Script for WinCraps Pro
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May 17th, 2017 at 1:49:22 PM
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Trying to figure out if it is possible for a system I want to try and use or maybe someone here has done this and can tell me how bad of an idea this is. I would try this at a $5 table if I can only find $10 tables I would just double all bets.
I want to lay the 4 & 10 for $20. Then I would like to place the 5 and 9 for $5 and the 6 & 8 for $6. If my place bets hit I would take them up one unit on each subsequent hit after the first hit. If my 4 or 10 is lost I would leave it down until roll has 7 outed.
Is this something I can make a script for on WinCraps or is there another simulator out there that I could?
Has anyone tried this before and found it is ok or awful?
Thank you
I want to lay the 4 & 10 for $20. Then I would like to place the 5 and 9 for $5 and the 6 & 8 for $6. If my place bets hit I would take them up one unit on each subsequent hit after the first hit. If my 4 or 10 is lost I would leave it down until roll has 7 outed.
Is this something I can make a script for on WinCraps or is there another simulator out there that I could?
Has anyone tried this before and found it is ok or awful?
Thank you
May 17th, 2017 at 2:03:59 PM
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Like all other craps systems, I assume you already know it's a loser but the question becomes how much of a loser?
0.42% HE (per roll) on the 4/10 lays.
0.46% HE (per roll) on the 6/8 place bets
1.11% HE (per roll) on the 5/9 place bets
https://wizardofodds.com/games/craps/appendix/2/
Thus, per roll, you could expect to lose the following per your unit size:
EL($5 bets) = 10(-.0042) + 10(-.0046) + 10(-.0111) = -.042 - .046 - .112 = -$0.20... so you could expect to lose 20 cents PER ROLL with this system and a $5 unit.
EL($5 bets) = 20(-.0042) + 20(-.0046) + 20(-.0111) = -.084 - .092 - .224 = -$0.40... so you could expect to lose 40 cents PER ROLL with this system and a $10 unit.
0.42% HE (per roll) on the 4/10 lays.
0.46% HE (per roll) on the 6/8 place bets
1.11% HE (per roll) on the 5/9 place bets
https://wizardofodds.com/games/craps/appendix/2/
Thus, per roll, you could expect to lose the following per your unit size:
EL($5 bets) = 10(-.0042) + 10(-.0046) + 10(-.0111) = -.042 - .046 - .112 = -$0.20... so you could expect to lose 20 cents PER ROLL with this system and a $5 unit.
EL($5 bets) = 20(-.0042) + 20(-.0046) + 20(-.0111) = -.084 - .092 - .224 = -$0.40... so you could expect to lose 40 cents PER ROLL with this system and a $10 unit.
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
May 17th, 2017 at 2:04:24 PM
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We need a dummies book for writing programs for Win Craps! Steen: What sayest Thou?
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May 18th, 2017 at 8:51:31 AM
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okQuote: quincyI want to lay the 4 & 10 for $20.
okQuote: quincyThen I would like to place the 5 and 9 for $5 and the 6 & 8 for $6.
those place 5 and 9 really are poor bets.(by house edge of course)
I would not make them and rather bet 2 units on the 6&8 instead, imo.
after the second win does all the place bets go up 1 unit or does just the one that wins?Quote: quincyIf my place bets hit I would take them up one unit on each subsequent hit after the first hit.
I do not know if you can,Quote: quincyIs this something I can make a script for on WinCraps or is there another simulator out there that I could?
but I (eye)
have lots of these auto bet files close to this and can easily adjust it. I do
use Wincraps Classic
so I would have to convert over (easy using Pro, still have to check to make sure it works)
R all bets working on the come out roll?
each bet does not know it is a come out roll, btw
Sally
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May 18th, 2017 at 12:33:58 PM
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Yes, maybe that is better just place the 6 & 8 for $12 each and lay the 4 & 10 for $20 each.
After the 6 or 8 hits a second time press just that number by one unit and another unit every time it hits.
I would have all bets working on come out roll.
Thank you
After the 6 or 8 hits a second time press just that number by one unit and another unit every time it hits.
I would have all bets working on come out roll.
Thank you
May 19th, 2017 at 7:38:47 AM
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Quincy:
Since you stated your desire to try this out in live play, be aware that most casinos would require a
minimum $40 lay plus $1 vig on a 4 or a 10.
Since you stated your desire to try this out in live play, be aware that most casinos would require a
minimum $40 lay plus $1 vig on a 4 or a 10.
May 19th, 2017 at 9:25:31 AM
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Ok, thanks. I have never bet a lay. I thought the vig was $1 on a $20 bet.
