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brettecantwell
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September 8th, 2015 at 3:03:04 PM permalink
This past weekend we got to a casino that offered craps so me and my wife played it for the first time. Was a pretty fun game. One thing i picked up on is some players seem to not want you to buy in in the middle of a point, and to wait for the come-out roll. I saw a few players at other tables buy in with a point established so i am assuming you can buy in any time the dice are in the middle. I am not sure i experienced a good sample size of craps players but there were a few who seemed to really freak out over it.

The first time i walked up to the table the guy throwing the dice spoke up and demanded i don't buy in yet claiming if i did i would give him the "kiss of death" o_O. He then proceeded to seven-out ;)
I have no issue appeasing superstitious players and buying in before a come-out roll if the wait isn't too long.... but I wanted to get the opinions of people who play the game a lot. If people will scold me for buying in, id assume just wait...
DJTeddyBear
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slackyhacky
September 8th, 2015 at 3:22:31 PM permalink
You'll not find a more superstitious group than the people gathered around a craps table. They'll find, and hold as a truism, any 'reason' for all bad events. But they'll never chalk it up to math.

Yeah, people will freak out if you buy in during a roll. They may cite 'etiquette', but it's really superstitions.

Buy in, and the shooter sevens out? Your fault.
Buy in, and the shooter does not seven out? Fine.
Buy in, and the shooter hits his point? Shooter dodged a bullet - but you will not get credit.

Here's a couple good threads with more info:

http://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/craps/9974-craps-etiquette/
http://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/craps/13026-craps-etiquette-questions/
Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? Note that the same could be said for Religion. I.E. Religion is nothing more than organized superstition.
DeMango
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September 8th, 2015 at 4:11:41 PM permalink
It's not rocket science. After a made point or a seven out. In the middle of a hot roll, buy some chips from another player. Best to open up your own table!
betwthelines
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September 8th, 2015 at 5:14:03 PM permalink
Quote: DeMango

It's not rocket science. After a made point or a seven out. In the middle of a hot roll, buy some chips from another player. Best to open up your own table!


one certainly needs to be tolerant of superstitions if you want to be comfortable at a craps table...i am tolerant of them all ---except for this one!, this one you have brought up...i dont like it...i think it is a shit superstition and i for one do not abide by it...NOW HAVING SAID THAT, i do think there is something to the "etiquette" part of it...that part, i think, is understandable...i think i "get" that part...NOTWITHSTANDING i choose poor etiquette in this one case (while fancying myself of good manners in general :) ...

what if, in fact we ARE in the "middle of a hot roll" -or- even the beginning of a hot roll!? am i supposed to miss out on that because of your idiotic superstition? or because i am Mr Manners? Nope, sorry...this is the one exception to my impeccable good etiquette!

but FURTHERMORE, unlike demango here, if i only knew WHENever we were in "the middle of a hot roll"------or for that matter if i only knew whenever we were in "MIDDLE" of ANY roll, i wouldn't be sitting here typing about it on some craps board but rather would be sipping mai tai's or absoluts & grapefruit juice or 20 year old cabernets on my own private island 4, 5, 6 months outta the year and at craps rails all over the world accumulating my $billions the other months...

tom "home runs are sometimes boring" p
"You can't EXPECT to win. But you CAN play Tough"...tom p, 1974
DeMango
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September 8th, 2015 at 7:44:21 PM permalink
So many words, so little said.
BlueEagle
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September 8th, 2015 at 8:26:11 PM permalink
Many craps players are very superstitious when they are at the craps table. We all know that a 7 can come at any time because it is the number most likely to be rolled. However, it is easier to remember when a 7 comes right after:
  • the shooter has to wait for someone to buy in
  • the shooter has to wait while the bank is being filled
  • the boxman is counting money or chips while dice are rolled
  • someone puts their hand(s) across the rail while dice are rolled
  • someone makes a late bet
  • the dice hit chips
  • the dice bounce off the table
  • craps has been rolled twice in a row
  • someone at the table says seven


In other words, if anything happens between rolls other than the normal bets and winning payments while the dice are in the middle, that is what will be remembered as the cause of the seven out.
DeMango
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September 9th, 2015 at 12:22:26 AM permalink
Don't forget the Tray Lizard!
RS
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September 9th, 2015 at 12:32:32 AM permalink
Buy in whenever you want to.


Most craps players are extremely annoying. The few who aren't a**holes won't care when you buy in.


IMO, best way to buy-in is to wait until the dice have just left the middle, about to get pushed out to the shooter. Throw down some amount of money and say, "Lay the point for $XXX". Of course, you gotta wait until a point is established before you buy in. But....that's just me. :)
"should of played 'Go Fish' today ya peasant" -typoontrav
DeMango
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September 9th, 2015 at 2:34:33 AM permalink
Pot Kettle Black ^^!
odiousgambit
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September 9th, 2015 at 3:57:08 AM permalink
I generally wait anymore till the puck is off. But if there are players making so many screwy bets that it takes the other dealers a while to sort it out, while the dealer close to me is not so busy, then I will buy in then.
"Baccarat is a game whereby the croupier gathers in money with a flexible sculling oar, then rakes it home. If I could have borrowed his oar I would have stayed." .......... Mark Twain

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