Laymedown
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March 25th, 2018 at 6:18:12 PM permalink
Define consistently?

I start my day at the craps table with $1000 and in most cases can play more than 8 hrs Win/Lose of course.
but my lay strategy wins 6:1 if a seven gets rolled but its one time bet unless repeater sevens occur on come out.

Pretty consistent.
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Laymedown
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March 28th, 2018 at 12:51:04 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

I play at Seneca Niagara in Niagara Falls USA. I play craps maybe once a year, usually because whoever I'm going with wants to play craps. When I play I play pass line with some odds and lots of come bets with odds, and occasionally bet on 6 and 8. So I will tend to lose but have a decent chance of getting lucky and win. But I do not expect to win when I play craps. When I play my favorite game at Seneca Niagara (they don't have Tiles), there are some times due to weak dealers I have an advantage, like definitely yesterday, but most days I just play against the 1-2% house edge, and hope to win (luck) but will more likely lose.
And you are correct, it doesn't matter whether anyone believes you or not. I am just telling you that no one here believes you have found some magic system that will reliably beat craps. No matter how many times you type it. No matter how many different ways you say it.

Just out of curiosity, your system was working last night so that you made $500. Why weren't you betting double so you could have made $1000?
After making $500, why didn't you just start over and make another $500?



Question? If someone can make 500/day playing at the casino and winning consistently, why risk your winning to win more. I could see letting it all ride at a vegas casino but if you're winning consistently, why not just make a comfortable living for yourself with the smaller wins?
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Zcore13
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March 28th, 2018 at 1:59:28 AM permalink
Quote: Laymedown

Question? If someone can make 500/day playing at the casino and winning consistently, why risk your winning to win more. I could see letting it all ride at a vegas casino but if you're winning consistently, why not just make a comfortable living for yourself with the smaller wins?



Unless someone is a good card counter or taking advantage of dealers exposing cards in carnival games, they can't win $500 A day consistently. It doesn't happen. Nobody does it. End of story.


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Laymedown
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March 28th, 2018 at 9:32:14 AM permalink
Don't kid yourself, we are talking casino's here where there are many types of bettors, whales, low key, conservative, aggressive, etc.
instead of saying $500/day you should calculate what the casino's average take is then factor in the potential professional gamblers in the building average take home win.

For example: if 500 was the magic number and the casino's daily take was 1,000,000 per day then there only needs to be 2000 winners to break that casino or if you were to break down the daily amount in to per hour, the casino would make $41,667.00/hr

500/day is equal to 20.00 per hr per person if calculated on a 24hr pay roll multiplied by 2000 people to break the casino or just one Whale betting large amounts.

I know regulars at the casino making more than 300/hr now with no limitations. 500/day is nothing to the casino making 41k per hour.
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March 28th, 2018 at 10:52:25 AM permalink
Quote: Laymedown

Question? If someone can make 500/day playing at the casino and winning consistently, why risk your winning to win more. I could see letting it all ride at a vegas casino but if you're winning consistently, why not just make a comfortable living for yourself with the smaller wins?



What technique works consistently when trying to win $500 a day, but fails when trying to win $600 a day? Think about it.....

There may be ways to consistently win in a casino, but craps is not one of them.......
WatchMeWin
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March 28th, 2018 at 11:39:51 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO


There may be ways to consistently win in a casino, but craps is not one of them.......



..... perhaps for 99% of the ones playing it.
'Winners hit n run... Losers stick around'
Laymedown
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March 28th, 2018 at 11:55:41 AM permalink
What I find fails is the most is min betting. That's the bread and butter for the casino.
Even system players using some sort of reverse betting strategies start off with a minimum bet.

Experience it for yourself at the tables. Go to a $5.00 minimum table and watch 99% of them lose their chips in just a short time.

I still bet the same amount at a $5.00 or even a $25 table. I can not confidently say my way of betting is consistent but I do see $500 days and also $1000.00 days from just a simple LAY ALL NUMBERS ON COME OUT THEN TAKE THEM DOWN system.

But I factor in that every shooter 100% of the time want to roll a seven on come out roll.
I also factor in an expectation to lose at least one of my bets 85% of the time
I also customize my lay bets by not laying all the numbers utilizing the trends of the shooters past history.
If I see a Dice setter rolling a bunch of 6,8's I will lay only the outside numbers.
I also try to keep a visual on what numbers come out with the dice set used. In most cases the all seven set is the dice set I am mostly familiar with for the come out roll.
Anything else I can add to the table gives me nothing but a better edge.
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Zcore13
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March 28th, 2018 at 12:08:33 PM permalink
Quote: Laymedown

What I find fails is the most is min betting. That's the bread and butter for the casino. even system players using some sort of reverse betting technique starts off with the minimum bet.

Experience it for yourself at the tables. Go to a $5.00 minimum table and watch 99% of them lose their chips in just a short time.

I still bet the same amount at a $5.00 or even a $25 table. I can not confidently say my way of betting is consistent but I do see $500 days and also $1000.00 days from just a simple LAY ALL NUMBERS ON COME OUT THEN TAKE THEM DOWN system.

But I factor in that every shooter 100% of the time want to roll a seven on come out roll.
I also factor in an expectation to lose at least one of my bets 85% of the time
I also customize my lay bets by not laying all the numbers utilizing the trends of the shooters past history.
If I see a Dice setter rolling a bunch of 6,8's I will lay only the outside numbers.
I also try to keep a visual on what numbers come out with the dice set used. In most cases the all seven set is the dice set I am mostly familiar with for the come out roll.
Anything else I can add to the table gives me nothing but a better edge.



Nothing you do give you a better edge other than making wagers that are a lower hold percentage. And nobody is making $500, $600, $700, $800, $900, or any other number you want to list, playing craps on a regular basis.


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ZenKinG
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March 28th, 2018 at 12:10:17 PM permalink
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..... perhaps for 99% of the ones playing it.



Please inform us of how much you're winning then and how many hours you logged at the craps table. Then people will take you seriously. Until then, you're one of 2 options. You're a casino shill or you're a troll.
Any private business open to the PUBLIC (ie. droned out casinos) cannot have a criminal trespass enforced against an individual without GOOD CAUSE (Disruptive or Disorderly conduct). You will never go to prison for being thrown out of a casino for legal advantage play and then returning because it's simply unconstitutional 'as applied' to the individual. 'As applied' constitutional issues must FIRST be raised in DISTRICT COURT (trial court) to have it thrown out. You CANNOT raise it on APPEAL This is the best kept secret in the world of casinos not just in Vegas but everywhere in the country. Thank me later.
ZenKinG
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March 28th, 2018 at 12:12:58 PM permalink
Quote: Laymedown

Question? If someone can make 500/day playing at the casino and winning consistently, why risk your winning to win more. I could see letting it all ride at a vegas casino but if you're winning consistently, why not just make a comfortable living for yourself with the smaller wins?



Is this post for real? How can someone be this uneducated about 'gambling'. Comfortable living off craps? Basing your results off short term variance? No wonder they build casinos. Geez.
Any private business open to the PUBLIC (ie. droned out casinos) cannot have a criminal trespass enforced against an individual without GOOD CAUSE (Disruptive or Disorderly conduct). You will never go to prison for being thrown out of a casino for legal advantage play and then returning because it's simply unconstitutional 'as applied' to the individual. 'As applied' constitutional issues must FIRST be raised in DISTRICT COURT (trial court) to have it thrown out. You CANNOT raise it on APPEAL This is the best kept secret in the world of casinos not just in Vegas but everywhere in the country. Thank me later.

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