figure out. Long time members can PM me and I'll more than likely give you the name of the place. I'm all for outing cheating casinos.Quote: HunterhillWhy protect them ,how about the name of the casino.
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
February 7th, 2018 at 1:23:59 PM
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I need to get my tinfoil hat before I post in this...
You guys know before they open a dice table they test the dice for magnetism right?
But let's say they do manipulate the dice..whether it's by magnets, or mind control or using Quicksilver to change the dice faster than the dealer can see it (not The Flash, he gives off too much wind effect..Also Marvel > DC)....wouldn't you notice it?
Also, dealers/pits don't care enough to purposely manipulate the dice. If there was some crazy scheme against the players we would have to be in on it and nobody would agree to it...we want your tips...pits want your tips....happy players=happy dealers=happy pits=happy management.
You guys know before they open a dice table they test the dice for magnetism right?
But let's say they do manipulate the dice..whether it's by magnets, or mind control or using Quicksilver to change the dice faster than the dealer can see it (not The Flash, he gives off too much wind effect..Also Marvel > DC)....wouldn't you notice it?
Also, dealers/pits don't care enough to purposely manipulate the dice. If there was some crazy scheme against the players we would have to be in on it and nobody would agree to it...we want your tips...pits want your tips....happy players=happy dealers=happy pits=happy management.
