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darkoz
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January 27th, 2016 at 4:50:51 AM permalink
Well, I mentioned this where it came up in another thread but repeating it here might make some sense.

Someone (Sabre, actually) stated the odds of finding a computer glitch in a casino that could result in a $100K pay-day were greater than the odds of seeing 18 yo's in a row.

I don't know how anyone could measure that mathematically, and we are obviously looking a human error situation, but if it is measurable, I imagine based on knowledge of the entire vetting process of the gaming world, is this true?

Is it a greater likelihood of seeing 18 yo's thrown in a row than finding a computer glitch worth $100K in a day inside a casino?

And yes, I'm getting at the fact that at least this can be demonstrably seen as having been achieved. And if the odds are greater than seeing 18 yo;s, then everyone on here will have to admit it is possible Alan saw it.
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January 27th, 2016 at 4:55:53 AM permalink
I think you are off with how frequently the glitches happen- - strictly based on the few that were in the news I would say it has already happened more frequently then the 18 yos so not really sure how you can even make that statement-
Going off what THE WIZARD. Said about all the craps tables going for the length of the sun yadda yadda yadda.
Two come to mind instantly with the aqueduct issue and the video poker double up- so sabre is not even close in his assessment because those two occurred just in the last five years alone. I'm sure other members clearly know this estimate is not close to accurate ..... Sorry sabre
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January 27th, 2016 at 5:37:58 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Well, I mentioned this where it came up in another thread but repeating it here might make some sense.

Someone (Sabre, actually) stated the odds of finding a computer glitch in a casino that could result in a $100K pay-day were greater than the odds of seeing 18 yo's in a row.

I don't know how anyone could measure that mathematically, and we are obviously looking a human error situation, but if it is measurable, I imagine based on knowledge of the entire vetting process of the gaming world, is this true?

Is it a greater likelihood of seeing 18 yo's thrown in a row than finding a computer glitch worth $100K in a day inside a casino?

And yes, I'm getting at the fact that at least this can be demonstrably seen as having been achieved. And if the odds are greater than seeing 18 yo;s, then everyone on here will have to admit it is possible Alan saw it.

It's not just a computer glitch he also said promotions.

It's not even close to compare the two.
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darkoz
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January 27th, 2016 at 7:24:00 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

It's not just a computer glitch he also said promotions.

It's not even close to compare the two.



Yes, I was thinking that too.

Promotions should not be included because those can easily come from a marketing department that doesn't understand the math, properly vets the outcome or calculates for team play.

But computer glitches are something different. Slots and E-games go through rigorous testing, development, mathematical calculations and then independent testing with labs usually (from what I understand) on a state by state basis, then followed by test runs in casinos.

So, with that in mind, the chances of finding such a glitch that escaped all that should be astronomical. And yet, we know that has happened.
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January 27th, 2016 at 7:38:23 AM permalink
It can be astronomical but it's happened wayyyyyy more then 18 yos in a row and to boot one is usually based on human error and one is based true odds so it's. It the same thing
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January 27th, 2016 at 7:42:04 AM permalink
I think the latter is based on human error too. Faulty memory.
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January 27th, 2016 at 7:42:50 AM permalink
I would not say it's astronomical.... Have you ever read through the code of a large program, or tested a program for errors or bugs? It's not simple, especially if you're looking at very many lines of code. To follow the logic in the program can be difficult to do. Programmers write comments to explain sections of the code. It's easy to read the comment, read through the code, then think, "Yeah, the code does what the comment says. Next!" But, it can be very difficult to read a segment of code and know EXACTLY what's going on.

Bugs and glitches are found ALL THE TIME in programs you buy, websites online, the OS on your computer or iPhone, etc. And (almost) all those programs have gone through intensive testing looking for bugs & glitches. Are the odds astronomical that there exist glitches in a Microsoft Windows product?


Better yet -- what's this have to do with throwing 18 yos in a row? Come on, let's be real for a sec. Look at the math, try to understand the math, look at the odds of it happening! Next you're gonna tell me someone hit the megabucks jackpot on 3 consecutive spins!
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January 27th, 2016 at 7:55:54 AM permalink
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...Next you're gonna tell me someone hit the megabucks jackpot on 3 consecutive spins!


I was playing blackjack on the Northern Belle back in the late 90's when a guy hit the top jackpot on a 50¢ Silver & Gold slot machine ($2000).



Back then after they paid you, they made you spin off the jackpot. When he did, he hit the same $2000 jackpot again. It was memorable because the machine was loud and it took forever for the attendant to pay him the first time.
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January 27th, 2016 at 8:34:32 AM permalink
I agree rs- Glitches are not even remotely related to throwing 18yos. So much more human error goes into glitches- sabre quantifying it with odds that are not even remotely close to the same - it's apples to oranges
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January 27th, 2016 at 9:19:47 AM permalink
Prediction: Sometime down the road Alan is going to say something to the effect of the guy didn't throw 18 yo's in a row (consecutively, back-to-back), but something else....."every time it was his turn to shoot the dice, over the course of his many rolls, he threw at least one yo, and he had 18 such hands in a row where at least one yo was rolled." And then the 'mathletes' will be ridiculed by Alan & his lackeys because it was a simple "word problem" not a "math problem" that mathletes can't seem to grasp....or something along those lines.

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