May 19th, 2017 at 9:50:35 AM
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Lay bets on the 4&10 work like this.Quote: quincyOk, thanks. I have never bet a lay. I thought the vig was $1 on a $20 bet.
the vig is most times 5% of what you can win.
so $40 pays $20
there is the $1 vig
some places have lower minimums
not all
Sally
I have the code done in WC Classic
When . . .
Initializing Auto-Bet
or when . . .
A point is decided "against" any number
or when . . .
Last roll was a come-out roll
Any 7 has rolled each time
then . . .
Bet $ 5 on Place 5
Bet $ 5 on Place 9
Bet $ 6 on Place 6
Bet $ 6 on Place 8
Bet $ 10 on Lay 4
Bet $ 10 on Lay 10
Bet $ 0 on Chip-Stack # 5
Bet $ 0 on Chip-Stack # 6
Bet $ 0 on Chip-Stack # 8
Bet $ 0 on Chip-Stack # 9
Go to "end"
While . . .
Place 5 has won each time
then . . .
Add $ 1 to Chip-Stack # 5
While . . .
Place 5 has won each time
Chip-Stack # 5 is greater than $ 1
then . . .
Add $ 5 to Place 5
Go to "end"
While . . .
Place 6 has won each time
then . . .
Add $ 1 to Chip-Stack # 6
While . . .
Place 6 has won each time
Chip-Stack # 6 is greater than $ 1
then . . .
Add $ 6 to Place 6
Go to "end"
While . . .
Place 8 has won each time
then . . .
Add $ 1 to Chip-Stack # 8
While . . .
Place 8 has won each time
Chip-Stack # 8 is greater than $ 1
then . . .
Add $ 6 to Place 8
Go to "end"
While . . .
Place 9 has won each time
then . . .
Add $ 1 to Chip-Stack # 9
While . . .
Place 9 has won each time
Chip-Stack # 9 is greater than $ 1
then . . .
Add $ 5 to Place 9
end
will convert to pro later
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May 19th, 2017 at 12:02:28 PM
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Hi Sally! Welcome back. Long time no hear.
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May 20th, 2017 at 4:35:40 AM
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Quote: DeMangoWe need a dummies book for writing programs for Win Craps! Steen: What sayest Thou?
Well, I wrote quite an extensive help file and have many dozens of free scripts as well as a FAQ on my web site. Plus I stop by here from time to time :-)
However, I have toyed with the idea of doing some videos to show how to do things. What do you think?
Steen
May 20th, 2017 at 6:36:03 AM
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Quote: SteenWell, I wrote quite an extensive help file and have many dozens of free scripts as well as a FAQ on my web site. Plus I stop by here from time to time :-)
However, I have toyed with the idea of doing some videos to show how to do things. What do you think?
Steen
Oh my lord, Steen, if you're willing to do video there would be several people who would find that invaluable, I'm sure. Can't encourage you enough. You might even PM Zuga and see if he would pay for that content on WoO or here. You never know...
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
May 20th, 2017 at 9:25:56 AM
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Here is what I have for WC Pro
seems to be working fine
just remember many settings can be set
on the Auto-Play page in the code.
I do not use that as I use Classic most times.
so set bet as same after win
place bets working on the come out roll
auto correction
just get to know the little ins and outs
have fun
Sally
seems to be working fine
just remember many settings can be set
on the Auto-Play page in the code.
I do not use that as I use Classic most times.
so set bet as same after win
place bets working on the come out roll
auto correction
just get to know the little ins and outs
have fun
Sally
If
Initializing script
Or
A point is decided AGAINST any(4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10)
Or
Last roll was a comeout roll And
dice total = 7
Then
Bet $5 on Place5 :
Bet $5 on Place9 :
Bet $6 on Place6 :
Bet $6 on Place8 :
Bet $10 on Lay4 :
Bet $10 on Lay10 :
Bet $0 on CheckStack5 :
Bet $0 on CheckStack6 :
Bet $0 on CheckStack8 :
Bet $0 on CheckStack9 :
GoTo "end"
EndIf
If
Place5 wins
Then
Add $1 to CheckStack5
EndIf
If
Place5 wins And
CheckStack5 is greater than $1
Then
Add $5 to Place5 :
GoTo "end"
EndIf
If
Place6 wins
Then
Add $1 to CheckStack6
EndIf
If
Place6 wins And
CheckStack6 is greater than $1
Then
Add $6 to Place6 :
GoTo "end"
EndIf
If
Place8 wins
Then
Add $1 to CheckStack8
EndIf
If
Place8 wins And
CheckStack8 is greater than $1
Then
Add $6 to Place8 :
GoTo "end"
EndIf
If
Place9 wins
Then
Add $1 to CheckStack9
EndIf
If
Place9 wins And
CheckStack9 is greater than $1
Then
Add $5 to Place9
EndIf
: "end" :
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