WahooLowRoller
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February 16th, 2016 at 6:00:44 PM permalink
I voted in the poll and read as many of the comments as my limited attention span would allow, so I'm not asking for opinions regarding whether or when to tip. Assume for the sake of this thread that one is going to tip and the dealers are friendly and capable, regardless of whether players are winning or losing.

My question relates to how to tip. I had understood dealers appreciate a player making a bet as a tip and assumed they understand the inescapable math of craps better than most players, so making a "smart" bet (i.e., with a low house edge) would be preferable. In other words, I tend to tip an occasional bet that is the same as my typical bet (Pass/Come). That way, I feel the dealers are "with" me. Maybe that's nuts.

Anyway, does such a bet have to be the table minimum? Also, at the risk of re-opening the discussion about tipping when winning, I admit I tend to tip more generously when I can afford to. Would dealers expect a simple Pass/Come w/odds bettor like me to put odds on their tip?
RS
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February 16th, 2016 at 6:58:20 PM permalink
You can tip $1 bets. If the game has quarters (i.e.: jokers wild) you can bet $0.25 chips...but preferably more!

Best to tip alongside your bet, on the pass (or don't pass) line. Odds are also appreciated, but not something you have to do.
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Ibeatyouraces
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February 16th, 2016 at 7:08:13 PM permalink
Quote: RS

You can tip $1 bets. If the game has quarters (i.e.: jokers wild) you can bet $0.25 chips...but preferably more!


That a hint that that's where you work?
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DJTeddyBear
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February 16th, 2016 at 8:08:47 PM permalink
Some casinos will require the toke bet to be the minimum, but only if you make a toke bet that you're not also making for yourself - a very rare situation. So, if you bet next to your own bet, they combine it so you already have met the minimum. They'll just divvy up the winnings.

A dealer will never tell you they prefer the low edge pass line toke rather than a hard way toke. To do so is like telling you you're dumb for making the high edge bet for your own bets.

The only exception is the preference for place bet tokes in Atlantic City. Here's why:
http://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/tables/9306-best-dealer-toke-craps-place-1-on-5-6-8-and-9-pays-2-and-piggyback-it/

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Note: Jokers Wild no longer has 25¢ chips.
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HornHighYo11
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February 16th, 2016 at 8:31:24 PM permalink
i believe dealers appreciate tips directly to the "boys" or "crew" via the boxman since the house gets no vig on it. But for some reason it does seem awkward to just give a tip outside of coloring up so it kind of adds to the game when you put a $1 beside your bet and say: "Dealer on the line". I have read about "capping" or "riding along" with the dollar sitting half on top of the pass line bet, but got the impression it was frowned upon.
Or put up some hard way bet(s) and throw a dollar(s) for "Hard way, Dealer's choice".
I have never put odds with a tip bet.
Joeman
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February 16th, 2016 at 8:45:35 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

A dealer will never tell you they prefer the low edge pass line toke rather than a hard way toke. To do so is like telling you you're dumb for making the high edge bet for your own bets.

Back when it was the Horseshoe downtown, maybe late 90's or early 2000's, I was playing and made a hardway bet for the dealers. My base dealer said that he'd rather have his toke bet on the line. Before that, I had never noticed anyone making a line bet for the dealers, and had always made dealer bets in the center of the table, like everyone else.

So, I had him pull the bet down and put it on the line. Made perfect sense to me. Also, back then, it was a "go for your own tips" joint, and I came to the realization that "go for your own" dealers have a more vested interest in having their tokes on better paying bets than "pooled tip" dealers.

I haven't seen a dealer make this type of suggestion since. I don't think I have played at a "go for your own" table since, either.
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Joeman
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February 16th, 2016 at 8:50:45 PM permalink
Quote: HornHighYo11

I have never put odds with a tip bet.

If it is an exceptional dealer, or an exceptional roll, I'll occasionally give the dealers "shoes."

Last month when I was in Biloxi, I made a line bet for the dealers on a come-out during a hot roll. When the point was made, the guy next to me handed me a few chips to make an odds bet behind my toke bet. That was a first for me, but I obliged him.
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HornHighYo11
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February 16th, 2016 at 9:39:04 PM permalink
"shoes" that's cool.

Was at a really hot table my first visit to vegas; at the Venetian. Guy next to me was making a fortune on the 9. Table was getting rowdy around 3 am and lots of "party drunks" were hanging on the rail. The dealers had to call out several times "no swearing, please" So this guy on the 9 started throwing $5 chips at the box, yelling "swear jar!" after inevitable "F###'n 7!" Security actually dragged a young girl away (drunk and not really playing) for swearing and tipping her cigarette ashes into the dice tray one too many times. It was quite the show.
RS
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February 16th, 2016 at 10:51:53 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Some casinos will require the toke bet to be the minimum, but only if you make a toke bet that you're not also making for yourself - a very rare situation. So, if you bet next to your own bet, they combine it so you already have met the minimum. They'll just divvy up the winnings.

A dealer will never tell you they prefer the low edge pass line toke rather than a hard way toke. To do so is like telling you you're dumb for making the high edge bet for your own bets.

The only exception is the preference for place bet tokes in Atlantic City. Here's why:
http://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/tables/9306-best-dealer-toke-craps-place-1-on-5-6-8-and-9-pays-2-and-piggyback-it/

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Note: Jokers Wild no longer has 25¢ chips.



They used to have 25c chips. Then they took them away approximately 2 years ago. Then they came back, probably 6 months later or even a year.

Are you saying they took them out again?
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ahiromu
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February 17th, 2016 at 5:27:53 AM permalink
$5 and single odds or $1 and max odds. I, personally, would feel tacky giving them a $1 pass line bet without odds on a $10 table.
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